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RE: [Wlug] RedHat 7.1 boot floppy

by Martin, Eric

My suggestion is use a gentoo live cd (go with x86 no stages). Just mount your hdx to /mnt/... -----Original Message----- From: Norm Legare [mailto:normlegare@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 3:57 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] RedHat 7.1 boot floppy Hi All, My desktop has 2 hard drives, one with Windows, one with Linux. By inserting the floppy, it boots Linux. Unfortunately, the floppy just stopped working (I get the Linux prompt, but then booting reports disk failure) for some reason. I need to retrieve several files on the Linux hard drive. I have RedHat 7.1 on cd. Can a new boot floppy be made while preserving the existing Linux installation? Thanks, Norm __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 4, 2004

Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1

by Arturo Sedo

There is also another option. If you have another computer you can burn a copy of knopix. Once you create the cd, you insert it into the CDROM drive, boot from CDROM to a nice KDE GUI and all partitions are automatically mounted. Click on the partition that has the needed info and you are good to go. It may sound complicated but Knopix has a really fine User Interface. (If you don't have a CDROM you can do the same thing with Tomsrbtb from a floppy) Then when you want to create a boot disk you can open a command window, mount the root partition and then do "chroot /mnt/rootPartition". From there you can run lilo or mkbootdisk. Good luck. Arturo On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 12:00, wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RedHat 7.1 boot floppy (Norm Legare) > 2. Re: RedHat 7.1 boot floppy (James Baldassari) > 3. RE: RedHat 7.1 boot floppy (Moti Abramovich) > 4. RE: RedHat 7.1 boot floppy (Adam Keck) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 12:56:51 -0800 (PST) > From: Norm Legare <normlegare(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: [Wlug] RedHat 7.1 boot floppy > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <20040201205651.14333.qmail(a)web13425.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi All, > > My desktop has 2 hard drives, one with Windows, one with Linux. By > inserting the floppy, it boots Linux. Unfortunately, the floppy just > stopped working (I get the Linux prompt, but then booting reports disk > failure) for some reason. I need to retrieve several files on the > Linux hard drive. I have RedHat 7.1 on cd. Can a new boot floppy > be made while preserving the existing Linux installation? > > Thanks, > Norm > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 16:18:53 -0500 (EST) > From: James Baldassari <jdb(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] RedHat 7.1 boot floppy > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0402011615590.17100(a)ccc3.WPI.EDU> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Hi Norm. You can probably find a Red Hat boot disk image somewhere (just > google it), and there are Windows utilities for writing images to > floppies. I think one of them is called rwfloppy, which I can send to you > if you can't find it. You will probably have to edit the boot disk once > it's created so that it points to your linux drive. When you get your > system back up and running I would recommend installing LILO so that you > don't run into this problem again. The newer versions of Windows also > have built-in support for booting multiple OSes. > -James > > On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Norm Legare wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > My desktop has 2 hard drives, one with Windows, one with Linux. By > > inserting the floppy, it boots Linux. Unfortunately, the floppy just > > stopped working (I get the Linux prompt, but then booting reports disk > > failure) for some reason. I need to retrieve several files on the > > Linux hard drive. I have RedHat 7.1 on cd. Can a new boot floppy > > be made while preserving the existing Linux installation? > > > > Thanks, > > Norm > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 06:12:24 -0500 > From: "Moti Abramovich" <motia(a)comcast.net> > Subject: RE: [Wlug] RedHat 7.1 boot floppy > To: "'Worcester Linux Users Group'" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <000701c3e97d$6fbfa400$0200a8c0@laptop1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Norm. > It depends what version of windows you have, but your best bet would be to > set up your windows for "dual boot" so when you boot your system, a menu > will come up and ask you which operating system you want to boot to - > Windows or Linux. > Moti > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Norm Legare > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 3:57 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] RedHat 7.1 boot floppy > > Hi All, > > My desktop has 2 hard drives, one with Windows, one with Linux. By > inserting the floppy, it boots Linux. Unfortunately, the floppy just > stopped working (I get the Linux prompt, but then booting reports disk > failure) for some reason. I need to retrieve several files on the > Linux hard drive. I have RedHat 7.1 on cd. Can a new boot floppy > be made while preserving the existing Linux installation? > > Thanks, > Norm > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: 02 Feb 2004 09:28:46 -0500 > From: Adam Keck <ghostis(a)mac.com> > Subject: RE: [Wlug] RedHat 7.1 boot floppy > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Cc: Adam Keck <ghostis(a)mac.com> > Message-ID: <1075732127.4990.17.camel@alfred> > Content-Type: text/plain > > > inserting the floppy, it boots Linux. Unfortunately, the floppy just > > stopped working (I get the Linux prompt, but then booting reports disk > > failure) for some reason. I need to retrieve several files on the > > Linux hard drive. I have RedHat 7.1 on cd. Can a new boot floppy > > be made while preserving the existing Linux installation? > > Norm, > This is no big deal if you know what hardware you have. You will need > a second linux machine to solve this so perhaps someone will agree to > drop by the next meeting with a laptop. > > 1. Get a machine with mtools, superformat and syslinux installed and a > kernel source tree. > 2. Recompile a non-modular kernel with support for your hardware and > filesystems and nothing else. > 3. Insert a floppy and then run: superformat /dev/hd0 > 4. When that's done run: syslinux /dev/fd0 > 5. Mcopy the new kernel from /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot to the > floppy: mcopy /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage a:\kernel.img > 6. Open a text file called syslinux.cfg in your favorite editor. > 7. Put the following in syslinux.cfg (with the appropriate value for > your root parition filled in): > > DEFAULT LINUX > LABEL LINUX > KERNEL kernel.img > APPEND root=/dev/{your root partition device here} > > 8. Save that file then mcopy it to the floppy: mcopy syslinux.cfg a: > 9. Reboot your machine from the floppy. > > There are other ways to do this that may be more elegant. For example > you may be able to so this on your machine by booting the rescue kernel > with the first RedHat CD and then chrooting to your environment. This > how I do it, though ;-). > > > -Adam > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1 > **********************************

Feb. 3, 2004

Re: [Wlug] RedHat 7.1 boot floppy

by Gregory Avedissian

Is it the floppy disk or the hard drive that failed? Can you boot the installed system from the cd? Or from windows with loadlin? Greg Norm Legare wrote: > Hi All, > > My desktop has 2 hard drives, one with Windows, one with Linux. By > inserting the floppy, it boots Linux. Unfortunately, the floppy just > stopped working (I get the Linux prompt, but then booting reports disk > failure) for some reason. I need to retrieve several files on the > Linux hard drive. I have RedHat 7.1 on cd. Can a new boot floppy > be made while preserving the existing Linux installation? > > Thanks, > Norm > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Feb. 2, 2004

RE: [Wlug] RedHat 7.1 boot floppy

by Adam Keck

> inserting the floppy, it boots Linux. Unfortunately, the floppy just > stopped working (I get the Linux prompt, but then booting reports disk > failure) for some reason. I need to retrieve several files on the > Linux hard drive. I have RedHat 7.1 on cd. Can a new boot floppy > be made while preserving the existing Linux installation? Norm, This is no big deal if you know what hardware you have. You will need a second linux machine to solve this so perhaps someone will agree to drop by the next meeting with a laptop. 1. Get a machine with mtools, superformat and syslinux installed and a kernel source tree. 2. Recompile a non-modular kernel with support for your hardware and filesystems and nothing else. 3. Insert a floppy and then run: superformat /dev/hd0 4. When that's done run: syslinux /dev/fd0 5. Mcopy the new kernel from /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot to the floppy: mcopy /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage a:\kernel.img 6. Open a text file called syslinux.cfg in your favorite editor. 7. Put the following in syslinux.cfg (with the appropriate value for your root parition filled in): DEFAULT LINUX LABEL LINUX KERNEL kernel.img APPEND root=/dev/{your root partition device here} 8. Save that file then mcopy it to the floppy: mcopy syslinux.cfg a: 9. Reboot your machine from the floppy. There are other ways to do this that may be more elegant. For example you may be able to so this on your machine by booting the rescue kernel with the first RedHat CD and then chrooting to your environment. This how I do it, though ;-). -Adam

Feb. 2, 2004

RE: [Wlug] RedHat 7.1 boot floppy

by Moti Abramovich

Norm. It depends what version of windows you have, but your best bet would be to set up your windows for "dual boot" so when you boot your system, a menu will come up and ask you which operating system you want to boot to - Windows or Linux. Moti -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Norm Legare Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 3:57 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] RedHat 7.1 boot floppy Hi All, My desktop has 2 hard drives, one with Windows, one with Linux. By inserting the floppy, it boots Linux. Unfortunately, the floppy just stopped working (I get the Linux prompt, but then booting reports disk failure) for some reason. I need to retrieve several files on the Linux hard drive. I have RedHat 7.1 on cd. Can a new boot floppy be made while preserving the existing Linux installation? Thanks, Norm __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 2, 2004

Re: [Wlug] RedHat 7.1 boot floppy

by James Baldassari

Hi Norm. You can probably find a Red Hat boot disk image somewhere (just google it), and there are Windows utilities for writing images to floppies. I think one of them is called rwfloppy, which I can send to you if you can't find it. You will probably have to edit the boot disk once it's created so that it points to your linux drive. When you get your system back up and running I would recommend installing LILO so that you don't run into this problem again. The newer versions of Windows also have built-in support for booting multiple OSes. -James On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Norm Legare wrote: > Hi All, > > My desktop has 2 hard drives, one with Windows, one with Linux. By > inserting the floppy, it boots Linux. Unfortunately, the floppy just > stopped working (I get the Linux prompt, but then booting reports disk > failure) for some reason. I need to retrieve several files on the > Linux hard drive. I have RedHat 7.1 on cd. Can a new boot floppy > be made while preserving the existing Linux installation? > > Thanks, > Norm > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

Feb. 1, 2004

RedHat 7.1 boot floppy

by Norm Legare

Hi All, My desktop has 2 hard drives, one with Windows, one with Linux. By inserting the floppy, it boots Linux. Unfortunately, the floppy just stopped working (I get the Linux prompt, but then booting reports disk failure) for some reason. I need to retrieve several files on the Linux hard drive. I have RedHat 7.1 on cd. Can a new boot floppy be made while preserving the existing Linux installation? Thanks, Norm __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

Feb. 1, 2004

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by jeff

Jan. 29, 2004

Re: [Wlug] RH AS 2.1?

by Theo Van Dinter

On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 01:10:52AM -0500, Keith Wright wrote: > I'm not sure exactly what you are asking for. > RH means Red Hat, no? What is AS? RedHat Enterprise Linux. AS == Advanced Server. (they also have ES and WS...) My understanding is that the software and such is basically free, but you pay for support/update systems, etc. At the moment, btw, if you were a subscriber to RHN for the RH9 and previous versions, you can get a 50% discount to goto WS or ES for 2 years. AS 2.1 is old at this point, 3 came out a few months ago. I have ES 3 on my home server, and I've started rolling out ES and AS 3 at work. So far, things look good, minus the sometimes tempermental SCSI driver on the IBM x445 series (Summit code needed, sometimes the driver decides to wind itself into a ball and freeze the box...) > I have an old CD that says Red Hat 2.1 LiNUX with the "digital" > logo. (as in Digital Equipment Corp, DEC) The files are dated > November 1995. Is that what you are talking about? I have one of those too, it was for the Alpha, and mine's autographed by Linus. ;) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: Running Windows on a Pentium is like having a brand new Porsche but only be able to drive backwards with the handbrake on. (Unknown source)

Jan. 28, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Looking for linux work estimate

by Pete Wason

Chuck Homic wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 11:33:39PM -0500, Pete Wason wrote: > >>Things I might require help with: > > > I can't help, but.... (and mind you, these are merely my OPINIONS) > > >>1. Samba config > > > Easy. Install from RPM's, and follow the instructions in > /etc/samba/smb.conf (or similar). It should take less than a few hours if > you've never done it before. Less than 30 minutes, otherwise. > Well, I've done this, but some things are not working quite right. It may have more to do with general file/dir ownership/permissions than Samba itself. But all the stuff I read never quite answers the questions I have. For example: I have a www share for my /var/www/ directory. I can access this dir, but nothing below it, and I can't write anything to it, or delete, etc. I have to transfer stuff to my home folder, and then run over to the server and copy/move the files into my /var/www/html folder... > >>2. Apache config > > > Again, install from RPMs, edit /etc/apache/httpd.conf as per the inline > instructions. One to a few hours again. > Once again, it may just be ownership/perms that are killing me, but what I'd like to do is have somebody who's really familiar with this kind of thing just check it out for glaring config errors or security holes. Should everything under www be owned by root? or by apache? etc. I'm also using Rebol extensively for CGI stuff. For example: I've tried using * in conjunction with vhost configs, but I get errors when I do this, so right now I'm using my IP, which is less than desireable if I understand anything at all about this. > >>3. Disable sendmail, inst/conf tcpserver and qmail > > > http://www.lifewithqmail.org > > Do whatever they say there, I swear. Step by step. First you have to > patch up the qmail dist to make it reasonable. I added at least one more > patch myself (SMTP-AUTH). 1-2 days if you've never done it before. After > I figured out what I was doing I preferred to blow away my installation > and do it again. That took 2-3 hours. > > Make sure you read and understand the qmail Big Picture > (http://www.nrg4u.com/) That helped me a lot in my understanding of how > qmail is put together, which in turned helped me to effectively hack in my > customizations. > OK, so I'm lazy ;-) No, wait, I'm *busy*. I fear that I will try to do too much too fast and really screw up the whole system. That's the last thing I need right now with everything else that's going on. I've been "directed" to cancel my current offsite vhost/email account before the end of the week, so I don't have a lot of time to work with (but that's really more of a personal problem, so I'll leave it to you to ruminate as to the exact situation here). Thanks for the links... > >>4. Some general Linux admin questions >>5. Some special-project-related things > > > Well, you can certainly address the list. > Ownership/perms. Best way to keep the system up to date now that RHN is ignoring me. Security, security, security. Installing/configuring Kylix, Sphereserver, et al. All of the above, etc. > >>6. Possibly ditching RH8 and moving to YD or Debian > > > Dell will tell you to suck it, support-wise, if you do that. But you > might be happier in the long run. The system I set up had some > unfamiliar-to-me hardware such as as raid controller, system monitoring > stuff, so we chose to leave it stock. > > If you do this, I'd recommend making it step 1, instead of 6, however. :) Yes ;-) The likely Dell response is why I haven't moved on this already. I wonder what Dell is thinking in regards to RH's move - seems like RH dropped a big customer support issue in Dell's lap. I think YD is cool, even though I don't really know how it staxup against the alternatives, and Debian is one of the distros approved for another machine I'm betatesting (Pegasos). Thanks for the reply, and TIA for any future helps/ideas/infos... Pete

Jan. 28, 2004