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A question

by Jason Couture

So guys, Anyone live near worcester and feel like going out for a drink tomorrow night? I've lived up here for two and a half years and all ive done is work, sleep, and eat. Id like to get out of my house for once and go do something, Would anyone care to join me? As i know no one up here.

April 30, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Sorry about the facebook thing.

by Mike Peckar

More worrysome for me than the data mining practices is that as a dad with three kids that use Facebook, are the intellectual property rights issues that have cropped up over the last few years. Facebook has eased off a bit, but my understanding is that a typical user's content can be commercially expoited in perpetuity by Facebook if they feel like it. More at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook in the "Terms of Use" controversy section. -- Mike

April 30, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Sorry about the facebook thing.

by Chuck Anderson

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 06:38:56AM -0400, Frank Sweetser wrote: > Keith Wright wrote: > > > So the webmail provider has sold out? > > No, it's actually worse than that. Facebook offers to do "useful" things with > your address book. In order to get at your address book, it encourages you to > give it your webmail provider, username, and password. Doesn't *that* sound > like a good idea? It doesn't even take a real candy bar these days for people to give up their login credentials to third parties. The excitement of being able to SuperPoke someone, play Mafia Wars, and spend *real cash* to send "Limited Edition" icons of pink panties to friends is enough.

April 30, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Sorry about the facebook thing.

by Frank Sweetser

Keith Wright wrote: > So the webmail provider has sold out? No, it's actually worse than that. Facebook offers to do "useful" things with your address book. In order to get at your address book, it encourages you to give it your webmail provider, username, and password. Doesn't *that* sound like a good idea? > If I go to Facebook with Linux and Firefox > will the same happen to me? Yep - it's cross platform and cross browser compatible evil! -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

April 30, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Sorry about the facebook thing.

by Keith Wright

> From: Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> > > I accidentially clicked the send invites button on > facebook, I didnt mean to, it sent it to EVERYONE in > my address book :| Quite annoying. > > So anyways, I do apologize for the spam. > > Jason Couture ------------------------ > From: Ben LaVerriere <gonoldothrond(a)gmail.com> > > In fairness, it did require some action on Jason's > part --- Why be elaborately fair to the evil ones? This is the third time I have gotten one of these bot-written Facebook "invitations" which was soon followed by apologies and annoyance from the purported sender. They _trick_ people into pushing the button. But what does the button have to do with it? What program does the button run that could not be run without the button? Is this a gaping security hole in the browser and operating system? Or is it an conspiracy between Facebook and your email host? > Facebook does have a feature (?) to email > people "from your address book" at various webmail > providers, So the webmail provider has sold out? If I go to Facebook with Linux and Firefox will the same happen to me? > but it won't do so without the user specifically > providing his or her credentials and approval. You need another "(?)" after "approval". But why not? Is that in writing, or is it really enforced by software, or is it just a rumor they like to spread? > More specifically, we should be upset at Jason for > not noticing that WLUG isn't a person when asking > Facebook to send those messages, not at Facebook for > letting him do so. To be fair, you shouldn't have to be checking all kinds of occult trivia to prevent your entire address book from getting sent to any website that asks for it. Facebook did not _let_ him send it. This is one of the headers of that message: > Received: from mx-out.facebook.com > (outmail018.snc1.tfbnw.net [69.63.178.177]) > by SMTP.WPI.EDU (8.14.2/8.14.2) > with ESMTP id n3TG9iIT026912 > for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; > Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:09:50 -0400 > (envelope-from invite+2maswggx(a)facebookmail.com) that clearly shows it was transfered directly from Facebook to WPI, Jason had little to do with it. I think I will stay upset with Microsoft, Facebook, and the webmail corporations and side with the human. -- Keith

April 30, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Sorry about the facebook thing.

by Jason Couture

LOL. There is no confirmation either, Once that button is clicked and the post request sent, Even if you attempt to abort it, the emails go out. It really sucks, and the buttons are so small and close together... lol bleh. But regardless it was my mistake. Be careful what you click :P Espically when you have an addressbook with like, 9000 addresses in it lol. That and the fact that im a bit of an idiot does tend to add into the whole mistake making fiasco. :P On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: >> From: Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> >> >> I accidentially clicked the send invites button on >> facebook, I didnt mean to, it sent it to EVERYONE in >> my address book :| Quite annoying. >> >> So anyways, I do apologize for the spam. >> >> Jason Couture > ------------------------ >> From: Ben LaVerriere <gonoldothrond(a)gmail.com> >> >> In fairness, it did require some action on Jason's >> part --- > > Why be elaborately fair to the evil ones? > > This is the third time I have gotten one of > these bot-written Facebook "invitations" which > was soon followed by apologies and annoyance > from the purported sender. > > They _trick_ people into pushing the button. > > But what does the button have to do with it? What > program does the button run that could not be run > without the button? Is this a gaping security hole in > the browser and operating system? Or is it an > conspiracy between Facebook and your email host? > >> Facebook does have a feature (?) to email >> people "from your address book" at various webmail >> providers, > > So the webmail provider has sold out? > > If I go to Facebook with Linux and Firefox > will the same happen to me? > >> but it won't do so without the user specifically >> providing his or her credentials and approval. > > You need another "(?)" after "approval". > > But why not? Is that in writing, or is it > really enforced by software, or is it just > a rumor they like to spread? > >> More specifically, we should be upset at Jason for >> not noticing that WLUG isn't a person when asking >> Facebook to send those messages, not at Facebook for >> letting him do so. > > To be fair, you shouldn't have to be checking > all kinds of occult trivia to prevent > your entire address book from getting > sent to any website that asks for it. > > Facebook did not _let_ him send it. > > This is one of the headers of that message: > >> Received: from mx-out.facebook.com >> (outmail018.snc1.tfbnw.net [69.63.178.177]) >> by SMTP.WPI.EDU (8.14.2/8.14.2) >> with ESMTP id n3TG9iIT026912 >> for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; >> Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:09:50 -0400 >> (envelope-from invite+2maswggx(a)facebookmail.com) > > that clearly shows it was transfered directly > from Facebook to WPI, Jason had little to do with it. > > I think I will stay upset with Microsoft, > Facebook, and the webmail corporations > and side with the human. > > -- Keith > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 30, 2009

Sorry about the facebook thing.

by Jason Couture

I accidentially clicked the send invites button on facebook, I didnt mean to, it sent it to EVERYONE in my address book :| Quite annoying. So anyways, I do apologize for the spam. Jason Couture

April 30, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Check out my photos on Facebook

by Keith Wright

> From: Eric Stein <eastein(a)WPI.EDU> > > I believe I speak for us all when I ask WHAT THE HELL? For a while I thought Facebook might be evil. Now I know for sure. For those (are there still some) who have not seen this before, be assured that Jason did not write this message, it is autogenerated in the name of anyone who gets curious enough to touch Facebook. They have tricks for getting your address list and using it to spam everyone from your mother to your boss. Don't touch it. > Hi Worcester, The cheeky autospammer addresses Worcester Linux Group by his first name. > I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my > pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as > a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join > Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own > profile. This paragraph is identical to three or four I have gotten from other people, often through mailing lists. > Thanks, > Jason That signature is forged. THAT'S not a sig, THIS is a sig: -- Keith

April 29, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Check out my photos on Facebook

by J. R. Mauro

Hopefully she stays on Twitter and doesn't find out what freenode is... On Apr 29, 2009, at 13:30, Clint Moyer <cdmoyer(a)charter.net> wrote: > But wait, don't you know that even Oprah is on Twitter? > > > ---- "J. R. Mauro" <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > ============= > Social networking sites: the AIM-virus host of the new millenium. > > Don't touch it with a stick, kids. All you need is IRC, BBS, > public_html, and an email address. > > > > On Apr 29, 2009, at 17:11, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: > >>> From: Eric Stein <eastein(a)WPI.EDU> >>> >>> I believe I speak for us all when I ask WHAT THE HELL? >> >> For a while I thought Facebook might be evil. >> >> Now I know for sure. >> >> For those (are there still some) who have not seen >> this before, be assured that Jason did not write >> this message, it is autogenerated in the name of >> anyone who gets curious enough to touch Facebook. >> >> They have tricks for getting your address list and >> using it to spam everyone from your mother to your >> boss. >> >> Don't touch it. >> >>> Hi Worcester, >> >> The cheeky autospammer addresses Worcester Linux Group >> by his first name. >> >>> I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my >>> pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as >>> a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join >>> Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own >>> profile. >> >> This paragraph is identical to three or four I have >> gotten from other people, often through mailing lists. >> >>> Thanks, >>> Jason >> >> That signature is forged. >> >> THAT'S not a sig, THIS is a sig: >> >> -- Keith >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 29, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Check out my photos on Facebook

by Ben LaVerriere

In fairness, it did require some action on Jason's part --- Facebook does have a feature (?) to email people "from your address book" at various webmail providers, but it won't do so without the user specifically providing his or her credentials and approval. More specifically, we should be upset at Jason for not noticing that WLUG isn't a person when asking Facebook to send those messages, not at Facebook for letting him do so. Peace. Ben Keith Wright wrote: >> From: Eric Stein <eastein(a)WPI.EDU> >> >> I believe I speak for us all when I ask WHAT THE HELL? >> > > For a while I thought Facebook might be evil. > > Now I know for sure. > > For those (are there still some) who have not seen > this before, be assured that Jason did not write > this message, it is autogenerated in the name of > anyone who gets curious enough to touch Facebook. > > They have tricks for getting your address list and > using it to spam everyone from your mother to your > boss. > > Don't touch it. > > >> Hi Worcester, >> > > The cheeky autospammer addresses Worcester Linux Group > by his first name. > > >> I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my >> pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as >> a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join >> Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own >> profile. >> > > This paragraph is identical to three or four I have > gotten from other people, often through mailing lists. > > >> Thanks, >> Jason >> > > That signature is forged. > > THAT'S not a sig, THIS is a sig: > > -- Keith > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 29, 2009

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