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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 130, Issue 1

by Aljerin Butler,Jr.

Re: Spreading GNU/Linux to the masses Hi James, If you are concerned about your knowledge in Linux, I have just the resource for you so that you can get up to speed. I've been working on my website for years and try to cover all the bases on Open Source. You can get started with my section for newbies. When you feel a little more ambitious, hang out in my Help for Do-It-Yourselfers - I just finished a major expansion on Linux system administration you can also find there. Al Butler Custom Desktop Solutions http://customlinux.tripod.com/ Custom Desktop Solutions Custom Desktop Solutions home page View on customlinux.tripod.com Preview by Yahoo On Monday, August 4, 2014 12:00 PM, "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org" <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > > >----- Forwarded Message ----- > >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Spreading GNU/Linux to the masses (Frank Sweetser) > 2. Re: Spreading GNU/Linux to the masses (James Gray) > >Hi James, > > have no fear - the WLUG meetings are intentionally inclusive of users of >all levels, all the way out to people who have only heard of linux and are >curious to know more. While the meeting topics occasionally delve into deeper >technical topics, they're always done with the less experienced users in mind, >plus everyone is always welcome to throw out requests for meeting topics. > >Don't worry about keeping up - all are welcome! > >Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that >Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. >Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > >On 8/2/2014 4:13 PM, James Barclay wrote: >> I haven't been to one of the meetings at WPI as of yet even though I only live >> near Elm Park (Looks really nice now, eh?) and here is why: >> >> I'm afraid I'll be attending an engineering and science meeting where things >> like servers will be discussed. And algorithms will be presented and >> displayed for discussion; I'm just not that good. I'm just not at the Knuth >> level at all and nowhere near someone like Stallman or Raymond. Who is? >> >> I'm what they call an "amateur Linux user and experimenter" and not an >> engineer of scientist. I can program in various popular languages and use >> emacs as editor. I can tailor my distro to do what I need and want, but I'm >> not one to gin up my own Linux. I've even messed with BeOS. I want to spread >> the word and maybe even host a Linux class and host an installation party- at >> the WPL(?). I wonder if someone can sponsor St. IGNUcious (Stallman) seminar. >> >> I'd sure like Bruce Perens to do one, but I'm for FS. Running Netrunner 14 >> (Kubuntu base) and just love it. Its a GNU/Linux. I want GNU/Linux to be THE >> home user's OS. >> >> I have been studying security and vulnerabilities so I don't have Facebook, >> Twitter or use too many browsers that spy and track. My new email is from >> Google (Ok OK, I know), but at least Google's server is a Linux. I also use >> Midori. >> >> I don't use anything Microsoft unless its on the WINE lists. I know nothing >> about Apple and can't afford it. >> >> I built my own 32bit rig and have built three others and altered more. I dig >> hardware and junk piles. >> >> I'm also disabled, so I live only on Soc. Sec. retirement. I do have a good car. >> >> Please advise me if I am appropriate for our WLUG. >> >> Thanks for the read. >> >> Jim Barclay > > > >I think you'll fit right in. I'll try not to spout out any algorithms, but no promises, OK :) Seriously, I don't think we're a very intimidating group. Just come prepared to not know everything and be willing to ask questions. > >On Aug 4, 2014 12:36 AM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > >>Hi James, >> >> have no fear - the WLUG meetings are intentionally inclusive of users of >>all levels, all the way out to people who have only heard of linux and are >>curious to know more. While the meeting topics occasionally delve into deeper >>technical topics, they're always done with the less experienced users in mind, >>plus everyone is always welcome to throw out requests for meeting topics. >> >>Don't worry about keeping up - all are welcome! >> >>Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that >>Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. >>Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken >> >>On 8/2/2014 4:13 PM, James Barclay wrote: >>> I haven't been to one of the meetings at WPI as of yet even though I only live >>> near Elm Park (Looks really nice now, eh?) and here is why: >>> >>> I'm afraid I'll be attending an engineering and science meeting where things >>> like servers will be discussed. And algorithms will be presented and >>> displayed for discussion; I'm just not that good. I'm just not at the Knuth >>> level at all and nowhere near someone like Stallman or Raymond. Who is? >>> >>> I'm what they call an "amateur Linux user and experimenter" and not an >>> engineer of scientist. I can program in various popular languages and use >>> emacs as editor. I can tailor my distro to do what I need and want, but I'm >>> not one to gin up my own Linux. I've even messed with BeOS. I want to spread >>> the word and maybe even host a Linux class and host an installation party- at >>> the WPL(?). I wonder if someone can sponsor St. IGNUcious (Stallman) seminar. >>> >>> I'd sure like Bruce Perens to do one, but I'm for FS. Running Netrunner 14 >>> (Kubuntu base) and just love it. Its a GNU/Linux. I want GNU/Linux to be THE >>> home user's OS. >>> >>> I have been studying security and vulnerabilities so I don't have Facebook, >>> Twitter or use too many browsers that spy and track. My new email is from >>> Google (Ok OK, I know), but at least Google's server is a Linux. I also use >>> Midori. >>> >>> I don't use anything Microsoft unless its on the WINE lists. I know nothing >>> about Apple and can't afford it. >>> >>> I built my own 32bit rig and have built three others and altered more. I dig >>> hardware and junk piles. >>> >>> I'm also disabled, so I live only on Soc. Sec. retirement. I do have a good car. >>> >>> Please advise me if I am appropriate for our WLUG. >>> >>> Thanks for the read. >>> >>> Jim Barclay >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

Aug. 5, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Meeting on the 14th?

by David Glaser

How about the 13th. I have an openstack meeting on the 14th. Also, python for sysadmins sounds interesting. Openstack is written in Python. At first, I judged Python to be a scripting language but after some digging, it has some very usefull features for writing large systems- for example, name scoping. -David On 08/04/2014 05:03 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > By my reckoning the next meeting is the 14th? > > If nobody has a topic idea I'd be willing to do a quick talk on > "Python for sysadmins". > > Later, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 4, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Meeting on the 14th?

by thinkbrown＠gmail.com

I'm always interested in hearing more about Python. - Logan On Aug 4, 2014 5:04 PM, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > By my reckoning the next meeting is the 14th? > > If nobody has a topic idea I'd be willing to do a quick talk on "Python > for sysadmins". > > Later, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Aug. 4, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Meeting on the 14th?

by Frank Sweetser

Sounds like a good topic to me! -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. On August 4, 2014 5:03:09 PM EDT, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >By my reckoning the next meeting is the 14th? > >If nobody has a topic idea I'd be willing to do a quick talk on "Python >for >sysadmins". > >Later, >Tim. > >-- >I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >constituents as "consumers". > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 4, 2014

Meeting on the 14th?

by Tim Keller

By my reckoning the next meeting is the 14th? If nobody has a topic idea I'd be willing to do a quick talk on "Python for sysadmins". Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Aug. 4, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Spreading GNU/Linux to the masses

by James Gray

I think you'll fit right in. I'll try not to spout out any algorithms, but no promises, OK :) Seriously, I don't think we're a very intimidating group. Just come prepared to not know everything and be willing to ask questions. On Aug 4, 2014 12:36 AM, "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > Hi James, > > have no fear - the WLUG meetings are intentionally inclusive of users of > all levels, all the way out to people who have only heard of linux and are > curious to know more. While the meeting topics occasionally delve into > deeper > technical topics, they're always done with the less experienced users in > mind, > plus everyone is always welcome to throw out requests for meeting topics. > > Don't worry about keeping up - all are welcome! > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution > that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > > On 8/2/2014 4:13 PM, James Barclay wrote: > > I haven't been to one of the meetings at WPI as of yet even though I > only live > > near Elm Park (Looks really nice now, eh?) and here is why: > > > > I'm afraid I'll be attending an engineering and science meeting where > things > > like servers will be discussed. And algorithms will be presented and > > displayed for discussion; I'm just not that good. I'm just not at the > Knuth > > level at all and nowhere near someone like Stallman or Raymond. Who is? > > > > I'm what they call an "amateur Linux user and experimenter" and not an > > engineer of scientist. I can program in various popular languages and > use > > emacs as editor. I can tailor my distro to do what I need and want, but > I'm > > not one to gin up my own Linux. I've even messed with BeOS. I want to > spread > > the word and maybe even host a Linux class and host an installation > party- at > > the WPL(?). I wonder if someone can sponsor St. IGNUcious (Stallman) > seminar. > > > > I'd sure like Bruce Perens to do one, but I'm for FS. Running Netrunner > 14 > > (Kubuntu base) and just love it. Its a GNU/Linux. I want GNU/Linux to > be THE > > home user's OS. > > > > I have been studying security and vulnerabilities so I don't have > Facebook, > > Twitter or use too many browsers that spy and track. My new email is > from > > Google (Ok OK, I know), but at least Google's server is a Linux. I also > use > > Midori. > > > > I don't use anything Microsoft unless its on the WINE lists. I know > nothing > > about Apple and can't afford it. > > > > I built my own 32bit rig and have built three others and altered more. > I dig > > hardware and junk piles. > > > > I'm also disabled, so I live only on Soc. Sec. retirement. I do have a > good car. > > > > Please advise me if I am appropriate for our WLUG. > > > > Thanks for the read. > > > > Jim Barclay > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 4, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Spreading GNU/Linux to the masses

by Frank Sweetser

Hi James, have no fear - the WLUG meetings are intentionally inclusive of users of all levels, all the way out to people who have only heard of linux and are curious to know more. While the meeting topics occasionally delve into deeper technical topics, they're always done with the less experienced users in mind, plus everyone is always welcome to throw out requests for meeting topics. Don't worry about keeping up - all are welcome! Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 8/2/2014 4:13 PM, James Barclay wrote: > I haven't been to one of the meetings at WPI as of yet even though I only live > near Elm Park (Looks really nice now, eh?) and here is why: > > I'm afraid I'll be attending an engineering and science meeting where things > like servers will be discussed. And algorithms will be presented and > displayed for discussion; I'm just not that good. I'm just not at the Knuth > level at all and nowhere near someone like Stallman or Raymond. Who is? > > I'm what they call an "amateur Linux user and experimenter" and not an > engineer of scientist. I can program in various popular languages and use > emacs as editor. I can tailor my distro to do what I need and want, but I'm > not one to gin up my own Linux. I've even messed with BeOS. I want to spread > the word and maybe even host a Linux class and host an installation party- at > the WPL(?). I wonder if someone can sponsor St. IGNUcious (Stallman) seminar. > > I'd sure like Bruce Perens to do one, but I'm for FS. Running Netrunner 14 > (Kubuntu base) and just love it. Its a GNU/Linux. I want GNU/Linux to be THE > home user's OS. > > I have been studying security and vulnerabilities so I don't have Facebook, > Twitter or use too many browsers that spy and track. My new email is from > Google (Ok OK, I know), but at least Google's server is a Linux. I also use > Midori. > > I don't use anything Microsoft unless its on the WINE lists. I know nothing > about Apple and can't afford it. > > I built my own 32bit rig and have built three others and altered more. I dig > hardware and junk piles. > > I'm also disabled, so I live only on Soc. Sec. retirement. I do have a good car. > > Please advise me if I am appropriate for our WLUG. > > Thanks for the read. > > Jim Barclay

Aug. 4, 2014

Automating RPM building

by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com

For my btbuilder project, I have a script to automatically tag a new version, put everything into an tgz, cross-compile to windows, and zip that up. Recently I've been building a .src.rpm for Fedora's copr as well. Actually the rpm is for inclusion in Fedora but I haven't gotten a sponsor yet so publishing to copr is best I can do: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1079064 I'd like to automate the building of this .src.rpm. Currently I copy the tgz to makerpm's rpmbuild/SOURCES and use rpmbuild as user makerpm. I'm trying to find a good way to automate that. Suggestions? I could use ssh with ssh-keygen but I'm wondering if there is a better way.

July 12, 2014

ANNOUNCE: It's Official: WLUG picnic - Thursday July 10

by Chuck Anderson

Dick Goodman has volunteered to host & cook at his Worcester home for the WLUG picnic this year on Thursday July 10. Here are the parameters for Thursday's picnic: Dick will provide hot dogs, hamburgers, buns/rolls, potato salad, cole slaw and condiments. Spoiler: no cheeseburgers (kosher issue) People can bring: Soda and other beverages, watermelon, chips & dips, salad and desserts. Please don't bring anything with meat. Date/Time: Thursday, July 10, 6:00 PM Place: 51 Valley Hill Drive, Worcester, MA Thanks Dick for hosting! -Chuck

July 7, 2014

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 129, Issue 1

by Pete Wason

I can. What time? Pete On 7/3/2014 12:00 PM, wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: WLUG BBQ - Thursday July 10? (The Hammer) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 6, 2014