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Re: [Wlug] Pascal madness?

by Doug Chamberlin

At 07/25/2002 09:03 PM (Thursday), desdinova(a)soupforare.net wrote: >I'm trying to teach myself pascal. What with the new release of Freepascal, >and what with Delphi6/Kylix being out, I figure I should get something done >while I'm out pounding pavement. >Anyone know of any used book stores that have a decent computer section? The Micro Center book section (in Cambridge) has probably the best selection. Still not good, though, for Pascal books. Be aware that the historical Pascal you may have been exposed to as a student in the past has changed considerably over the years. Borland has "owned" Pascal for over a decade and defined more extensions than there were original language constructs. The current "Delphi Pascal" is far closer to C++ than any other single language and is as completely object oriented as C++ is. This is the "Pascal" of Kylix and is a truly useful language since it retains much of the useful type-safe, single pass attributes of the original Pascal effort. Even with the rich features now available you will not find a faster compile-test-fix-compile cycle anywhere for a fully compiled language. All the other current open source efforts are trying for compatibility with this de facto standard. Therefore, if you find a book on Kylix you should do well learning about the whole group.

July 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Pascal madness?

by Josh Huber

Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> writes: > python, perl, tcl, ruby(I've heard great things bout ruby), Yeah, ruby is fun. I highly recommend it! -- Josh Huber

July 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Pascal madness?

by Karl Hiramoto

Madness is right. Use your time on something more usefull such as ANYTHING ELSE :) python, perl, tcl, ruby(I've heard great things bout ruby), If your a beginner, i'd say learn C. On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 desdinova(a)soupforare.net wrote: > yeah.... > I'm trying to teach myself pascal. What with the new release of Freepascal, > and what with Delphi6/Kylix being out, I figure I should get something done > while I'm out pounding pavement. > Anyone know of any used book stores that have a decent computer section? > I tried Another Story on Stafford St., but he didn't have anything for pascal. :( > > Any help is appreciated, > Thanks > James > KB1FJQ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Is he the MAGIC INCA carrying a FROG on his shoulders?? Is the FROG his GUIDELIGHT?? It is curious that a DOG runs already on the ESCALATOR ...

July 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Pascal madness?

by doug waud

Hi desdinova(a)soupforare.net wrote: > > yeah.... > I'm trying to teach myself pascal. What with the new release of Freepascal, > and what with Delphi6/Kylix being out, I figure I should get something done > while I'm out pounding pavement. > Anyone know of any used book stores that have a decent computer section? > I tried Another Story on Stafford St., but he didn't have anything for pascal. :( > > Any help is appreciated, I have a couple of Pascal books (forget which specifically, I'm up at the cottage and they are down in Mass) which you are welcome to borrow as long as I have a fighting chance of getting them back some time (no rush at all). If you are interested, let me know fairly soon since I shall be coming down to Shrewsbury tomorrow (Friday evening) for the weekend (the kids in our house are coming up here). doug

July 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Pascal madness?

by Charles R. Anderson

I have an old book on the USCD P-system... :) -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

July 26, 2002

Pascal madness?

by desdinova＠soupforare.net

yeah.... I'm trying to teach myself pascal. What with the new release of Freepascal, and what with Delphi6/Kylix being out, I figure I should get something done while I'm out pounding pavement. Anyone know of any used book stores that have a decent computer section? I tried Another Story on Stafford St., but he didn't have anything for pascal. :( Any help is appreciated, Thanks James KB1FJQ

July 26, 2002

NFS, anyone?

by Skip Gaede

Hi, I have a server running Mandrake 8.2. I had a problem unmounting a CDROM (I hate supermount!), so I rebooted the server. On the way back up, the NFS service hung. This is now the second time this has happened. (The first time, I attributed it to students messing with the server, and reinstalled everything.) Now, after two days of getting things back to normal, it's happened again, this time sans students. I'm writing this from home, as the school's link to the Internet is down. Anyone know where the relevant state data for NFS is stashed? Thanks, Skip

July 24, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Shell Script Question

by Gary J. Hanley

On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > Pro: You don't need to use extra resources to get the job done Right. I guess that was obvious but I thought I'd ask anyway in case that wasn't as apparent as I saw it. > Con: It's not directly portable to other platforms Good point. I do most of my shell scripting at work on Solaris and portability isn't an immediate issue, but something to be aware of anyway.

July 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Shell Script Question

by Theo Van Dinter

On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 10:05:27AM -0400, Gary J. Hanley wrote: > Can anyone tell me the pros & cons of coding your shell scripts to > stay in-process instead of spawning a child process when needed? The ones that immediately come to mind: Pro: You don't need to use extra resources to get the job done Con: It's not directly portable to other platforms /bin/sh on Linux is really bash. /bin/sh everywhere else that I know of is just sh and doesn't have the capabilities. If you want to be portable, don't rely on built-ins. If you don't care, use built-ins. For example: T=/path/to/file echo $T ${T##*/} Linux: $ sh t /path/to/file file Solaris: $ sh t t: bad substitution -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "...and scantily clad females, of course. Who cares if it's below zero outside" (By Linus Torvalds)

July 23, 2002

Shell Script Question

by Gary J. Hanley

Greetings! A shell script question: Can anyone tell me the pros & cons of coding your shell scripts to stay in-process instead of spawning a child process when needed? For example, ${VARIABLE##*/} instead of `basename $VARIABLE` I'm trying to use the former as much as possible now but I wasn't exactly sure if that is better, not so safe or just doesn't matter. Thanks! -- Gary

July 23, 2002