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Re: [Wlug] Re: WLUG IRC anywhere?

by orbitz＠ezabel.com

Having tried to fix many peoples Windows XP installs I find XP very unmanagable. The guts (generally what I need to fix) is so hidden from the user in an attempt to keep up the facade of 'ease of use' it's a PITA to get around just to fix a screwy network connection. How many windows users don't even know what a directory is? I don't call that ease of use, merely keeping them ignorant. It's a sad state of computer use:) On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:51:56 -0400 Bill Smith <wsmith(a)chezsmith.com> wrote: > On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 08:43:57 -0400 > Bob George <mailings02(a)ttlexceeded.com> wrote: > > > Hey, at least there's not some kid constantly griping that Windows was > > so much easier (what happened to the Phoenix LUG channel - now #plugaz). > > I often find myself sighing at the "Windows is easier" crowd. i want to > educate them to what is available to them, to show them that "easier" does not > necessarily mean "best for the job". Easier might be just that (easy), but it > sometimes means making the wrong choice. > > If a person wants to favor an operating system simply because it's "easy", > then that person deserves all the resulting heartache s/he gets. often, the > person looking for "easy" will think "ease of use" instead of "ease to get > going without immediate worry"... If that became a major concern instead, I > think we would see a decided shift towards unix variants. Sure, Win* might be > easy to USE, but if you want it networked, there's a bit of know-how and > effort involved to make it SECURE. (that could probably be said for any OS, > but it is more true for Win* than for many others.) > > > A lot of LUG channels are largely idle, but I tend to lurk and > > occasionally there are some gems worth waiting for. > > :) granted. can't argue that one. > > -- > > William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com > Fall River, MA >

April 6, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Re: WLUG IRC anywhere?

by Bill Smith

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 08:43:57 -0400 Bob George <mailings02(a)ttlexceeded.com> wrote: > Hey, at least there's not some kid constantly griping that Windows was > so much easier (what happened to the Phoenix LUG channel - now #plugaz). I often find myself sighing at the "Windows is easier" crowd. i want to educate them to what is available to them, to show them that "easier" does not necessarily mean "best for the job". Easier might be just that (easy), but it sometimes means making the wrong choice. If a person wants to favor an operating system simply because it's "easy", then that person deserves all the resulting heartache s/he gets. often, the person looking for "easy" will think "ease of use" instead of "ease to get going without immediate worry"... If that became a major concern instead, I think we would see a decided shift towards unix variants. Sure, Win* might be easy to USE, but if you want it networked, there's a bit of know-how and effort involved to make it SECURE. (that could probably be said for any OS, but it is more true for Win* than for many others.) > A lot of LUG channels are largely idle, but I tend to lurk and > occasionally there are some gems worth waiting for. :) granted. can't argue that one. -- William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA

April 6, 2004

Re: WLUG IRC anywhere?

by Bob George

Bill Smith wrote: > [...] <shrug> Chuck's right, though. I've popped in a couple times > since he told us about this channel, and there is next to no traffic > whatsoever. Apparently Chuck leaves his IRC client on to monitor > traffic levels there, 'cause he wasn't even talking with me when i > joined in. (no snide comments from the peanut gallery!! <g>) Hey, at least there's not some kid constantly griping that Windows was so much easier (what happened to the Phoenix LUG channel - now #plugaz). A lot of LUG channels are largely idle, but I tend to lurk and occasionally there are some gems worth waiting for. - Bob (bobstro)

April 6, 2004

Re: [Wlug] WLUG IRC anywhere?

by Bill Smith

On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:40:13 -0400 "Charles R. Anderson" <cra(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 05:50:18PM -0400, Jeff Moyer wrote: > > Chuck, you sit on irc channels by yourself? Doesn't that kind of defeat > > the purpose? Or do you have bots to talk to? > > Yeah there is this one called Eliza...you should talk to it > sometime... ayuh... Eliza... she's been my best friend since high school... <sniffle> she's the only one that /truly/ understands... :D -- William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA

April 6, 2004

Re: [Wlug] WLUG IRC anywhere?

by Bill Smith

On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 17:50:18 -0400 Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> wrote: > cra> irc.freenode.net > > >> wlug > > cra> I discovered this about a year ago, and it was being (rarely) used by > cra> the Western Linux Users Group: > > cra> http://www.westernlug.org > ... > cra> There hasn't been any activity on the channel, and I have been its > cra> only joined member for many many months now. I say we start using it > > Chuck, you sit on irc channels by yourself? Doesn't that kind of defeat > the purpose? Or do you have bots to talk to? <shrug> Chuck's right, though. I've popped in a couple times since he told us about this channel, and there is next to no traffic whatsoever. Apparently Chuck leaves his IRC client on to monitor traffic levels there, 'cause he wasn't even talking with me when i joined in. (no snide comments from the peanut gallery!! <g>) -- William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA

April 6, 2004

Re: [Wlug] WLUG IRC anywhere?

by Charles R. Anderson

On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 05:50:18PM -0400, Jeff Moyer wrote: > Chuck, you sit on irc channels by yourself? Doesn't that kind of defeat > the purpose? Or do you have bots to talk to? Yeah there is this one called Eliza...you should talk to it sometime...

April 5, 2004

Re: [Wlug] WLUG IRC anywhere?

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] WLUG IRC anywhere?; "Charles R. Anderson" <cra(a)WPI.EDU> adds: cra> On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 05:20:56PM -0500, Bob George wrote: >> Just wondering if there's a WLUG IRC channel or similar about? cra> irc.freenode.net >> wlug cra> I discovered this about a year ago, and it was being (rarely) used by cra> the Western Linux Users Group: cra> http://www.westernlug.org cra> There hasn't been any activity on the channel, and I have been its cra> only joined member for many many months now. I say we start using it Chuck, you sit on irc channels by yourself? Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose? Or do you have bots to talk to? ;-P -phro

April 5, 2004

Re: [Wlug] WLUG IRC anywhere?

by Charles R. Anderson

On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 05:20:56PM -0500, Bob George wrote: > Just wondering if there's a WLUG IRC channel or similar about? irc.freenode.net #wlug I discovered this about a year ago, and it was being (rarely) used by the Western Linux Users Group: http://www.westernlug.org There hasn't been any activity on the channel, and I have been its only joined member for many many months now. I say we start using it for ourselves :) Seriously, if there is enough interest I can ask these folks to give us control over the channel....

April 2, 2004

Re: [Wlug] question

by Charles R. Anderson

On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:53:16AM -0500, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 03:21:32PM -0400, John Sawyer wrote: > > not sure if ive asked this, but i am unsure of how to uninstall > > something taht i have compiled in, such as gaim, through a .tar.gz ... Timewarp! This question was originally asked on October 24, 2000, but the OP had their clock set to July 23, 2012 so when I sorted my folder by date I thought it was new...

April 2, 2004

WLUG IRC anywhere?

by Bob George

Just wondering if there's a WLUG IRC channel or similar about? - Bob

April 2, 2004