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Re: [Wlug] Talk for April...

by James Gray

I'd like to hear more about ZFS. As you know there was a previous presentation on ZFS as well, so it would be nice to cover some new ground. I'd like to see some ZFS in action. On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:29 PM, David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net>wrote: > Sounds good to me! > > -David > > On 3/26/2012 12:33 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > > Hey Everybody, > > At the last meeting, there was some talk about ZFS... > > Would people be interested in me doing a talk about ZFS? > > Thanks, > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing listWlug@mail.wlug.orghttp://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

March 27, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Talk for April...

by David Glaser

Sounds good to me! -David On 3/26/2012 12:33 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Everybody, > > At the last meeting, there was some talk about ZFS... > > Would people be interested in me doing a talk about ZFS? > > Thanks, > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 26, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by Tim Keller

Just so there's no confusion or overlap... there IS a facebook group for the Worcester Linux Users Group for which I'm the group owner. I made absolutely sure this group is NOT associated with the wlug(a)wlug.org when I created it. It has the address: worcester.linux.users.group(a)groups.facebook.com Thanks, Tim. On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > On 03/25/2012 07:35 PM, Keith Wright wrote: > >> > >> If what you are getting online is for free, you are > >> not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan > >> Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969) > > > > I have read that before, but did not have an > > attribution. I would like to offer and ammendment. > > > > you are not the customer, you are the merchandise. > > > > Facebook, Google, and Hotmail had nothing to do > > with producing me; I am not their product. > > > > -- Keith > > > > PS: Essay question 1: How does this aphorism > > apply to getting Linux for free? > > Would it be considered cheating to just refer someone to Eric Raymond? > > -- > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution > that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 26, 2012

Talk for April...

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, At the last meeting, there was some talk about ZFS... Would people be interested in me doing a talk about ZFS? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 26, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by Frank Sweetser

On 03/25/2012 07:35 PM, Keith Wright wrote: >> >> If what you are getting online is for free, you are >> not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan >> Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969) > > I have read that before, but did not have an > attribution. I would like to offer and ammendment. > > you are not the customer, you are the merchandise. > > Facebook, Google, and Hotmail had nothing to do > with producing me; I am not their product. > > -- Keith > > PS: Essay question 1: How does this aphorism > apply to getting Linux for free? Would it be considered cheating to just refer someone to Eric Raymond? -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken

March 26, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by Keith Wright

> > If what you are getting online is for free, you are > not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan > Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969) I have read that before, but did not have an attribution. I would like to offer and ammendment. you are not the customer, you are the merchandise. Facebook, Google, and Hotmail had nothing to do with producing me; I am not their product. -- Keith PS: Essay question 1: How does this aphorism apply to getting Linux for free?

March 25, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by Eric Martin

I agree it's not ok to share your address book, but accidents happen. That, and I was more getting at the fact that X service doesn't have our individual email addresses. On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:34 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I should have made that more clear. > > Mail-list address or not, Iit still is not okay to give the WLUG email > address to any other entities whatsoever. Someone shared the WLUG a > mailing address with a certain social/commercial website. Then > secondhandedly WLUG mailing list contacted x number of individual > contacts on behalf of the social/commercial website The message > included a direct link to this commercial website. List members were > invited to click on this link, or else to click on the UNsubscribe > link. > > Even sharing the WLUG contact address with outside entities is Non-OK. > We all got Spammed because someone decided it was okay to give our > email to ___.com.. > > Liz J > > If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, > you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. > 1969) > > On 23 March 2012 21:09, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have > > wlug(a)wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Eric Martin

March 24, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by E Johnson

I should have made that more clear. Mail-list address or not, Iit still is not okay to give the WLUG email address to any other entities whatsoever. Someone shared the WLUG a mailing address with a certain social/commercial website. Then secondhandedly WLUG mailing list contacted x number of individual contacts on behalf of the social/commercial website The message included a direct link to this commercial website. List members were invited to click on this link, or else to click on the UNsubscribe link. Even sharing the WLUG contact address with outside entities is Non-OK. We all got Spammed because someone decided it was okay to give our email to ___.com.. Liz J If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969) On 23 March 2012 21:09, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have > wlug(a)wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails. >

March 24, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by Eric Martin

To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have wlug(a)wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails. On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > My guess is somebody gave their address book to LinkedIn > > Obviously so. > > Jason also commented: > > > > Just need to be careful letting sites and apps go through your email > contacts > > Not just "be careful" but more like: "Do Not allow" sites and apps any > access to your email contacts at all. > > Ppls contact info is not owned by whoever has the person in their Contacts > list. > > Maybe a link could be added to the WLUG mailing list signup page, sending > a proposed (requesting-to-join) WLUG mailing list member to a page stating > Privacy policy (non-share contacts info). If a proposed (requesting) > mailing list member must read Privacy policy, then agree (click Yes to > Agree) before becoming a member of the mailing list, maybe it would prevent > the idea that Contact lists can be so casually given away. > > Liz J > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- Eric Martin

March 24, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

by E Johnson

> My guess is somebody gave their address book to LinkedIn Obviously so. Jason also commented: > Just need to be careful letting sites and apps go through your email contacts Not just "be careful" but more like: "Do Not allow" sites and apps any access to your email contacts at all. Ppls contact info is not owned by whoever has the person in their Contacts list. Maybe a link could be added to the WLUG mailing list signup page, sending a proposed (requesting-to-join) WLUG mailing list member to a page stating Privacy policy (non-share contacts info). If a proposed (requesting) mailing list member must read Privacy policy, then agree (click Yes to Agree) before becoming a member of the mailing list, maybe it would prevent the idea that Contact lists can be so casually given away. Liz J

March 23, 2012