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Re: [Wlug] Re: Success, almost, with GNOME

by Jared Greenwald

Though normally I'm a supporter of Gentoo, it can be a little complex to install and keep up to date... You might want to check out edubuntu. (http://www.edubuntu.org/) Its actually specifically designed as a Linux distro for use with kids. -Jared On 12/15/05, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Thanks everyone. I am a KDE fan also. I went to GNOME as an > experiment. I have a memory leak problem with CORE 3 such that every > week or so I need to reboot. (soxview shows SWAP free space slowly > getting smaller and smaller) It turned out that this behavior is > independent of windows manager. > > A question. Whom do I contact at Red Hat to propose that they help the > Fitchburg Public School District migrate to LINUX server based "best > office practices"? > > Ken Jones > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 15, 2005

Re: Success, almost, with GNOME

by Ken Jones

Thanks everyone. I am a KDE fan also. I went to GNOME as an experiment. I have a memory leak problem with CORE 3 such that every week or so I need to reboot. (soxview shows SWAP free space slowly getting smaller and smaller) It turned out that this behavior is independent of windows manager. A question. Whom do I contact at Red Hat to propose that they help the Fitchburg Public School District migrate to LINUX server based "best office practices"? Ken Jones

Dec. 15, 2005

RE: [Wlug] Success, almost, with GNOME

by Gary Hanley

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Keller, Tim wrote: > Personally, I've moved away from gnome and I've been using xfce and I've > never been happier. I've just finished moving off of Gnome too. I didn't look into xfce but I'm happier with KDE than I was with Gnome. -- Gary

Dec. 15, 2005

RE: [Wlug] Success, almost, with GNOME

by Keller, Tim

Personally, I've moved away from gnome and I've been using xfce and I've never been happier. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Jared Greenwald Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:54 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Success, almost, with GNOME On 12/15/05, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> wrote: > ==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] Success, almost, with GNOME; Jared Greenwald <greenwaldjared(a)gmail.com> adds: > > greenwaldjared> What about .gnome or .gnome2 directories? There's always > greenwaldjared> restarting the X server with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (that's > greenwaldjared> backspace, not delete). > > greenwaldjared> Not to start a flame war, but my personal recommendation > greenwaldjared> would be to switch to KDE, but I'm rather biased. KDE 3.5 > greenwaldjared> is really good. :) > > You're not alone in that recommendation. ;) > > http://lists.osdl.org/pipermail/desktop_architects/2005-December/000390. html I saw that the other day, but didn't want to drop the obvious "endorsed by..." tag line... :) _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Dec. 15, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Success, almost, with GNOME

by Jared Greenwald

On 12/15/05, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> wrote: > ==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] Success, almost, with GNOME; Jared Greenwald <greenwaldjared(a)gmail.com> adds: > > greenwaldjared> What about .gnome or .gnome2 directories? There's always > greenwaldjared> restarting the X server with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (that's > greenwaldjared> backspace, not delete). > > greenwaldjared> Not to start a flame war, but my personal recommendation > greenwaldjared> would be to switch to KDE, but I'm rather biased. KDE 3.5 > greenwaldjared> is really good. :) > > You're not alone in that recommendation. ;) > > http://lists.osdl.org/pipermail/desktop_architects/2005-December/000390.html I saw that the other day, but didn't want to drop the obvious "endorsed by..." tag line... :)

Dec. 15, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Success, almost, with GNOME

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] Success, almost, with GNOME; Jared Greenwald <greenwaldjared(a)gmail.com> adds: greenwaldjared> What about .gnome or .gnome2 directories? There's always greenwaldjared> restarting the X server with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (that's greenwaldjared> backspace, not delete). greenwaldjared> Not to start a flame war, but my personal recommendation greenwaldjared> would be to switch to KDE, but I'm rather biased. KDE 3.5 greenwaldjared> is really good. :) You're not alone in that recommendation. ;) http://lists.osdl.org/pipermail/desktop_architects/2005-December/000390.html -Jeff

Dec. 15, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Success, almost, with GNOME

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding [Wlug] Success, almost, with GNOME; Ken Jones <jonesj(a)ziplink.net> adds: jonesj> Per the suggestion of Chuck Anderson I logged in under a new jonesj> account. GNOME desktop worked just as it should. So I removed all jonesj> of the /home/kjones/.gconf directory and logged in again as myself. jonesj> Still it did not work correctly. In particular the right click on jonesj> empty space did not work. jonesj> I did a "diff -r" on the two (now default versions I suppose) jonesj> .gconf directories. They seemed the same save for unique jonesj> identifiers. Where do I look to find the differences? I think you might want to poke around in the .gnome directory. Try the diff between the new user's .gnome and yours. jonesj> One other question. The Applications launcher on GNOME does not jonesj> contain the LOG OUT feature. I know the command "shutdown", but I jonesj> can not find a command to Log Out. Is there one? What is it? It's under the Desktop launcher on my Fedora system. -Jeff

Dec. 15, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Success, almost, with GNOME

by Jared Greenwald

What about .gnome or .gnome2 directories? There's always restarting the X server with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (that's backspace, not delete). Not to start a flame war, but my personal recommendation would be to switch to KDE, but I'm rather biased. KDE 3.5 is really good. :) On 12/12/05, Ken Jones <jonesj(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Per the suggestion of Chuck Anderson I logged in under a new account. > GNOME desktop worked just as it should. So I removed all of the > /home/kjones/.gconf directory and logged in again as myself. > > Still it did not work correctly. In particular the right click on empty > space did not work. > > I did a "diff -r" on the two (now default versions I suppose) .gconf > directories. They seemed the same save for unique identifiers. Where > do I look to find the differences? > > One other question. The Applications launcher on GNOME does not contain > the LOG OUT feature. I know the command "shutdown", but I can not find > a command to Log Out. Is there one? What is it? > > Ken Jones > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 15, 2005

Links from tonights meeting

by Frank Sweetser

Some of the links that were mentioned in tonights rambling meeting: isc.sans.org Internet Storm Center. A bunch of internet security professionals publishing a diary about major trends in online security. www.thedailywtf.com The Daily "What The F**k?" A programmer oriented blog of "Curious Perversions in Information Technology". -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

Dec. 15, 2005

Re: [Wlug] getting that cpu to sleep ...

by brad

I looked into rt-linux. It appears that your real time process doesn't actually run as a process but as a kernel module. Unfortunately this would disrupt the flow of my program, but i'll keep this in the back of my head for the next version. Thanks for the suggestion. --Brad On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 09:26:51PM -0500, Keith Wright wrote: > > From: brad <maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu> > > > > > The immediate task at hand is that i want to get readings from > > an instrument (a light sensor) at a uniform interval, say every > > 1000 micro seconds. I have been able to achieve this task by > > setting up the loop i described above. However the loop above > > takes 99% of the CPU. I'd like to be able to achieve this > > without pegging the CPU at 99%. Does this make sense? if not i > > can try explaining it again, perhaps with some code. > > > > The kernel i'm running is 2.6.12. (well uname -r reports > > '2.6.12-9-686-smp.' its ubuntu's stock smp kernel.) > > You are doing something that Linux was not designed to do. > But don't despair, you are not the first one. > There is RT-Linux, (Real-Time Linux), which consists of > a real-time scheduler (meaning that it is designed to schedule > tasks with non-negotiable time constraints), which treats the > entire Linux kernel as a background task. > > Assuming your raw processor speed is sufficient (without which > you lose no matter what you do), the RT-Linux scheduler will > run your special task at guaranteed intervals, while any network, > disk I/O, web browsing, etc. that you need to do can use the > Linux system in the cracks between. > > Also the embedded Linux project and uCLinux (microComputer) > Linux might be interesting. Give any of these terms to > Google and get back more than you can read, but here is > a link to get started: > > http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT3694406595.html > > > -- Keith > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 14, 2005