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Re: [Wlug] hardware problem?

by Michael Frysinger

ive seen this once or twice on my on hardware. to fix it i either unplugged/plugged the monitor (both power cord and to the video card), or swapped the video cards temporarily. every once in a while stupid shit like that works :) -mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Hiramoto" <karl(a)zoop.org> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 22:43 Subject: Re: [Wlug] hardware problem? > I would try a new video card maybee. Reset your bios to factory > "safe" values. > > Do you see the bios come up on the screen at all? Does lilo/grub or > your bootloader come on the screen? > > > On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, avedis(a)ma.ultranet.com wrote: > > > I just had trouble booting into linux. Tried several times, but kept > > getting a blank screen, so I booted windoze. I noticed that I saw > > nothing on the screen until I got to my windows desktop, so I tried > > booting to linux again, and waited for my hard drive light to stop. Then > > I logged in with a blank screen, called up X, and it came up fine. > > > > Any ideas why my startup screen is missing? I haven't tried going into > > my bios yet, to see if it comes up on the screen. I'm not sure I > > remember how to get out of the bios on this machine, so I'm a little > > hesitant to go there. I'm not sure how to proceed, so any ideas are welcome. > > > > Athlon 1.2G, Spacewalker AK12A motherboard, ELSA GLoria L vid card, > > Viewsonic A70 monitor, 256RAM. > > > > I've got another computer here, so I could try switching monitors (not > > tonight). > > > > Thanks. > > > > Greg > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- > > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > Cell: 508-517-4819 > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > A fail-safe circuit will destroy others. > -- Klipstein > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

June 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] hardware problem?

by avedis＠ma.ultranet.com

No, nothing comes onto the screen until, in windows, my desktop appears, and in linux, didn't see lilo, I had to log in in the dark and call up an x session, and that comes up fine. I didn't try booting a clean dos disk, but I suspect I'll see nothing. G. Karl Hiramoto wrote: > I would try a new video card maybee. Reset your bios to factory > "safe" values. > > Do you see the bios come up on the screen at all? Does lilo/grub or > your bootloader come on the screen? > > > On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, avedis(a)ma.ultranet.com wrote: > > >>I just had trouble booting into linux. Tried several times, but kept >>getting a blank screen, so I booted windoze. I noticed that I saw >>nothing on the screen until I got to my windows desktop, so I tried >>booting to linux again, and waited for my hard drive light to stop. Then >> I logged in with a blank screen, called up X, and it came up fine. >> >>Any ideas why my startup screen is missing? I haven't tried going into >>my bios yet, to see if it comes up on the screen. I'm not sure I >>remember how to get out of the bios on this machine, so I'm a little >>hesitant to go there. I'm not sure how to proceed, so any ideas are welcome. >> >>Athlon 1.2G, Spacewalker AK12A motherboard, ELSA GLoria L vid card, >>Viewsonic A70 monitor, 256RAM. >> >>I've got another computer here, so I could try switching monitors (not >>tonight). >> >>Thanks. >> >>Greg >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >

June 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] hardware problem?

by Karl Hiramoto

I would try a new video card maybee. Reset your bios to factory "safe" values. Do you see the bios come up on the screen at all? Does lilo/grub or your bootloader come on the screen? On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, avedis(a)ma.ultranet.com wrote: > I just had trouble booting into linux. Tried several times, but kept > getting a blank screen, so I booted windoze. I noticed that I saw > nothing on the screen until I got to my windows desktop, so I tried > booting to linux again, and waited for my hard drive light to stop. Then > I logged in with a blank screen, called up X, and it came up fine. > > Any ideas why my startup screen is missing? I haven't tried going into > my bios yet, to see if it comes up on the screen. I'm not sure I > remember how to get out of the bios on this machine, so I'm a little > hesitant to go there. I'm not sure how to proceed, so any ideas are welcome. > > Athlon 1.2G, Spacewalker AK12A motherboard, ELSA GLoria L vid card, > Viewsonic A70 monitor, 256RAM. > > I've got another computer here, so I could try switching monitors (not > tonight). > > Thanks. > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø A fail-safe circuit will destroy others. -- Klipstein

June 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] spam with header

by Karl Hiramoto

I 2nd or 4th or whatever that you limit posters to list members. It works well on every other mailing list that I've used. On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Andy Stewart wrote: > On Sunday 30 June 2002 1:03 pm, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 11:32:14AM -0400, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > > > And now I just received this same spam... Indeed it did come through > > > wlug. We could prevent this sort of thing by only allowing subscribers > > > of the list to post to the list. How does everyone feel about that? > > I think it is perfectly reasonable to limit posting to the list to list > members only. I would prefer not to have to do that, but I really don't want > the spam. > > Hypothetically speaking, what stops folks like this from subscribing, posting > their garbage, and then unsubscribing? Are the spam generating robots that > smart? > > I knew this would happen eventually. Perhaps we should consider ourselves > lucky that it hasn't been more prevalent. Hopefully, Chuck and others can > track this down and get it stopped (at least at this one source). Thanks - > your efforts are appreciated! > > Later, > > Andy > > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø A fail-safe circuit will destroy others. -- Klipstein

June 30, 2002

Antispam software (was spam with header)

by Karl Hiramoto

Do you have a project created for this software? Distribute it? I have a spam problem @ work. Looking into solutions. I looked at maps rbl http://mail-abuse.org/rbl/ not sure on using it in a production environment though (where the most spam goes to) My main worry is someone sending e-mail to sales(a)company.com and it gettting rejected, and comany.com loses a sale. Is this an issue? On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > It's fine by me. Alternately, if we don't want to go that route, > I've developed a small set of tools (procmail/some perl/spamassassin) > to filter out spam from mailing lists. It was written for use with > majordomo, but it's generic enough that it should work with most any > mailing list software. One of these days I'll actually finish the > article I was writing about it. :| > > It doesn't catch 100% of the spam, but it does catch the vast majority, > including the one that got through. I'd be happy to share for the wlug > list if interested. > > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø A fail-safe circuit will destroy others. -- Klipstein

June 30, 2002

hardware problem?

by avedis＠ma.ultranet.com

I just had trouble booting into linux. Tried several times, but kept getting a blank screen, so I booted windoze. I noticed that I saw nothing on the screen until I got to my windows desktop, so I tried booting to linux again, and waited for my hard drive light to stop. Then I logged in with a blank screen, called up X, and it came up fine. Any ideas why my startup screen is missing? I haven't tried going into my bios yet, to see if it comes up on the screen. I'm not sure I remember how to get out of the bios on this machine, so I'm a little hesitant to go there. I'm not sure how to proceed, so any ideas are welcome. Athlon 1.2G, Spacewalker AK12A motherboard, ELSA GLoria L vid card, Viewsonic A70 monitor, 256RAM. I've got another computer here, so I could try switching monitors (not tonight). Thanks. Greg

June 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] spam with header

by Andy Stewart

On Sunday 30 June 2002 1:03 pm, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 11:32:14AM -0400, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > > And now I just received this same spam... Indeed it did come through > > wlug. We could prevent this sort of thing by only allowing subscribers > > of the list to post to the list. How does everyone feel about that? I think it is perfectly reasonable to limit posting to the list to list members only. I would prefer not to have to do that, but I really don't want the spam. Hypothetically speaking, what stops folks like this from subscribing, posting their garbage, and then unsubscribing? Are the spam generating robots that smart? I knew this would happen eventually. Perhaps we should consider ourselves lucky that it hasn't been more prevalent. Hopefully, Chuck and others can track this down and get it stopped (at least at this one source). Thanks - your efforts are appreciated! Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] spam with header

by Theo Van Dinter

On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 11:32:14AM -0400, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > And now I just received this same spam... Indeed it did come through > wlug. We could prevent this sort of thing by only allowing subscribers > of the list to post to the list. How does everyone feel about that? It's fine by me. Alternately, if we don't want to go that route, I've developed a small set of tools (procmail/some perl/spamassassin) to filter out spam from mailing lists. It was written for use with majordomo, but it's generic enough that it should work with most any mailing list software. One of these days I'll actually finish the article I was writing about it. :| It doesn't catch 100% of the spam, but it does catch the vast majority, including the one that got through. I'd be happy to share for the wlug list if interested. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: When will I learn? The answers to life's problems aren't at the bottom of a bottle. They're on TV! -- Homer Simpson There's No Disgrace Like Home

June 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] spam with header

by avedis＠ma.ultranet.com

Thanks, Charles. If we don't normally get serious email from people off the list, then it seems reasonable for us to only allow list members to post. I assumed that's how it already was. Greg Charles R. Anderson wrote: > And now I just received this same spam... Indeed it did come through > wlug. We could prevent this sort of thing by only allowing subscribers > of the list to post to the list. How does everyone feel about that? > > I usually look up the IP address in the Received line of the most > trusted mail server (usually the one closest to the destination, in this > case smtp.wpi.edu) Don't rely on the hostname, always use the > bracketed IP address, and look it up in the ARIN whois database: > > Received: from chat.ru ([194.143.190.11]) > by smtp.WPI.EDU (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id g5UB46wx028128 > > >>whois 194.143.190.11(a)whois.arin.net > > > This reveals that the owner of that IP address isn't in the Americas > (ARIN), but in Europe (RIPE), so you have to look it up again. (For > Asian hosts look it up again in APNIC, whois.apnic.net) > > >>whois 194.143.190.11(a)whois.ripe.net > > > For RIPE hosts, I usually complain to the admin-c: and tech-c: e-mail: > addresses: > > jonr(a)hedgehognet.co.uk > noc(a)uk.xo.com > tc(a)uk.concentric.com > > In this case, the e-mail addresses don't look like generic abuse > contacts, so I tried abuse@ their domains first: > > abuse(a)hedgehognet.co.uk > abuse(a)uk.xo.com > abuse(a)uk.concentric.com > > (For virus e-mails I use security@domain.) > > If those bounce, then I'll try the real e-mail addresses. > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 10:44:04AM -0400, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > avedis> Return-Path: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org > avedis> Received: from paramount.ind.wpi.edu (root(a)paramount.ind.WPI.EDU > avedis> [130.215.24.199]) by acestes-fe0.ultra.net (8.8.8/ult/n26500/mtc.v2) with > avedis> ESMTP id HAA01415; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:06:22 -0400 (EDT) > avedis> Received: from paramount.ind.WPI.EDU (IDENT:mailman@localhost [127.0.0.1]) > avedis> by paramount.ind.wpi.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UB1Tn02769; > avedis> Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:01:29 -0400 > avedis> Received: from smtp.WPI.EDU (root(a)smtp.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.62]) > avedis> by paramount.ind.wpi.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UB0En02743 > avedis> for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:00:14 -0400 > avedis> Received: from chat.ru ([194.143.190.11]) > avedis> by smtp.WPI.EDU (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id g5UB46wx028128 > avedis> for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:04:07 -0400 (EDT) > avedis> Message-Id: <200206301104.g5UB46wx028128(a)smtp.WPI.EDU> > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

June 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] spam with header

by Charles R. Anderson

And now I just received this same spam... Indeed it did come through wlug. We could prevent this sort of thing by only allowing subscribers of the list to post to the list. How does everyone feel about that? I usually look up the IP address in the Received line of the most trusted mail server (usually the one closest to the destination, in this case smtp.wpi.edu) Don't rely on the hostname, always use the bracketed IP address, and look it up in the ARIN whois database: Received: from chat.ru ([194.143.190.11]) by smtp.WPI.EDU (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id g5UB46wx028128 > whois 194.143.190.11(a)whois.arin.net This reveals that the owner of that IP address isn't in the Americas (ARIN), but in Europe (RIPE), so you have to look it up again. (For Asian hosts look it up again in APNIC, whois.apnic.net) > whois 194.143.190.11(a)whois.ripe.net For RIPE hosts, I usually complain to the admin-c: and tech-c: e-mail: addresses: jonr(a)hedgehognet.co.uk noc(a)uk.xo.com tc(a)uk.concentric.com In this case, the e-mail addresses don't look like generic abuse contacts, so I tried abuse@ their domains first: abuse(a)hedgehognet.co.uk abuse(a)uk.xo.com abuse(a)uk.concentric.com (For virus e-mails I use security@domain.) If those bounce, then I'll try the real e-mail addresses. On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 10:44:04AM -0400, Gregory Avedissian wrote: avedis> Return-Path: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org avedis> Received: from paramount.ind.wpi.edu (root(a)paramount.ind.WPI.EDU avedis> [130.215.24.199]) by acestes-fe0.ultra.net (8.8.8/ult/n26500/mtc.v2) with avedis> ESMTP id HAA01415; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:06:22 -0400 (EDT) avedis> Received: from paramount.ind.WPI.EDU (IDENT:mailman@localhost [127.0.0.1]) avedis> by paramount.ind.wpi.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UB1Tn02769; avedis> Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:01:29 -0400 avedis> Received: from smtp.WPI.EDU (root(a)smtp.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.62]) avedis> by paramount.ind.wpi.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5UB0En02743 avedis> for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:00:14 -0400 avedis> Received: from chat.ru ([194.143.190.11]) avedis> by smtp.WPI.EDU (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id g5UB46wx028128 avedis> for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:04:07 -0400 (EDT) avedis> Message-Id: <200206301104.g5UB46wx028128(a)smtp.WPI.EDU>

June 30, 2002