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Re: [Wlug] Partition table blues

by Mike Leo

are you looking for a way to recover the files or to rebuild the mbr? What filesystem was it? ext3? fat? Several ways to recover files if fat/ntfs through software...one program i have heard of to recover ext2 filesystem...ill try and find the name. --- Gregory Avedissian <gma2004(a)verizon.net> wrote: > Yup. I blew it away. I had win98 and suse 8.2 on > the same hard drive, > booting linux from floppy. Noticed that I could no > longer boot windows > from the hard drive, so I attemted to restore the > mbr that I'd saved > earlier. That didn't work, my partition table is > gone, and I can't get > there from here. > > Parted has a function called something like 'Guess > at partition near START > and END'. I assume it's looking for cylindar > numbers. Is there a way to > get those if I didn't write them down when I > partitioned the drive? I do > have the sizes of the partitions, to the nearest 0.1 > GB. > > Looking for a free solution here. I did find a $90 > solution that runs in > windows and teases me by showing the files but not > letting me copy or view > them. > > Thanks, > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com

July 24, 2004

Partition table blues

by Gregory Avedissian

Yup. I blew it away. I had win98 and suse 8.2 on the same hard drive, booting linux from floppy. Noticed that I could no longer boot windows from the hard drive, so I attemted to restore the mbr that I'd saved earlier. That didn't work, my partition table is gone, and I can't get there from here. Parted has a function called something like 'Guess at partition near START and END'. I assume it's looking for cylindar numbers. Is there a way to get those if I didn't write them down when I partitioned the drive? I do have the sizes of the partitions, to the nearest 0.1 GB. Looking for a free solution here. I did find a $90 solution that runs in windows and teases me by showing the files but not letting me copy or view them. Thanks, Greg

July 24, 2004

nice use of graphics in a web page

by doug waud

Hi all I suppose this is a non-rant. I usually bitch about unecessary complexity in web sites. A friend showed me this one (he is a decendant of one of the kids kidnapped there by the French and Indians) and I thought the picture of the change with time of the area was very well done. http://1704.deerfield.history.museum/ doug

July 23, 2004

Re: [Wlug] fetchmail/MS IMAP/8 bit

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 10:27:06AM -0400, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 10:07:46AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 > > Arial;}{\f1\fswiss\fprq2\fcharset0 Arial;}} > > If you are getting the RTF through, can you view the RTF in e.g. > OpenOffice? > > Does Linux support the Windows-1252 character set and the given fonts? > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Charles, The RTF is not getting through. Bill

July 22, 2004

Re: [Wlug] fetchmail/MS IMAP/8 bit

by Charles R. Anderson

On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 10:07:46AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 > Arial;}{\f1\fswiss\fprq2\fcharset0 Arial;}} If you are getting the RTF through, can you view the RTF in e.g. OpenOffice? Does Linux support the Windows-1252 character set and the given fonts?

July 22, 2004

Re: [Wlug] fetchmail/MS IMAP/8 bit

by Scott Venier

Bill Mills-Curran said: > So, perhaps this is a mime problem with fetchmail? Or, is IMAP still > a possible offender? > You can find out if IMAP is the problem by telnetting directly to the IMAP port on the exchange server and just typing the IMAP commands directly. I don't know them off the top of my head, but I bet google could find them for you pretty quickly. Scott

July 22, 2004

Re: [Wlug] fetchmail/MS IMAP/8 bit

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 09:53:16AM -0400, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 09:45:05AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > I'm sure that the mail reader (mutt in my case) has nothing to do with > > it, because I looked at the "raw" output file that fetchmail > > delivered, and the color (8 bit) codes were gone. > > What 8-bit color code are they using? ANSI escape sequences? > > > I made the codes using rich text in MS Outlook. (I only did that for > > Rich Text is just plain 7-bit ASCII with markup, ala HTML, isn't it? > I don't see how an 8-bit issue could prevent transmission of RTF. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Charles, Right you are... It's not an 8-bit issue. Maybe it's even a mime issue. I sent myself a color message and saved it to a file in Outlook. Here's the file: **************************************************************** {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Arial;}{\f1\fswiss\fprq2\fcharset0 Arial;}} {\colortbl ;\red0\green0\blue0;\red51\green153\blue102;} {\*\generator Riched20 5.40.11.2210;}\viewkind4\uc1\pard\fi-1800\li1800\tx1800\cf1\b\f0\fs20 From:\tab\b0 Mills-Curran, Bill\par \b Sent:\tab\b0 Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:04 AM\par \b To:\tab\b0 Mills-Curran, Bill\par \b Subject:\tab\b0 color test\par \pard\cf0\f1 It\rquote s not easy being \cf2 green.\par \par \pard\fi-1800\li1800\tx1800\cf1\f0\par } **************************************************************** So, perhaps this is a mime problem with fetchmail? Or, is IMAP still a possible offender? Thanks, Bill

July 22, 2004

Re: [Wlug] fetchmail/MS IMAP/8 bit

by Charles R. Anderson

On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 09:45:05AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I'm sure that the mail reader (mutt in my case) has nothing to do with > it, because I looked at the "raw" output file that fetchmail > delivered, and the color (8 bit) codes were gone. What 8-bit color code are they using? ANSI escape sequences? > I made the codes using rich text in MS Outlook. (I only did that for Rich Text is just plain 7-bit ASCII with markup, ala HTML, isn't it? I don't see how an 8-bit issue could prevent transmission of RTF.

July 22, 2004

Re: [Wlug] fetchmail/MS IMAP/8 bit

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 02:41:33AM -0400, Keith Wright wrote: > > From: Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> > > > > I'm having troubles retaining special (8 bit?) encoding in email > > messages from the MS Exchange server where I work. Here's the normal > > path of my data: > > > > MS Exchange -> MS(?) IMAP -> fetchmail -> linux sendmail -> procmail > > -> mutt > > > > By the time an email with color fonts gets to mutt, the color is > > gone. As a test, I modified my .fetchmailrc to specify "cat" as my > > MDA so eliminated sendmail, procmail and mutt as offenders. > > > > I've also added "pass8bits" to my .fetchmailrc -- no improvement. > > > > Thus, I've narrowed the suspects to MS IMAP and fetchmail. > > > > Does anyone have experience with this problem? > > Well, I use Emacs to read mail. All my mail is green on black, > with some yellow headers. I like it that way and there is nothing > MS Exchange or anybody else can do about it. I'm sure that the mail reader (mutt in my case) has nothing to do with it, because I looked at the "raw" output file that fetchmail delivered, and the color (8 bit) codes were gone. > > You don't say how you made colored fonts in the first place. > If you are using HTML to specify fonts then I don't see how > the loss of them can have anything to do with 8-bit encoding, > because HTML is just Ascii with extra structure. I made the codes using rich text in MS Outlook. (I only did that for a test.) The colors I'm interested in seeing are used by other employees to flag specific text in their email, and I'm at a disadvantage because I can't see their highlighting. > > Could you be sending MIME Content-Type: multipart/alternative, > with Mutt set to read the Ascii alternative? I don't suspect that it's a mime issue, but I could be wrong. (It's been known to happen. :-) ) > > If you are trying to send DOS screen colors in the high order > bytes---I don't know what to say---you aren't doing that right? I don't claim that MS is doing anything right, but I'm stuck with trying to comply with their data. > > I didn't understand what you meant by using 'cat' as a MDA. > Unix 'cat' copies a file. Do you mean you copied a file from > your local disk into fetchmail thus bypassing IMAP but using Mutt, > or do you mean you copied incoming mail directly to the screen, > thus bypassing Mutt but using IMAP? Or am I out in the weeds? Here's the MDA story. By default, fetchmail delivers (outputs) messages to your local sendmail process. You can have fetchmail do something different if you like. (For a while, I just had it deliver to a file. [Yes, I managed locking.]) For this test, I wanted to eliminate sendmail as the cause of the problem, so I told fetchmail to use "cat" as the mail delivery agent (MDA). This would output the message directly to my interactive process, which I redirect to a file. I could look at that file several ways to confirm that the color codes had been stripped. So, I think that the MS IMAP and fetchmail are the only remaining suspects. > > -- Keith > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Thanks, Bill

July 22, 2004

Re: [Wlug] fetchmail/MS IMAP/8 bit

by Keith Wright

> From: Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> > > I'm having troubles retaining special (8 bit?) encoding in email > messages from the MS Exchange server where I work. Here's the normal > path of my data: > > MS Exchange -> MS(?) IMAP -> fetchmail -> linux sendmail -> procmail > -> mutt > > By the time an email with color fonts gets to mutt, the color is > gone. As a test, I modified my .fetchmailrc to specify "cat" as my > MDA so eliminated sendmail, procmail and mutt as offenders. > > I've also added "pass8bits" to my .fetchmailrc -- no improvement. > > Thus, I've narrowed the suspects to MS IMAP and fetchmail. > > Does anyone have experience with this problem? Well, I use Emacs to read mail. All my mail is green on black, with some yellow headers. I like it that way and there is nothing MS Exchange or anybody else can do about it. You don't say how you made colored fonts in the first place. If you are using HTML to specify fonts then I don't see how the loss of them can have anything to do with 8-bit encoding, because HTML is just Ascii with extra structure. Could you be sending MIME Content-Type: multipart/alternative, with Mutt set to read the Ascii alternative? If you are trying to send DOS screen colors in the high order bytes---I don't know what to say---you aren't doing that right? I didn't understand what you meant by using 'cat' as a MDA. Unix 'cat' copies a file. Do you mean you copied a file from your local disk into fetchmail thus bypassing IMAP but using Mutt, or do you mean you copied incoming mail directly to the screen, thus bypassing Mutt but using IMAP? Or am I out in the weeds? -- Keith

July 22, 2004

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