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Re: [Wlug] OMG this thing was expensive

by Mike Peckar

This sparked my curiosity, so I looked up the original list price for the HP 9000 J210 running HPUX someone on this list gave me nearly 10 years ago (and I still use occasionally). I found specs for a similar unit that had half as much disk (2GB), only one 120MHZ CPU vs. the 2 on mine and 1/4 the RAM (64MB)... That beast listed for $85,380 in 1996. Wow indeed. Mike

May 10, 2010

Re: [Wlug] How do I identify the DSIMM sizes?

by Ken Jones

NEVER MIND - I got it. 501-2622 is a 32Meg DSIMM. I found it in microprint on a card and I found it referenced in the ULTRA1 Creator Service Manual Thanks for being there. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Jones To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Cc: John Stoffel Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:42 PM Subject: How do I identify the DSIMM sizes? There seems to be no identification markings on the DSIMM cards. I know they come in 4Meg and 16Meg sizes (at least). I have two kinds of cards. One has all 18 memory DIPs on one side. The other has ten on one side and eight on the other. The SUN Service Manuals give not hint on identifying anything. (Even the model of the whole unit as far as I can figure.) Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Jones To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Cc: John Stoffel Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 2:18 PM Subject: OMG this thing was expensive Hello again, I've finally gotten around to fixing my SPARC ULTRA 1 machine. It's cpu fan is fried. I have a SPARC ULTRA 1 CREATOR that works with UBUNTU linux but I never got X-WINDOWS working on it. The working SPARC has been my home file server for all these many years. It had Aurora Linux with X all working fine. I figured I would do some swapping. Although the outsides are identical the two machines differ inside. The CREATOR has no cpu fan - just cooling fins. Good, I guess. I had no Service Manuals for either machine so I went to Wikipedia. It has the manuals. It also said, "The Ultra 1 Creator3D 170E launched in November 1995 with a list price of US$27,995." WOW!! QUESTION: If I move from the ULTRA1 to the ULTRA1 CREATOR the SIMMs in bank one and the hard drive should everything come up per before the crash? Thanks for thinking about this. Twenty Seven Thousand Bucks WOW!! Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.14950) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 10, 2010

How do I identify the DSIMM sizes?

by Ken Jones

There seems to be no identification markings on the DSIMM cards. I know they come in 4Meg and 16Meg sizes (at least). I have two kinds of cards. One has all 18 memory DIPs on one side. The other has ten on one side and eight on the other. The SUN Service Manuals give not hint on identifying anything. (Even the model of the whole unit as far as I can figure.) Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Jones To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Cc: John Stoffel Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 2:18 PM Subject: OMG this thing was expensive Hello again, I've finally gotten around to fixing my SPARC ULTRA 1 machine. It's cpu fan is fried. I have a SPARC ULTRA 1 CREATOR that works with UBUNTU linux but I never got X-WINDOWS working on it. The working SPARC has been my home file server for all these many years. It had Aurora Linux with X all working fine. I figured I would do some swapping. Although the outsides are identical the two machines differ inside. The CREATOR has no cpu fan - just cooling fins. Good, I guess. I had no Service Manuals for either machine so I went to Wikipedia. It has the manuals. It also said, "The Ultra 1 Creator3D 170E launched in November 1995 with a list price of US$27,995." WOW!! QUESTION: If I move from the ULTRA1 to the ULTRA1 CREATOR the SIMMs in bank one and the hard drive should everything come up per before the crash? Thanks for thinking about this. Twenty Seven Thousand Bucks WOW!! Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.14950) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 10, 2010

Re: [Wlug] OMG this thing was expensive

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Ken" == Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> writes: Ken> I've finally gotten around to fixing my SPARC ULTRA 1 machine. Ken> It's cpu fan is fried. I have a SPARC ULTRA 1 CREATOR that works Ken> with UBUNTU linux but I never got X-WINDOWS working on it. The Ken> working SPARC has been my home file server for all these many Ken> years. It had Aurora Linux with X all working fine. I figured I Ken> would do some swapping. Ken> Although the outsides are identical the two machines differ Ken> inside. The CREATOR has no cpu fan - just cooling fins. Good, I Ken> guess. I had no Service Manuals for either machine so I went to Ken> Wikipedia. It has the manuals. It also said, "The Ultra 1 Ken> Creator3D 170E launched in November 1995 with a list price of Ken> US$27,995." WOW!! Heh, I'm not suprised. We had an Encore Multimax at WPI way back when. $250k when it arrived (24 processors, 64Mb of RAM) and when it left three years later, we sold it for $25k. Talk about depreciation! Ken> QUESTION: If I move from the ULTRA1 to the ULTRA1 CREATOR the Ken> SIMMs in bank one and the hard drive should everything come up Ken> per before the crash? Probably. The only real difference is the graphics card in there, and that you're going up 30Mhz in speed to 170Mhz. Blinding. Again, I'd probably start seriously thiniing about moving to newer hardware, esp since you can get stuff without any moving parts which will be so much faster. But hey, I understand the joy of old hardware that just runs and runs and runs... Ken> Thanks for thinking about this. Twenty Seven Thousand Bucks WOW!! Thank you Mr. Moore!

May 9, 2010

OMG this thing was expensive

by Ken Jones

Hello again, I've finally gotten around to fixing my SPARC ULTRA 1 machine. It's cpu fan is fried. I have a SPARC ULTRA 1 CREATOR that works with UBUNTU linux but I never got X-WINDOWS working on it. The working SPARC has been my home file server for all these many years. It had Aurora Linux with X all working fine. I figured I would do some swapping. Although the outsides are identical the two machines differ inside. The CREATOR has no cpu fan - just cooling fins. Good, I guess. I had no Service Manuals for either machine so I went to Wikipedia. It has the manuals. It also said, "The Ultra 1 Creator3D 170E launched in November 1995 with a list price of US$27,995." WOW!! QUESTION: If I move from the ULTRA1 to the ULTRA1 CREATOR the SIMMs in bank one and the hard drive should everything come up per before the crash? Thanks for thinking about this. Twenty Seven Thousand Bucks WOW!! Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.14950) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 9, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Meeting Wednesday May 12 7PM

by Doug Chamberlin

On 5/6/2010 10:31 PM, Frank Sweetser wrote: > That's quite a collection - maybe we should only raffle away two or > three per meeting to make 'em last? Maybe. As long as someone else takes them home from this meeting. After all, my goal is to be rid of them. ;) I'll leave it up to Chuck how to handle it.

May 7, 2010

Re: [Wlug] Meeting Wednesday May 12 7PM

by Frank Sweetser

On 5/6/2010 10:25 PM, Doug Chamberlin wrote: > I'll be bringing about 30 technical books I'm giving away for free. > Not sure how to handle it but maybe a raffle to determine order in which > they are taken. > Nothing fancy. Just trying to be fair. > Not that these will cause a mad rush or anything. > Anyway, here's a picture of them: > http://s754.photobucket.com/albums/xx181/greymont/?action=view&current=Avai… That's quite a collection - maybe we should only raffle away two or three per meeting to make 'em last? -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

May 7, 2010

Meeting Wednesday May 12 7PM

by Doug Chamberlin

I'll be bringing about 30 technical books I'm giving away for free. Not sure how to handle it but maybe a raffle to determine order in which they are taken. Nothing fancy. Just trying to be fair. Not that these will cause a mad rush or anything. Anyway, here's a picture of them: http://s754.photobucket.com/albums/xx181/greymont/?action=view&current=Avai…

May 7, 2010

Re: [Wlug] My SUN ULTRA ONE died!

by John Stoffel

So Ken, What did you end up doing with your Ultra 1? John

May 6, 2010

Announce: WLUG Meeting Wednesday May 12 7PM

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, Our next WLUG meeting is scheduled to be held on Wednesday, May 12 at 7:00 PM in Morgan Hall at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. I'm pleased to announce that Jeff Moyer from Red Hat will be our guest speaker. He will be giving a talk on Solid-State Drive technology (SSDs): A Complete Guide to SSDs This talk explains the inner workings of solid state storage technology in an easy to understand manner. The innate properties of NAND flash are discussed in the context of current disk scheduling methodologies. Benchmark results comparing SSDs and traditional rotating media are presented. The talk further outlines changes in the Linux kernel and file system utilities that have been made to accommodate SSDs, and changes that are on their way. Finally, guidance is given on practical deployment of SSDs, including file system creation and mount options, I/O scheduler selection, and answers to some frequently asked questions. I look forward to seeing you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

May 4, 2010