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Re: [Wlug] Unstable Linux in recent releases

by Andy Stewart

On 01/16/2011 06:25 AM, Jason Couture wrote: > Have you tried the nonfree nvidia drivers? Or perhaps the free ones if > the nonfree are in use? Hi Jason, My graphics chip is the ATI Radeon RV280 (Radeon 9200 PRO), and it is running the Free Software driver. There is nothing proprietary in use for the video. I don't generally like to use the proprietary drivers, but perhaps I could try it to see if it makes any difference. Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

Jan. 16, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Unstable Linux in recent releases

by Jason Couture

Have you tried the nonfree nvidia drivers? Or perhaps the free ones if the nonfree are in use? Sent from my android wireless device. On Jan 16, 2011 4:22 AM, "David P. Connell" <davec99(a)charter.net> wrote: It seems to me from reading and from experience that there is some problem with 10.10 (for me with MythBuntu) and it does seem to center around video and I am not using wireless at all on the several configurations of hardware that I've tried (nothing very new HT P4's and 5200 series NVidia graphics, but always worked great prior to this). I am not very experienced so I can't offer anything but this anecdotal evidence. -- David P. Connell "Watch where you're going; remember where you've been." _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wl...

Jan. 16, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Unstable Linux in recent releases

by Jason Couture

Recent kernel/HAL upgrades have caused gentoo to not see my keyboard. I have to boot older kernels to get it working. Could be a problem with my kernel configuration though. Sent from my android wireless device. On Jan 16, 2011 4:22 AM, "David P. Connell" <davec99(a)charter.net> wrote: It seems to me from reading and from experience that there is some problem with 10.10 (for me with MythBuntu) and it does seem to center around video and I am not using wireless at all on the several configurations of hardware that I've tried (nothing very new HT P4's and 5200 series NVidia graphics, but always worked great prior to this). I am not very experienced so I can't offer anything but this anecdotal evidence. -- David P. Connell "Watch where you're going; remember where you've been." _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wl...

Jan. 16, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Unstable Linux in recent releases

by David P. Connell

It seems to me from reading and from experience that there is some problem with 10.10 (for me with MythBuntu) and it does seem to center around video and I am not using wireless at all on the several configurations of hardware that I've tried (nothing very new HT P4's and 5200 series NVidia graphics, but always worked great prior to this). I am not very experienced so I can't offer anything but this anecdotal evidence. -- David P. Connell "Watch where you're going; remember where you've been."

Jan. 16, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Unstable Linux in recent releases

by James Gray

Funny, I've had crashes on and off for a while now. However, I believe it is related to my wireless driver (ironically ath5k, perhaps if I get newer drivers it will fix the problem?). I have the driver unloaded for a week and no problems. In another week I'll feel safe concluding it was the driver. I have another computer that sometimes crashes during shutdown right before power off. It doesn't hurt anything except that I have to press the power button - so I don't much care. I haven't had any problems with any of my other systems (all running *ubuntu 10.04) nor heard any complaints about the new *ubuntu 10.10 crashing. I think it pays to stick with the long term support releases as they are supposed to be more stable - 8.04 and 10.04. Probably doesn't help much, just thinking our loud. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > On 01/15/2011 09:20 PM, Eric Martin wrote: >> I had a problem a while ago and most of the folks here told me it was >> probably my wireless drivers. Since I've switched to the ath5k FOSS >> drivers as opposed to madwifi I've had no problems so I'm inclined to >> think that was the problem. If you're running wireless, try leaving it >> up overnight with the wireless drivers unloaded. > > HI Eric, > > The computer in question is my server, which doesn't have wireless. It > has been a rock for 4-5 years (until I upgraded to Kubuntu 10.10). > > I'll keep googling and if I find something, I'll let everybody know. > > Thanks, > > Andy > > -- > Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) > Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group > Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group > President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF) > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 16, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Unstable Linux in recent releases

by Andy Stewart

On 01/15/2011 09:20 PM, Eric Martin wrote: > I had a problem a while ago and most of the folks here told me it was > probably my wireless drivers. Since I've switched to the ath5k FOSS > drivers as opposed to madwifi I've had no problems so I'm inclined to > think that was the problem. If you're running wireless, try leaving it > up overnight with the wireless drivers unloaded. HI Eric, The computer in question is my server, which doesn't have wireless. It has been a rock for 4-5 years (until I upgraded to Kubuntu 10.10). I'll keep googling and if I find something, I'll let everybody know. Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

Jan. 16, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Unstable Linux in recent releases

by Eric Martin

I had a problem a while ago and most of the folks here told me it was probably my wireless drivers. Since I've switched to the ath5k FOSS drivers as opposed to madwifi I've had no problems so I'm inclined to think that was the problem. If you're running wireless, try leaving it up overnight with the wireless drivers unloaded. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net>wrote: > > HI gang, > > I've read an awful lot of posts recently describing freezing or hanging > systems in very recent versions of several Linux distributions. > > Unfortunately, I got one of them - Kubuntu 10.10 (I *knew* I shouldn't > have upgraded from the very stable SuSE 10.1, except that it was quite > old). > > My system arbitrarily hangs/freezes at unpredictable intervals. > Sometimes I can make it happen 2 minutes after a reboot, and other times > it takes a few days, but invariably, it does occur. > > I can usually induce it by doing something semi-stressful to the video, > like watching something via mplayer, but it doesn't always occur. > > The postings I've seen appear to describe a wide variety of hardware and > software configurations, and nobody can seem to find any error data in > any log file. > > What I can't find is the solution, and I've googled extensively. Has > anybody found anything online that talks about some very recently > discovered bug and its fix that would cure the problem? > > Thanks! > > Andy > > -- > Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) > Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group > Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group > President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF) > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Eric Martin

Jan. 16, 2011

Unstable Linux in recent releases

by Andy Stewart

HI gang, I've read an awful lot of posts recently describing freezing or hanging systems in very recent versions of several Linux distributions. Unfortunately, I got one of them - Kubuntu 10.10 (I *knew* I shouldn't have upgraded from the very stable SuSE 10.1, except that it was quite old). My system arbitrarily hangs/freezes at unpredictable intervals. Sometimes I can make it happen 2 minutes after a reboot, and other times it takes a few days, but invariably, it does occur. I can usually induce it by doing something semi-stressful to the video, like watching something via mplayer, but it doesn't always occur. The postings I've seen appear to describe a wide variety of hardware and software configurations, and nobody can seem to find any error data in any log file. What I can't find is the solution, and I've googled extensively. Has anybody found anything online that talks about some very recently discovered bug and its fix that would cure the problem? Thanks! Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF)

Jan. 16, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Dec Meeting announcement / linux-raid problem

by Eric Martin

I forgot to thank everybody for their help. I used dd_rescue to clone the disk and forced mdadm to activate the array and everything was good. Of course now my backup hard drive is throwing errors so it's either heat in the cabinet that's killing hds or a bad mb. I guess I'll be pulling the back off of my entertainment center... On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 4:52 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Eric" == Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> writes: > > Eric> Now, the main reason for my email. My mythbox / home file > Eric> server runs linux soft-raid in RAID5 with 3 500GB disks. One > Eric> disk went bad a while ago and the array never rebuilt itself. > > So you only had two 500Gb disks left in the array? > > Eric> The other day, the second disk went bad. Am I hosed? > > Possibly, it depends on how bad the second disk is. What I would do > is try to use dd_rescue to copy the 2nd bad disk onto a new disk > (possibly your original bad disk if you feel brave!) and then try to > re-assemble your raid 5 using that. You might or might not have > corruption in the filesystem, so make sure you run an fsck on it. > > Now, in the future, you should run a weekly check of the array for bad > blocks or other problems, so that you get notified if a disk dies > silently. I use the following crontab entry: > > # > # cron.d/mdadm -- schedules periodic redundancy checks of MD devices > # > # Copyright © martin f. krafft <madduck(a)madduck.net> > # distributed under the terms of the Artistic Licence 2.0 > # > > # By default, run at 00:57 on every Sunday, but do nothing unless the > day of > # the month is less than or equal to 7. Thus, only run on the first > Sunday of > # each month. crontab(5) sucks, unfortunately, in this regard; > therefore this > # hack (see #380425). > 57 0 * * 0 root if [ -x /usr/share/mdadm/checkarray ] && [ $(date +\%d) > -le 7 ]; then /usr/share/mdadm/checkarray --cron --all --idle --quiet; fi > > and I get a nice weekly report on both arrays on my main filerserver > at thome. > > Eric> I've been googling for 'rebuild bad linux software raid' but all > Eric> I get is the rebuild command. Also, I don't see any tools that > Eric> will move bad data to another spot on the disk. This is my > Eric> first time using software raid so I'm in a bit over my head. > > The first thing is to ask for help on the linux-raid mailing list, > which is hosted on vger.kernel.org. > > But somethings you can do to help is to give us more information. > Like: > > cat /proc/mdstat > > mdadm -E /dev/sd... > > or /dev/hd... depending on whether your SATA or IDE drives. > Basically, use the devices you got from the /proc/mdstat output as > your basis. > > Give us this output, and we should be able to help you more. > > John > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Eric Martin

Jan. 16, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Old man and LINUX

by E Johnson

The Up arrow is a total lifesaver. Whoever commented on making a text file containing Linucommands & their uses was right on, too. I can certainly search a text file residing in my hard drive much easier than I could ever find a note in one of a series of sprial (paper) notebooks. Liz J On 12 January 2011 19:24, Gregory Avedissian <avedis.g(a)verizon.net> wrote: > The up arrow will take you through your command history in reverse order. > If you want to see more than one command at a time, open .bash_history in > your home with a text editor, or, while you're still remembering it, do > 'more .bash_history'. If you remember the command, but you can't recall > what options you used with it, 'grep some-command .bash_history' can help. > > You can set the system to hold more commands, if you want. In debian, the > default is to hold the last 500 commands. I don't recall what it is in > other distros. > > Spiral-bound notebook is good, too. A couple of pages of your favorite > commands and just about anything else will still be readable if the system > crashes. > > Greg Avedissian > > > On 01/12/2011 03:56 PM, Ken Jones wrote: >> >> Folks, >> >> I have always wondered at my ability to keep the myriad of LINUX >> instructions in my head. What would I do if I were to start losing >> them? Is there a tool to search for recall? >> >> Is there any way to go backwards in LINUX command land? If I were to >> remember that there is a command that will print on standard output the >> contents of a file in txt characters, but could not for the life of me >> remember 'more'. Where would I go for help (other than sending a email >> to this list serve)? All the command dictionaries I have are alphabetic. >> >> Ken Jones (the elder) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 14, 2011