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Re: [Wlug] bug report

by Josh Huber

Bill Mills-Curran <subssn594(a)charter.net> writes: > BTW, I'm running RedHat 7.1. So, who do I tell? Well, in case you haven't done anything about this yet, sending a report to the linux-kernel list might be a good idea. Run that oops message through ksymoops first, running with the same kernel which caused the oops messages: ksymoops < file_with_oops_in_it and send the output with a description of the problem to the list. Also, after running it through ksymoops, you might browse the lists to see if it's already been reported. ttyl, -- Josh Huber

April 29, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Whee! MIT Flea

by Chuck Haines

If you are looking for a WM, I highly suggest either fluxbox or blackbox (with Fluxbox being the better choice) with the -no-kde and -no-gnome options. On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 09:58, desdinova(a)soupforare.net wrote: > ::Dances around:: > Got so much great swag at the flea this time ^_^; > > Anyway, I picked up two Dolch 486DX/33s, on board scsi, 32meg > for $15. > It's been a loooong time since I've run linux on a 486 (slack > 2.something, iirc) > I'm thinking Debian potato would be alright? I most likely won't > install X, but if I do, I'll use X3.foo with a minimalist > windowmanager... Any suggestions? > > It's going to be alot of shoehorning for sure. > I won't lie, I haven't ran a linux system since my P200 died, she > was a fileserver and random-use machine. So, getting these > running would be great so I could fool around at work during slow > hours. > > Thanks, > James > KB1FJQ > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- --------------------------------------------- | Chuck Haines | AIM: CyberGrex | | GDC Webmaster | ICQ: 3707881 | | WPILA Lab Manager | MSN: CyberGrex | | chaines(a)wpi.edu | Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 | --------------------------------------------- Geek by nature, Linux by choice.

April 24, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Regarding M$ enforcement of licenses...

by Simoncini, Matthew

Hello, It's kind of interesting that an email about this very topic landed in my inbox this morning. Here's the link: http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/filters/specialreport/0,14622,6022528 ,00.html Good luck. Matthew On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 07:44:37 -0400, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: >In case you haven't heard, M$ is auditing a dozen or so large school >districts for compliance on licensing. Of course, this will be ugly and >will run one district an estimated $1,000,000 per year to comply with >M$. That's $1,000,000 more then they pay now. M$ is offering a simplified >arrangement whereby a school system pays a flat fee for every Intel box >(regardless of what it might actually be running) that would run that same >district about $30,000. You can see where this is headed! > >Aside from noting that people's dishonesty about paying the real costs >associated with M$ software has gotten them into this trouble (if only >because the real costs are not apparent to "management"), I'm wondering >what is available as a real alternative to M$ for the great unwashed masses. > >Of course, the answer I would expect to hear is "Linux!", but... > >I'm talking about a solution that is useable by those who are not rabid >members of a LUG, or Sys admins in their day job. I'm talking about >productivity software that will seamlessly read and write M$ file formats >(Excel, Word, etc.). I don't know, for example, if Star Office is a real >alternative because I don't know how well it interoperates with those who >use Word, for example, on a daily basis. Perhaps there is a solution that >will reliably run M$ applications without having to buy the OS, but that is >only a step in the right direction. > >I was hoping to hear suggestions about what is out there and if Linux is >ready to work seamlessly in heterogeneous High-Tech world. This might be a >good topic for one of the WLUG meetings... > >Steve > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Regarding M$ enforcement of licenses...

by avedis＠ma.ultranet.com

On 23 Apr 2002, at 7:44, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > will run one district an estimated $1,000,000 per year to comply with > M$. That's $1,000,000 more then they pay now. M$ is offering a simplified So what would be the comparable costs for linux boxes and a sysadmin's salary, either part or full time? Maybe the schools don't even know that Linux is an option, and we should tell them. Imagine a whole generation of kids raised on Linux instead of MS. > I was hoping to hear suggestions about what is out there and if Linux is What about LindowsOS? Greg Avedissian

April 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Regarding M$ enforcement of licenses...

by The Greater Worcester Land Trust

Star Office in its various iterations is pretty damn solid, and that is after using three different releases over the years. There are occassional glitches in representation of the same document between M$ and SO, but to be fair to the SO suite there are occassional glitches in representation of the same document between M$ and M$ (assuming you are not trapped from even opening the document in the first place.) Also the filters to Word Perfect etc etc are two way filters (not import only) and allow kids who have family computers running alternative software more flexibility. The other benefit of SO (and OO if you decide that the admin is up to a little more complexity (and you seem to imply that they are not)) is that they can run it on their Win boxes and dabble in Linux without causing confusion to the office suite end user. That makes it possible for them to consider jumping ship in a silent revolution should they build up the confidence. Just some thoughts to ignore. Colin On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 07:44:37 -0400, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: >In case you haven't heard, M$ is auditing a dozen or so large school >districts for compliance on licensing. Of course, this will be ugly and >will run one district an estimated $1,000,000 per year to comply with >M$. That's $1,000,000 more then they pay now. M$ is offering a simplified >arrangement whereby a school system pays a flat fee for every Intel box >(regardless of what it might actually be running) that would run that same >district about $30,000. You can see where this is headed! > >Aside from noting that people's dishonesty about paying the real costs >associated with M$ software has gotten them into this trouble (if only >because the real costs are not apparent to "management"), I'm wondering >what is available as a real alternative to M$ for the great unwashed masses. > >Of course, the answer I would expect to hear is "Linux!", but... > >I'm talking about a solution that is useable by those who are not rabid >members of a LUG, or Sys admins in their day job. I'm talking about >productivity software that will seamlessly read and write M$ file formats >(Excel, Word, etc.). I don't know, for example, if Star Office is a real >alternative because I don't know how well it interoperates with those who >use Word, for example, on a daily basis. Perhaps there is a solution that >will reliably run M$ applications without having to buy the OS, but that is >only a step in the right direction. > >I was hoping to hear suggestions about what is out there and if Linux is >ready to work seamlessly in heterogeneous High-Tech world. This might be a >good topic for one of the WLUG meetings... > >Steve > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Regarding M$ enforcement of licenses...

by desdinova＠soupforare.net

On 23 Apr 2002, at 7:44, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > In case you haven't heard, M$ is auditing a dozen or so large school > districts for compliance on licensing. Of course, this will be ugly > and will run one district an estimated $1,000,000 per year to comply > with M$. That's $1,000,000 more then they pay now. M$ is offering a > simplified arrangement whereby a school system pays a flat fee for > every Intel box (regardless of what it might actually be running) that > would run that same district about $30,000. You can see where this is > headed! <snip> Actually, I believe it's every box, regardless of manufacturer. (ie apples too) James

April 23, 2002

Regarding M$ enforcement of licenses...

by Stephen C. Daukas

In case you haven't heard, M$ is auditing a dozen or so large school districts for compliance on licensing. Of course, this will be ugly and will run one district an estimated $1,000,000 per year to comply with M$. That's $1,000,000 more then they pay now. M$ is offering a simplified arrangement whereby a school system pays a flat fee for every Intel box (regardless of what it might actually be running) that would run that same district about $30,000. You can see where this is headed! Aside from noting that people's dishonesty about paying the real costs associated with M$ software has gotten them into this trouble (if only because the real costs are not apparent to "management"), I'm wondering what is available as a real alternative to M$ for the great unwashed masses. Of course, the answer I would expect to hear is "Linux!", but... I'm talking about a solution that is useable by those who are not rabid members of a LUG, or Sys admins in their day job. I'm talking about productivity software that will seamlessly read and write M$ file formats (Excel, Word, etc.). I don't know, for example, if Star Office is a real alternative because I don't know how well it interoperates with those who use Word, for example, on a daily basis. Perhaps there is a solution that will reliably run M$ applications without having to buy the OS, but that is only a step in the right direction. I was hoping to hear suggestions about what is out there and if Linux is ready to work seamlessly in heterogeneous High-Tech world. This might be a good topic for one of the WLUG meetings... Steve

April 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Whee! MIT Flea

by Bill Smith

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:58:16 -0400 desdinova(a)soupforare.net wrote: DN> I'm thinking Debian potato would be alright? I most likely won't DN> install X, but if I do, I'll use X3.foo with a minimalist DN> windowmanager... Any suggestions? take a look at WindowMaker. It's been a favorite of mine for a LONG time. You can take a look at it at www.windowmaker.org . +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | William Smith wsmith at chezsmith dot com | | Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | I'm not crazy, I've just been in a very | | bad mood for 30 years. | | * TAG! v2.2 * | +--------------------------------------------------------------+

April 23, 2002

RE: [Wlug] shot power supply?

by dibb_jim＠emc.com

Most drives require +5 and + 12 volt supplies. Some newer (very new) drives only require +12V. -----Original Message----- From: bryon3245(a)netzero.com [mailto:bryon3245@netzero.com] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 1:54 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] shot power supply? I have a Dell Dimension 4100 and I am pretty sure that the power supply is shot. I was wondering if there are any tests that I can do to make sure that it is the power supply and not something else. I am sure that there is nothing wrong with the power cord. When I plug in the cord and push the power button nothing happens and nothing lights up. I was also wondering why there are four cords going to each drive. I know it needs a positive and negative and posibly a ground but what is the last one for. What does each cord do? Is it possible to replace it with a generic PSU becuase i heard that only dell ones will work with a dell computer. Thanks -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 22, 2002

shot power supply?

by bryon3245＠netzero.com

I have a Dell Dimension 4100 and I am pretty sure that the power supply is shot. I was wondering if there are any tests that I can do to make sure that it is the power supply and not something else. I am sure that there is nothing wrong with the power cord. When I plug in the cord and push the power button nothing happens and nothing lights up. I was also wondering why there are four cords going to each drive. I know it needs a positive and negative and posibly a ground but what is the last one for. What does each cord do? Is it possible to replace it with a generic PSU becuase i heard that only dell ones will work with a dell computer. Thanks -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

April 22, 2002