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Re: [Wlug] Converting an iPAQ

by Wesley Allen

On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 16:29, maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu wrote: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 03:05:08PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: > > On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 14:41, maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 01:31:27PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: > > > > For the last few months I've been hoping to save up some money and get a > > > > Zaurus, I don't think that it's going to happen any time soon. So, I've > > > > got an iPAQ that I can't sync, or even connect, with my linux laptop and > > > > it's beginning to get on my nerves. So, even though I've got some > > > > software on my iPAQ that I'll miss (a Bible Reader with the Greek Text > > > > and SimCity 2000), I'm thinking that it's time to take the plunge and > > > > get Linux and Qtopia on my 3835. > > > I would recommend OPIE over Qtopia. Its the fork of Qtopia. It seems to > > > making very good process. Qtopia has been quiet lately. (lately - meaning > > > the last 6 months or so) > > > > > > Bible Reader - i'm not sure there is an alternate app for that, yet > > > SimCity 2000 - There's always xbill! Nope, even did a urpmi xbill and nothing. > > > > I know of an alternative app for a BibleReader, it's the modules I'll > > miss. What's xbill? > xbill is a game that has come with every linux disto that i've tried. > It's kind of a classic linux game. > Try typing 'xbill' in a shell (while in X), and take a look > > > > > Three Questions, > > > > 1. Has anyone on the list done this, especially with this model? > > > i haven't. Mine is a 36xx. But i have gone through the install before. > > > > I know the process is the same, so... > > > > > > > > > 2. Has anyone who has done this used any of theKompany's embedded apps? > > > i have not used theKompany's apps. Which ones were you thinking of > > > using? > > > > Their ogg player for one, and a couple of other things that Shawn Gordon > > says SHOULD run on an iPAQ. I want tKc to stay in business, so I don't > > mind paying some money, for stuff like that. I like their Calendar > > better than Qtopia's or Opie's for example. Though Opie's got the > > "today" screen, great touch! Will qtopia apps run in Opie, how "forked" > > is it? > > ahhh, i see. I would like to see theKompany to stay in business as well. > Good point. > > There are a couple of calendar programs, > - theKompany's (never seen/used it) > - OPIE's and Qtopia's (believe they are pretty simaler) > - korganizer (it was ported to QTe, it has the same code base as > korganizer for KDE So they both look very similar, one is just > smaller than the other). > > Yeah, the ogg player would be nice. > > One of OPIE's goals is to be binary compatable with Qtopia, as well as > the sharp zaurus. So you should be able to run any on either Qtopia, or > OPIE the apps. > > > > > 3. Is there anyone willing to help me do this face to face? I could do > > > > this on my own, but the idea of potentially owning a $599 paperweight > > > > dims my enthusiasm when I think of going it alone. (I'll buy the > > > > coffee) > > > Perhaps, i don't know if i can make it to the next meeting or not. I > > > will be in boston that day. It's hard to say at this point whether i > > > can be back in time. > > > > Actually, I was thinking of just setting up shop in a local coffee house > > with laptop, iPAQ, and mug. How long does the install take? It might > > I'm a tea drinker ;) ... I don't remember how long it takes exacly. It > takes a few minutes to transfer all that data through a serial port. > Also i seem to remember that i took a while to make a backup image of > WinCE (16Mb of files for me, probably 32Mb of files for you). > > > > make a good meeting topic though, an "embedded linux installfest!" > > (Imagine trying THAT outside a bestbuy! > heh, intersting idea. > > -brad > > WARNING: this was not checked for spelling errors. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > --

Sept. 13, 2002

Zaurus SL-5500

by jfmurphy

On Thursday 12 September 2002 13:31, Wesley Allen wrote: > For the last few months I've been hoping to save up some money and > get a Zaurus, I don't think that it's going to happen any time > soon. So, I've got an iPAQ that I can't sync, or even connect, > with my linux laptop and it's beginning to get on my nerves. So, > even though I've got some software on my iPAQ that I'll miss (a > Bible Reader with the Greek Text and SimCity 2000), I'm thinking > that it's time to take the plunge and get Linux and Qtopia on my > 3835. Funny for the past day I've been looking into the Zaurus SL-5500. Looked on Cnet price comparison to check prices. Three or four prices between $330 and $350. From the Windows OS side they look great. >From the Linux desktop side there seems to be a problem getting them to sync. No software for the Linux user to get them working provided with the Zaurus. I use Suse, is anyone using a Zaurus on the Linux desktop side? You would think there wouldn't be an issue with Linux. John -- "Two roads diverged in a wood, and I -- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference." -- Robert Frost

Sept. 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Converting an iPAQ

by maitre＠ccs.neu.edu

On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 03:05:08PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: > On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 14:41, maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 01:31:27PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: > > > For the last few months I've been hoping to save up some money and get a > > > Zaurus, I don't think that it's going to happen any time soon. So, I've > > > got an iPAQ that I can't sync, or even connect, with my linux laptop and > > > it's beginning to get on my nerves. So, even though I've got some > > > software on my iPAQ that I'll miss (a Bible Reader with the Greek Text > > > and SimCity 2000), I'm thinking that it's time to take the plunge and > > > get Linux and Qtopia on my 3835. > > I would recommend OPIE over Qtopia. Its the fork of Qtopia. It seems to > > making very good process. Qtopia has been quiet lately. (lately - meaning > > the last 6 months or so) > > > > Bible Reader - i'm not sure there is an alternate app for that, yet > > SimCity 2000 - There's always xbill! > > I know of an alternative app for a BibleReader, it's the modules I'll > miss. What's xbill? xbill is a game that has come with every linux disto that i've tried. It's kind of a classic linux game. Try typing 'xbill' in a shell (while in X), and take a look > > > Three Questions, > > > 1. Has anyone on the list done this, especially with this model? > > i haven't. Mine is a 36xx. But i have gone through the install before. > > I know the process is the same, so... > > > > > > 2. Has anyone who has done this used any of theKompany's embedded apps? > > i have not used theKompany's apps. Which ones were you thinking of > > using? > > Their ogg player for one, and a couple of other things that Shawn Gordon > says SHOULD run on an iPAQ. I want tKc to stay in business, so I don't > mind paying some money, for stuff like that. I like their Calendar > better than Qtopia's or Opie's for example. Though Opie's got the > "today" screen, great touch! Will qtopia apps run in Opie, how "forked" > is it? ahhh, i see. I would like to see theKompany to stay in business as well. Good point. There are a couple of calendar programs, - theKompany's (never seen/used it) - OPIE's and Qtopia's (believe they are pretty simaler) - korganizer (it was ported to QTe, it has the same code base as korganizer for KDE So they both look very similar, one is just smaller than the other). Yeah, the ogg player would be nice. One of OPIE's goals is to be binary compatable with Qtopia, as well as the sharp zaurus. So you should be able to run any on either Qtopia, or OPIE the apps. > > > 3. Is there anyone willing to help me do this face to face? I could do > > > this on my own, but the idea of potentially owning a $599 paperweight > > > dims my enthusiasm when I think of going it alone. (I'll buy the > > > coffee) > > Perhaps, i don't know if i can make it to the next meeting or not. I > > will be in boston that day. It's hard to say at this point whether i > > can be back in time. > > Actually, I was thinking of just setting up shop in a local coffee house > with laptop, iPAQ, and mug. How long does the install take? It might I'm a tea drinker ;) ... I don't remember how long it takes exacly. It takes a few minutes to transfer all that data through a serial port. Also i seem to remember that i took a while to make a backup image of WinCE (16Mb of files for me, probably 32Mb of files for you). > make a good meeting topic though, an "embedded linux installfest!" > (Imagine trying THAT outside a bestbuy! heh, intersting idea. -brad WARNING: this was not checked for spelling errors.

Sept. 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Converting an iPAQ

by Wesley Allen

On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 14:41, maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu wrote: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 01:31:27PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: > > For the last few months I've been hoping to save up some money and get a > > Zaurus, I don't think that it's going to happen any time soon. So, I've > > got an iPAQ that I can't sync, or even connect, with my linux laptop and > > it's beginning to get on my nerves. So, even though I've got some > > software on my iPAQ that I'll miss (a Bible Reader with the Greek Text > > and SimCity 2000), I'm thinking that it's time to take the plunge and > > get Linux and Qtopia on my 3835. > I would recommend OPIE over Qtopia. Its the fork of Qtopia. It seems to > making very good process. Qtopia has been quiet lately. (lately - meaning > the last 6 months or so) > > Bible Reader - i'm not sure there is an alternate app for that, yet > SimCity 2000 - There's always xbill! I know of an alternative app for a BibleReader, it's the modules I'll miss. What's xbill? > > > > Three Questions, > > 1. Has anyone on the list done this, especially with this model? > i haven't. Mine is a 36xx. But i have gone through the install before. I know the process is the same, so... > > > 2. Has anyone who has done this used any of theKompany's embedded apps? > i have not used theKompany's apps. Which ones were you thinking of > using? Their ogg player for one, and a couple of other things that Shawn Gordon says SHOULD run on an iPAQ. I want tKc to stay in business, so I don't mind paying some money, for stuff like that. I like their Calendar better than Qtopia's or Opie's for example. Though Opie's got the "today" screen, great touch! Will qtopia apps run in Opie, how "forked" is it? > > > 3. Is there anyone willing to help me do this face to face? I could do > > this on my own, but the idea of potentially owning a $599 paperweight > > dims my enthusiasm when I think of going it alone. (I'll buy the > > coffee) > Perhaps, i don't know if i can make it to the next meeting or not. I > will be in boston that day. It's hard to say at this point whether i > can be back in time. Actually, I was thinking of just setting up shop in a local coffee house with laptop, iPAQ, and mug. How long does the install take? It might make a good meeting topic though, an "embedded linux installfest!" (Imagine trying THAT outside a bestbuy! Wes > > Are there other people that want to try this? Or watch this? > > --brad > > WARNING: This email has not been spell checked. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > --

Sept. 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Converting an iPAQ

by maitre＠ccs.neu.edu

On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 01:31:27PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: > For the last few months I've been hoping to save up some money and get a > Zaurus, I don't think that it's going to happen any time soon. So, I've > got an iPAQ that I can't sync, or even connect, with my linux laptop and > it's beginning to get on my nerves. So, even though I've got some > software on my iPAQ that I'll miss (a Bible Reader with the Greek Text > and SimCity 2000), I'm thinking that it's time to take the plunge and > get Linux and Qtopia on my 3835. I would recommend OPIE over Qtopia. Its the fork of Qtopia. It seems to making very good process. Qtopia has been quiet lately. (lately - meaning the last 6 months or so) Bible Reader - i'm not sure there is an alternate app for that, yet SimCity 2000 - There's always xbill! > > Three Questions, > 1. Has anyone on the list done this, especially with this model? i haven't. Mine is a 36xx. But i have gone through the install before. > 2. Has anyone who has done this used any of theKompany's embedded apps? i have not used theKompany's apps. Which ones were you thinking of using? > 3. Is there anyone willing to help me do this face to face? I could do > this on my own, but the idea of potentially owning a $599 paperweight > dims my enthusiasm when I think of going it alone. (I'll buy the > coffee) Perhaps, i don't know if i can make it to the next meeting or not. I will be in boston that day. It's hard to say at this point whether i can be back in time. Are there other people that want to try this? Or watch this? --brad WARNING: This email has not been spell checked.

Sept. 12, 2002

Converting an iPAQ

by Wesley Allen

For the last few months I've been hoping to save up some money and get a Zaurus, I don't think that it's going to happen any time soon. So, I've got an iPAQ that I can't sync, or even connect, with my linux laptop and it's beginning to get on my nerves. So, even though I've got some software on my iPAQ that I'll miss (a Bible Reader with the Greek Text and SimCity 2000), I'm thinking that it's time to take the plunge and get Linux and Qtopia on my 3835. Three Questions, 1. Has anyone on the list done this, especially with this model? 2. Has anyone who has done this used any of theKompany's embedded apps? 3. Is there anyone willing to help me do this face to face? I could do this on my own, but the idea of potentially owning a $599 paperweight dims my enthusiasm when I think of going it alone. (I'll buy the coffee) I've got a serial adapter, so that's not a problem. So, what do you say, anyone out there willing to teach me something new? Wes --

Sept. 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Free to a good home

by jkinz＠rcn.com

On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 09:14:07AM -0400, Scott Venier wrote: > I've got a 20" Sun branded Trinitron monitor (GDM-20D10) that is yours if > you just come fetch it from me in Worcester. Why is it free? Because the > cable that's pigtailed on is busted and it doesn't do red very well > anymore. The connector on the end of the cable is at 13W3. It should be > fixable by just opening the thing up and replacing the cable. > > Any takers? Does it come with hernia insurance ? :) They are great monitors but the shipping weight is around 85 Lbs! I have moved them by myself but I recommend two people for any move greater than 20 feet. Especially if you have to go up or down any steps, even just one or two. But you can't beat the price. -- Jeff Kinz, Director, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. "jkinz(a)ultranet.com" copyright 1995-2002. Use restricted to non-UCE uses. Any other use is an acceptance of the offer at http://www.ultranet.com/~jkinz/policy.html. "jkinz(a)rcn.com" copyright 2002. Use is restricted. Any use is an acceptance of the offer at http://users.rcn.com/jkinz/policy.html. (¬_ -o) //\ eLviintuaxbilse /\\ V_/_ _\_V

Sept. 10, 2002

Free to a good home

by Scott Venier

I've got a 20" Sun branded Trinitron monitor (GDM-20D10) that is yours if you just come fetch it from me in Worcester. Why is it free? Because the cable that's pigtailed on is busted and it doesn't do red very well anymore. The connector on the end of the cable is at 13W3. It should be fixable by just opening the thing up and replacing the cable. Any takers? Scott

Sept. 10, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Stat Gathering

by Marc Hughes

I found a nifty utility called HotSaNIC that does exactly what I was looking for. http://www.bernisys.prima.de/linux/HotSaNIC/ Thanks anyways, -Marc -----Original Message----- From: stoffel(a)lucent.com [mailto:stoffel@lucent.com] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:37 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Cc: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Stat Gathering Marc> I'd like to collect some stats on a few servers over time. Things Marc> like bandwidth usage, load averages, used/free memory, disk I/O. Marc> Does anyone have any favorite tools to do this easily. Also... Marc> Anything that makes pretty graphs to show management would be Marc> bonus points. You want to use either MRTG (www.mrtg.org) or Cricket (http://cricket.sourceforge.net/) which is based on top of the RRDtool from MRTG. Very nice stuff. John John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies stoffel(a)lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-399-0479 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 9, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Stat Gathering

by stoffel＠lucent.com

Marc> I'd like to collect some stats on a few servers over time. Marc> Things like bandwidth usage, load averages, used/free memory, Marc> disk I/O. Does anyone have any favorite tools to do this Marc> easily. Also... Anything that makes pretty graphs to show Marc> management would be bonus points. You want to use either MRTG (www.mrtg.org) or Cricket (http://cricket.sourceforge.net/) which is based on top of the RRDtool from MRTG. Very nice stuff. John John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies stoffel(a)lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-399-0479

Sept. 9, 2002