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Re: Virtual meeting today! Starting at 7pm, via Jitsi!!

by Rob Evans

Me too. I was in & out briefly, but did not have camera or microphone on my desktop computer. I hope to participate more in the future. - Bob Evans On 4/9/20 6:59 PM, Joel via WLUG wrote: > Hi All, > > Not going to make it to tonight's conference. > > Hope you are all well, > > Joel >

April 9, 2020

Re: Virtual meeting today! Starting at 7pm, via Jitsi!!

by Keith Wright

Joel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Not going to make it to tonight's conference. Neither will I. I think I approve of Jitsi, but I need all the computers to keep working. I am afraid to try something new, for fear of breaking something. I have never used the camera on this laptop. I did no preparation nor downloaded anything, but for the L of it I put the URL into the browser, https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA. It displays a grey rectangle. Tell the mailing list how it worked. -- Keith

April 9, 2020

Re: Virtual meeting today! Starting at 7pm, via Jitsi!!

by Joel

Hi All, Not going to make it to tonight's conference. Hope you are all well, Joel On April 9, 2020 9:01:32 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > We've got a virtual meeting today! > > We're all going to meet on Jitsi! Here's the location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > > The big blue button stuff looks really awesome, but I haven't had a chance to dig into it, however for presenting it looks pretty awesome. > > I hope everybody is staying sane and staying safe. > > Later, > Tim Keller > WLUG President > > > > -- > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/24SLW…

April 9, 2020

Virtual meeting today! Starting at 7pm, via Jitsi!!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, We've got a virtual meeting today! We're all going to meet on Jitsi! Here's the location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA The big blue button stuff looks really awesome, but I haven't had a chance to dig into it, however for presenting it looks pretty awesome. I hope everybody is staying sane and staying safe. Later, Tim Keller WLUG President -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 9, 2020

Re: April WLUG meeting to be online

by Stephen Thamel

Hey Pete - I would be interested in the 580 and the R415s. I can come by tomorrow when convenient. Let me know if that works for you. On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 1:07 PM Pete Wason via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hi! When is the meeting? > > BTW, I have *piles* of (mostly Dell) hardware for sale (donation? either > is overly complicated..). Everything from an old > Dimension E530 desktop to a Poweredge R515 with 12TB of internal disk > (both already running CentOS 6.10). A whole roomfull of > Optiplex 740s and 580s, an R300, two R415s, etc. In a few weeks I'll also > have a couple of Synology RS2416+ units with > expansion chassis. I can forward a complete list if anyone is interested. > Most of the equipment is in Worcester, where I work. > > Stay safe! > Pete in Sutton > > > > On 3/31/2020 10:34 AM, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > > > I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need > virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals. > > > > As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online. > > I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others. > > > > What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup? > > > > Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!! > > > > Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon. > > > > Later, > > Tim. > > > > > > -- > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/LNHAH… > > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/53TKE… >

April 8, 2020

Re: April WLUG meeting to be online

by Pete Wason

Hi! When is the meeting? BTW, I have *piles* of (mostly Dell) hardware for sale (donation? either is overly complicated..). Everything from an old Dimension E530 desktop to a Poweredge R515 with 12TB of internal disk (both already running CentOS 6.10). A whole roomfull of Optiplex 740s and 580s, an R300, two R415s, etc. In a few weeks I'll also have a couple of Synology RS2416+ units with expansion chassis. I can forward a complete list if anyone is interested. Most of the equipment is in Worcester, where I work. Stay safe! Pete in Sutton On 3/31/2020 10:34 AM, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > Hey Gang, > > I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals. > > As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online. > I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others. > > What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup? > > Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!! > > Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon. > > Later, > Tim. > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/LNHAH… >

April 8, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: [EXT] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ?

by joshua.gage.stone＠gmail.com

I've recently learned about BigBlueButton, which is designed around teaching with features like slideshow integration and session recordings (currently disabled due to increased demand though). I think this could work well for us seeing as we tend to do presentations hosted our own computers anyway. This demo looks quite promising: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hso8yLzkqj8 BBB and other communication solutions endorsed as being FOSS-friendly are listed here as well: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Remote_Communication -Josh On Thu, 2020-04-02 at 14:05 +0000, Krichevsky, Nicholas J. via WLUG wrote: > So this isn't free "as in beer" but I just saw > https://wire.com/en/ mentioned on HackerNews today. Source code is > GPL3, but it looks like they handle the hosting for 4 > euro/user/month. They mention in their FAQ that you can self-host, > but it sounds like you still have to pay to do that. Not sure if > they have a guide to just run it yourself but I'm sure you can... > you have the source... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most secure collaboration platform · Wire > > Wire is actively leading the work on extending its security standards > to become the norm for protecting organizations' digital assets. > Messaging Layer Security (MLS) is a new protocol designed to firm up > the security of enterprise messaging platforms by employing > end-to-end encryption within group communication. > > wire.com > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Chris Thompson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:34 PM > > To: wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > > Cc: Chris Thompson <wolcen(a)riseup.net> > > Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Re: [EXT] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ? > > > > > I know it's been mentioned, but wanted to point to two instances of > it I use frequently and offer some additional feedback. > There's the "premier" one, which is at > > https://meet.jit.si/ and is very often running the very latest > version. > The Mayfirst COOP also hosts an instance at > > https://meet.mayfirst.org/ This doesn't tend to be upgraded quite so > frequently, so unless it lands on a poor version, it's a great one to > use. > > > Usually "just works" on phone/desktop fine. It can be a little > glitchy, and has not often performed very well for my coop more than > about 10 participants or so. Desktop sharing, video, audio, and chat > as well > as other features all function well on GNU/Linux save for some > difficulty I had with Sway WM/Wayland (which may well have been my > shortcoming). I'm not sure how dependent the limits we've seen are > dependent upon the infrastructure available, but I'm told it's > not terribly difficult to deploy an instance, but have yet to try > myself. > > > FWIW, nearly every time, a quick page refresh (or two) for whomever > is having issues gets things working. > TBH, it's best to have a backup connection when using Jitsi (i.e. > text msg, etherpad, or IRC or whatever), or else to work with more > experienced users - e.g. those that will notice a message/open the > chat pane > to read that they cannot be heard and to either un-mute or else > refresh their page. > --Chris > > > On 3/25/20 11:53 AM, Bradley Noyes via WLUG wrote: > > > > I have never used this software, but apparently nextcloud can do > > some kind of video conferencing with their package call “spreed" > > > > > > > > https://github.com/nextcloud/spreed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:55, Krichevsky, Nicholas J. via WLUG < > > > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much do you care about it being *VIDEO* by the way? If it's > > > not important, there's always Mumble... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get > > > Outlook for Android > > > > > > From: Michael Voorhis via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:53:52 AM > > > > > > To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion < > > > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > > > > > > Cc: Voorhis, Michael C <mvoorhis(a)wpi.edu>; Joshua Stone < > > > joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com> > > > > > > Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/25/20 10:38 AM, Joshua Stone via WLUG wrote: > > > > > > > Zoom is a good option if using a Pro subscription. > > > > > > > > > > > > We're digressing a bit from the discussion-topic which is *free* > > > > > > videoconferencing. My email was in retrospect ambiguous; I made > > > > > > assumptions based on the listenership of my email. > > > > > > > > > > > > I was asking about FOSS videoconferencing. Jitsi appears to be > > > the only > > > > > > answer at this point. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks all, > > > > > > > > > > > > --MCV. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > > wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > > > > > Create Account: > > > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… > > > > > > Change Settings: > > > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… > > > > > > Web Forum/Archive: > > > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > > wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > > > > > Create Account: > > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > > > > > Change Settings: > > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > > > > > Web Forum/Archive: > > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/4ER6X… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________WLUG mailing list -- > > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/UH6HX… > > > > > > > _______________________________________________WLUG mailing list -- > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/OSZK4…

April 4, 2020

Does LINUX still exist?

by Ken Jones

I am trying for figure out what, if anything, of FEDORA RED HAT LINUX is still available. I have downloaded a DVD that I plan to install on my DELL XPS desktop PC running WINDOWS 10. Will it find for me my old LINUX atmosphere? Ken Jones

April 3, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: [EXT] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ?

by Krichevsky, Nicholas J.

So this isn't free "as in beer" but I just saw https://wire.com/en/ mentioned on HackerNews today. Source code is GPL3, but it looks like they handle the hosting for 4 euro/user/month. They mention in their FAQ that you can self-host, but it sounds like you still have to pay to do that. Not sure if they have a guide to just run it yourself but I'm sure you can... you have the source... [https://wire-docs.wire.com/kalina/wire-icon.png]<https://wire.com/en/> The most secure collaboration platform · Wire<https://wire.com/en/> Wire is actively leading the work on extending its security standards to become the norm for protecting organizations' digital assets. Messaging Layer Security (MLS) is a new protocol designed to firm up the security of enterprise messaging platforms by employing end-to-end encryption within group communication. wire.com ________________________________ From: Chris Thompson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:34 PM To: wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Cc: Chris Thompson <wolcen(a)riseup.net> Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Re: [EXT] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ? I know it's been mentioned, but wanted to point to two instances of it I use frequently and offer some additional feedback. There's the "premier" one, which is at https://meet.jit.si/<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeet.jit.…> and is very often running the very latest version. The Mayfirst COOP also hosts an instance at https://meet.mayfirst.org/<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeet.mayf…> This doesn't tend to be upgraded quite so frequently, so unless it lands on a poor version, it's a great one to use. Usually "just works" on phone/desktop fine. It can be a little glitchy, and has not often performed very well for my coop more than about 10 participants or so. Desktop sharing, video, audio, and chat as well as other features all function well on GNU/Linux save for some difficulty I had with Sway WM/Wayland (which may well have been my shortcoming). I'm not sure how dependent the limits we've seen are dependent upon the infrastructure available, but I'm told it's not terribly difficult to deploy an instance, but have yet to try myself. FWIW, nearly every time, a quick page refresh (or two) for whomever is having issues gets things working. TBH, it's best to have a backup connection when using Jitsi (i.e. text msg, etherpad, or IRC or whatever), or else to work with more experienced users - e.g. those that will notice a message/open the chat pane to read that they cannot be heard and to either un-mute or else refresh their page. --Chris On 3/25/20 11:53 AM, Bradley Noyes via WLUG wrote: I have never used this software, but apparently nextcloud can do some kind of video conferencing with their package call “spreed" https://github.com/nextcloud/spreed<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.co…> On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:55, Krichevsky, Nicholas J. via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> wrote: How much do you care about it being *VIDEO* by the way? If it's not important, there's always Mumble... Get Outlook for Android<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2F…> ________________________________ From: Michael Voorhis via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:53:52 AM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> Cc: Voorhis, Michael C <mvoorhis(a)wpi.edu<mailto:mvoorhis@wpi.edu>>; Joshua Stone <joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com<mailto:joshua.gage.stone@gmail.com>> Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ? On 3/25/20 10:38 AM, Joshua Stone via WLUG wrote: > Zoom is a good option if using a Pro subscription. We're digressing a bit from the discussion-topic which is *free* videoconferencing. My email was in retrospect ambiguous; I made assumptions based on the listenership of my email. I was asking about FOSS videoconferencing. Jitsi appears to be the only answer at this point. Thanks all, --MCV. _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> Create Account: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…> Change Settings: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…> Web Forum/Archive: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…> _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/4ER6X…<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…> _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/UH6HX…<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…>

April 2, 2020

Re: [EXT] April WLUG meeting to be online

by THE HAMMER

Can you advise the group on instructions to join in when/if possible? ________________________________ From: Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 9:31 AM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Cc: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu>; Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> Subject: [WLUG] Re: [EXT] April WLUG meeting to be online What fun is that ;-) On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 9:29 AM Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> wrote: Or we could just use the one they host: https://meet.jit.si/ On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 08:42:56AM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > A buddy of mine runs one. I'll pick his brains regarding what it needs for > bandwidth and horsepower. > > I suspect I've got sufficient quantities of that at my house. > > If not, I'll think about spinning up a droplet. > > Tim. > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 6:45 AM Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> > wrote: > > > Let's try Jitsi. > > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:34:37AM -0400, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > > > Hey Gang, > > > > > > I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need > > > virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals. > > > > > > As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online. > > > I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others. > > > > > > What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup? > > > > > > Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!! > > > > > > Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon. > > > > > > Later, > > > Tim. _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/R2F74… -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 1, 2020