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Re: Reminder! WLUG Meeting Tomorrow Jan 26th 2023: Topic Frame.work laptop demo!

by Chris (wolcen) Thompson

Will there be simulcast via Jitsi tonight? I'm not up for hour+ the train ride & walk each way, but do miss going. I'll get out there some day! ~Chris On 1/26/23 16:57, John Stoffel via WLUG wrote: > Even though I won't be there tonight in person, this interesting > article about USB-C and the framework laptop just dropped on > hackaday.com > > https://hackaday.com/2023/01/26/all-about-usb-c-framework-laptop/ > > Cheers! > John > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/VRYJM…

Jan. 26, 2023

Re: Reminder! WLUG Meeting Tomorrow Jan 26th 2023: Topic Frame.work laptop demo!

by John Stoffel

Even though I won't be there tonight in person, this interesting article about USB-C and the framework laptop just dropped on hackaday.com https://hackaday.com/2023/01/26/all-about-usb-c-framework-laptop/ Cheers! John

Jan. 26, 2023

Re: Reminder! WLUG Meeting Tomorrow Jan 26th 2023: Topic Frame.work laptop demo!

by John Stoffel

Hi guys, Sorry I won't make it in person tonight, not feeling my best so I don't want to share what I've got. I'll be online hopefully. Bummed I won't be able to touch the laptop in person. Cheers, John

Jan. 26, 2023

Reminder! WLUG Meeting Tomorrow Jan 26th 2023: Topic Frame.work laptop demo!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, This is a reminder that we've got a meeting tomorrow at WPI! Time: 7pm Location: WPI Student Center Room 128 (Taylor Room) Down below the stairs. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: frame.work laptop demo, passbolt demo Cara Salter has agreed to come and show off her frame.work laptop. This laptop is designed with upgrade ability in mind. Components such as the motherboard can be easily swapped for more powerful versions, etc. I'm also going to show off passbolt <https://www.passbolt.com/>. This is a FOSS password manager. With the massive breach of lastpass, people may want to think about having total ownership of their password stores. This solves that. As usual snacks and refreshments will be provided and afterwards we'll head off and have dinner and keep the conversation going. I hope to see you there! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 25, 2023

Reminder! Meeting January 26th at 7pm Topic: Frame.work, passbolt

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody! Happy 2023! We've got our first meeting of the new year!! Time: 7pm Date: 1/26/2023 Location: WPI Student Center Rm 128 (Taylor Room) Topic(s): frame.work laptop demo, passbolt demo Cara Salter has agreed to come and show off her frame.work laptop. This laptop is designed with upgrade ability in mind. Components such as the motherboard can be easily swapped for more powerful versions, etc. I'm also going to show off passbolt <https://www.passbolt.com/>. This is a FOSS password manager. With the massive breach of lastpass, people may want to think about having total ownership of their password stores. This solves that. As usual snacks and refreshments will be provided and afterwards we'll head off and have dinner can keep the conversation going. I hope to see you there! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 22, 2023

Re: [EXT] Framework Laptops

by Tim Keller

Since we are now back meeting in person, our *general* meeting place is in the WPI student center. I need to talk to Frank about scheduling a meeting place for us. I'd like to get back into the room we were in last time as the A/V setup worked really well. Thanks, Tim. On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 11:32 AM Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It's been so long, where and when is the meeting again? I don't think I > ever attended when I joined in 2012 or so. > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2023, 10:48 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> We have a meeting coming up on the 26th, this sounds like a great starter >> topic! >> >> Cara, would you be interested in coming to the meeting and doing a demo? >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 3:14 PM Jason Couture via WLUG < >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >> >>> The other cool thing though: >>> You can 3d print a case for the old board if you upgrade. I plan on >>> making a dock for them that will fit in 2-3u with a usb-backplane with a >>> 10gbe switch, and 2x usb-c 10gbe + Power delivery. You'd be able to pack >>> them super dense. Great for a proxmox or harvester cluster. >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 3:12 PM Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I've had no issues with mine on fedora. For what it's worth. >>>> >>>> Highly recommend framework. Although I did get the runaround with >>>> support about a usb4 dock. Kept getting me to try windows, despite the fact >>>> I had. >>>> >>>> But we have 3, they're rock solid. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 12:22 PM John Stoffel via WLUG < >>>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Cara" == Cara Salter via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >>>>> >>>>> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:52:40PM -0500, Keith Wright via WLUG >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> Is that 42 days from deciding to order one until happily browsing >>>>> >> the web with newly installed Debian, Xfce, Firefox? Or 42 days >>>>> >> from starting to fill out the order form until finally getting >>>>> >> the last required field filled in? Or what? >>>>> >>>>> > Hi! I'm the workstudy in question. According to the emails I >>>>> > received for moving through each step in the process, it took 42 >>>>> > days from me submitting my deposit and me receiving a physical >>>>> > laptop that I could start using. >>>>> >>>>> Would you be willing to come to a WLUG meeting and show off your new >>>>> toy to the rest of us? I do like the idea of that laptop, but I'd >>>>> like to get my hands on it to see how the feel of it really is. >>>>> >>>>> > For context, I ordered the "DIY edition" which didn't come with the >>>>> RAM or >>>>> > storage. I ordered both on Amazon and they arrived a bit before the >>>>> laptop. >>>>> >>>>> > I'm currently writing this from my Gentoo install on it! The only >>>>> > two issues I ran into was that the wifi card (Intel AX210) firmware >>>>> > wasn't in the "stable" kernel, so I had to keyword my system to >>>>> > ~amd64. The other issue I ran into was that kernel 5.19.12 had a bad >>>>> > display driver that caused flickering >>>>> > ( >>>>> https://community.frame.work/t/psa-dont-upgrade-to-linux-kernel-5-19-12/231… >>>>> ) >>>>> >>>>> Did you fix the flickering with a newer kernel version? Its been >>>>> years since I ran Gentoo (got tired of all the recompiles, but this >>>>> was 10+ years ago for sure....) and I thought it was pretty damn >>>>> bleeding edge in terms of kernels. >>>>> >>>>> I'm currently running kernel 6.0.8 on my main Debian Buster home >>>>> NFS/KVM/etc server and it works great, but it is headless. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>>> Change Settings: >>>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>>> Web Forum/Archive: >>>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/3RZJO… >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>> Change Settings: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>> Web Forum/Archive: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/KZV2E… >>> >> >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/6AN6H… >> > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 16, 2023

Re: [EXT] Framework Laptops

by Jason Couture

It's been so long, where and when is the meeting again? I don't think I ever attended when I joined in 2012 or so. On Mon, Jan 16, 2023, 10:48 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > We have a meeting coming up on the 26th, this sounds like a great starter > topic! > > Cara, would you be interested in coming to the meeting and doing a demo? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 3:14 PM Jason Couture via WLUG < > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > >> The other cool thing though: >> You can 3d print a case for the old board if you upgrade. I plan on >> making a dock for them that will fit in 2-3u with a usb-backplane with a >> 10gbe switch, and 2x usb-c 10gbe + Power delivery. You'd be able to pack >> them super dense. Great for a proxmox or harvester cluster. >> >> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 3:12 PM Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I've had no issues with mine on fedora. For what it's worth. >>> >>> Highly recommend framework. Although I did get the runaround with >>> support about a usb4 dock. Kept getting me to try windows, despite the fact >>> I had. >>> >>> But we have 3, they're rock solid. >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 12:22 PM John Stoffel via WLUG < >>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> "Cara" == Cara Salter via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >>>> >>>> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:52:40PM -0500, Keith Wright via WLUG >>>> wrote: >>>> >> Is that 42 days from deciding to order one until happily browsing >>>> >> the web with newly installed Debian, Xfce, Firefox? Or 42 days >>>> >> from starting to fill out the order form until finally getting >>>> >> the last required field filled in? Or what? >>>> >>>> > Hi! I'm the workstudy in question. According to the emails I >>>> > received for moving through each step in the process, it took 42 >>>> > days from me submitting my deposit and me receiving a physical >>>> > laptop that I could start using. >>>> >>>> Would you be willing to come to a WLUG meeting and show off your new >>>> toy to the rest of us? I do like the idea of that laptop, but I'd >>>> like to get my hands on it to see how the feel of it really is. >>>> >>>> > For context, I ordered the "DIY edition" which didn't come with the >>>> RAM or >>>> > storage. I ordered both on Amazon and they arrived a bit before the >>>> laptop. >>>> >>>> > I'm currently writing this from my Gentoo install on it! The only >>>> > two issues I ran into was that the wifi card (Intel AX210) firmware >>>> > wasn't in the "stable" kernel, so I had to keyword my system to >>>> > ~amd64. The other issue I ran into was that kernel 5.19.12 had a bad >>>> > display driver that caused flickering >>>> > ( >>>> https://community.frame.work/t/psa-dont-upgrade-to-linux-kernel-5-19-12/231… >>>> ) >>>> >>>> Did you fix the flickering with a newer kernel version? Its been >>>> years since I ran Gentoo (got tired of all the recompiles, but this >>>> was 10+ years ago for sure....) and I thought it was pretty damn >>>> bleeding edge in terms of kernels. >>>> >>>> I'm currently running kernel 6.0.8 on my main Debian Buster home >>>> NFS/KVM/etc server and it works great, but it is headless. >>>> >>>> John >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>> Change Settings: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>> Web Forum/Archive: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/3RZJO… >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/KZV2E… >> > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/6AN6H… >

Jan. 16, 2023

Re: [EXT] Framework Laptops

by Tim Keller

We have a meeting coming up on the 26th, this sounds like a great starter topic! Cara, would you be interested in coming to the meeting and doing a demo? Thanks, Tim. On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 3:14 PM Jason Couture via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > The other cool thing though: > You can 3d print a case for the old board if you upgrade. I plan on making > a dock for them that will fit in 2-3u with a usb-backplane with a 10gbe > switch, and 2x usb-c 10gbe + Power delivery. You'd be able to pack them > super dense. Great for a proxmox or harvester cluster. > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 3:12 PM Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I've had no issues with mine on fedora. For what it's worth. >> >> Highly recommend framework. Although I did get the runaround with support >> about a usb4 dock. Kept getting me to try windows, despite the fact I had. >> >> But we have 3, they're rock solid. >> >> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 12:22 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >> wrote: >> >>> >>>>> "Cara" == Cara Salter via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >>> >>> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:52:40PM -0500, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote: >>> >> Is that 42 days from deciding to order one until happily browsing >>> >> the web with newly installed Debian, Xfce, Firefox? Or 42 days >>> >> from starting to fill out the order form until finally getting >>> >> the last required field filled in? Or what? >>> >>> > Hi! I'm the workstudy in question. According to the emails I >>> > received for moving through each step in the process, it took 42 >>> > days from me submitting my deposit and me receiving a physical >>> > laptop that I could start using. >>> >>> Would you be willing to come to a WLUG meeting and show off your new >>> toy to the rest of us? I do like the idea of that laptop, but I'd >>> like to get my hands on it to see how the feel of it really is. >>> >>> > For context, I ordered the "DIY edition" which didn't come with the >>> RAM or >>> > storage. I ordered both on Amazon and they arrived a bit before the >>> laptop. >>> >>> > I'm currently writing this from my Gentoo install on it! The only >>> > two issues I ran into was that the wifi card (Intel AX210) firmware >>> > wasn't in the "stable" kernel, so I had to keyword my system to >>> > ~amd64. The other issue I ran into was that kernel 5.19.12 had a bad >>> > display driver that caused flickering >>> > ( >>> https://community.frame.work/t/psa-dont-upgrade-to-linux-kernel-5-19-12/231… >>> ) >>> >>> Did you fix the flickering with a newer kernel version? Its been >>> years since I ran Gentoo (got tired of all the recompiles, but this >>> was 10+ years ago for sure....) and I thought it was pretty damn >>> bleeding edge in terms of kernels. >>> >>> I'm currently running kernel 6.0.8 on my main Debian Buster home >>> NFS/KVM/etc server and it works great, but it is headless. >>> >>> John >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>> Change Settings: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>> Web Forum/Archive: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/3RZJO… >>> >> _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/KZV2E… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 16, 2023

Re: [EXT] Framework Laptops

by Jason Couture

The other cool thing though: You can 3d print a case for the old board if you upgrade. I plan on making a dock for them that will fit in 2-3u with a usb-backplane with a 10gbe switch, and 2x usb-c 10gbe + Power delivery. You'd be able to pack them super dense. Great for a proxmox or harvester cluster. On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 3:12 PM Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I've had no issues with mine on fedora. For what it's worth. > > Highly recommend framework. Although I did get the runaround with support > about a usb4 dock. Kept getting me to try windows, despite the fact I had. > > But we have 3, they're rock solid. > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 12:22 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> >>>>> "Cara" == Cara Salter via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> >> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:52:40PM -0500, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote: >> >> Is that 42 days from deciding to order one until happily browsing >> >> the web with newly installed Debian, Xfce, Firefox? Or 42 days >> >> from starting to fill out the order form until finally getting >> >> the last required field filled in? Or what? >> >> > Hi! I'm the workstudy in question. According to the emails I >> > received for moving through each step in the process, it took 42 >> > days from me submitting my deposit and me receiving a physical >> > laptop that I could start using. >> >> Would you be willing to come to a WLUG meeting and show off your new >> toy to the rest of us? I do like the idea of that laptop, but I'd >> like to get my hands on it to see how the feel of it really is. >> >> > For context, I ordered the "DIY edition" which didn't come with the RAM >> or >> > storage. I ordered both on Amazon and they arrived a bit before the >> laptop. >> >> > I'm currently writing this from my Gentoo install on it! The only >> > two issues I ran into was that the wifi card (Intel AX210) firmware >> > wasn't in the "stable" kernel, so I had to keyword my system to >> > ~amd64. The other issue I ran into was that kernel 5.19.12 had a bad >> > display driver that caused flickering >> > ( >> https://community.frame.work/t/psa-dont-upgrade-to-linux-kernel-5-19-12/231… >> ) >> >> Did you fix the flickering with a newer kernel version? Its been >> years since I ran Gentoo (got tired of all the recompiles, but this >> was 10+ years ago for sure....) and I thought it was pretty damn >> bleeding edge in terms of kernels. >> >> I'm currently running kernel 6.0.8 on my main Debian Buster home >> NFS/KVM/etc server and it works great, but it is headless. >> >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/3RZJO… >> >

Jan. 13, 2023

Re: [EXT] Framework Laptops

by Jason Couture

I've had no issues with mine on fedora. For what it's worth. Highly recommend framework. Although I did get the runaround with support about a usb4 dock. Kept getting me to try windows, despite the fact I had. But we have 3, they're rock solid. On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 12:22 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Cara" == Cara Salter via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:52:40PM -0500, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote: > >> Is that 42 days from deciding to order one until happily browsing > >> the web with newly installed Debian, Xfce, Firefox? Or 42 days > >> from starting to fill out the order form until finally getting > >> the last required field filled in? Or what? > > > Hi! I'm the workstudy in question. According to the emails I > > received for moving through each step in the process, it took 42 > > days from me submitting my deposit and me receiving a physical > > laptop that I could start using. > > Would you be willing to come to a WLUG meeting and show off your new > toy to the rest of us? I do like the idea of that laptop, but I'd > like to get my hands on it to see how the feel of it really is. > > > For context, I ordered the "DIY edition" which didn't come with the RAM > or > > storage. I ordered both on Amazon and they arrived a bit before the > laptop. > > > I'm currently writing this from my Gentoo install on it! The only > > two issues I ran into was that the wifi card (Intel AX210) firmware > > wasn't in the "stable" kernel, so I had to keyword my system to > > ~amd64. The other issue I ran into was that kernel 5.19.12 had a bad > > display driver that caused flickering > > ( > https://community.frame.work/t/psa-dont-upgrade-to-linux-kernel-5-19-12/231… > ) > > Did you fix the flickering with a newer kernel version? Its been > years since I ran Gentoo (got tired of all the recompiles, but this > was 10+ years ago for sure....) and I thought it was pretty damn > bleeding edge in terms of kernels. > > I'm currently running kernel 6.0.8 on my main Debian Buster home > NFS/KVM/etc server and it works great, but it is headless. > > John > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/3RZJO… >

Jan. 13, 2023