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Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: Meeting TONIGHT 7:00 PM

by Keith Wright

> From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > > We will be having our next WLUG meeting this evening at 7:00 PM. > All Linux related topics are open for discussion. Afterwards, we'll > grab some food at a local restaurant. > > See ya there! Oops. Ya didn't see me there. According to the headers, you sent this message at about 7am, but somebody called mail1.wpi.edu sat on it until 8pm. That could be a new record for mail delay at WPI. Received: from mail1.wpi.edu (MAIL1.WPI.EDU [130.215.36.91]) by paramount.ind.WPI.EDU (8.13.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m2K0DLoo001960 for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:13:21 -0400 Received: from mcafee.wpi.edu (MCAFEE.WPI.EDU [130.215.36.86]) by mail1.wpi.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m2JBCQ4j030377 for <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:12:26 -0400 After making that perilous journey, the message appears to have sped off to go once more around the circle [192.168.0.5] ([24.147.247.113]) => OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net => QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net => SMTP.WPI.EDU => mcafee.wpi.edu => mail1.wpi.edu => paramount.ind.WPI.EDU => SMTP.WPI.EDU => mcafee.wpi.edu => mail1.wpi.edu => fcs12.keithdiane.us => me Are you sure those postmaster guys really know what they are doing? -- Keith

March 20, 2008

REMINDER: Meeting TONIGHT 7:00 PM

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI all, We will be having our next WLUG meeting this evening at 7:00 PM. All Linux related topics are open for discussion. Afterwards, we'll grab some food at a local restaurant. See ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH4POgHl0iXDssISsRAmSWAJ9qlD2154UesPUp4JLgszXSjgPjeQCbB3FT PUz6vB4Bv3Tj3hbpqV3x0u0= =jFg9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

March 19, 2008

Re: [Wlug] proftpd off the map?

by Chuck Anderson

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:24:59AM -0400, John Stoffel wrote: > >>>>> "Brian" == Brian J Conway <bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu> writes: > > >> Now maybe I'm a little out of date, I'd love to know that more recent > >> versions of OpenSSH support chroot'd sftp jails. > > Brian> Actually, there is recent development on that front: > > Brian> http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20080220110039 > > Brian> I don't believe it's part of any release of OpenSSH yet, but > Brian> presumably soon. > > Interesting. I'm still interested in the scp option though, since > that's just as easy for user to use, and just as secure as sftp from > what I see. I'd figure if you just did a static linking, you'd be all > set. > > The key, to me, is to automate the setup of the jails and then you're > done. Don't make it a manual process at all. Check this thread for a sftp-only chroot solution: http://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/msg29106.html

March 14, 2008

Re: [Wlug] proftpd off the map?

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Brian" == Brian J Conway <bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu> writes: >> Now maybe I'm a little out of date, I'd love to know that more recent >> versions of OpenSSH support chroot'd sftp jails. Brian> Actually, there is recent development on that front: Brian> http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20080220110039 Brian> I don't believe it's part of any release of OpenSSH yet, but Brian> presumably soon. Interesting. I'm still interested in the scp option though, since that's just as easy for user to use, and just as secure as sftp from what I see. I'd figure if you just did a static linking, you'd be all set. The key, to me, is to automate the setup of the jails and then you're done. Don't make it a manual process at all. John

March 14, 2008

Re: [Wlug] proftpd off the map?

by Tim Keller

In a nutshell... I'm using ftp right now (proftpd) and I have it configured the way I want and it works well... I just wanted to update to the latest version or see if there were any security updates and found the website unaccessible... As for the chroot features... I currently use them for proftpd and I purchased the commercial version of SSH that includes chroot. I'm psyched to see that they'll be supporting it soon since it's a feature I look for. However, my current plan is to reimplement my current configuration using vsftpd, because at least in my eyes, vsftpd is a known quantity and under development. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Brian J. Conway <bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, John Stoffel wrote: > > > > > Aaron> On a slight tangent: Do you have a specific need for ftp? I'd > > Aaron> suggest looking into using sftp instead (the s stands for > > Aaron> secure). It's available as part of openssh. > > > > The problem with sftp is that it doesn't offer chroot() style jails > > for ftp users and accounts. This can be worked around using the > > scponly hack which is out on the net. > > > > Now maybe I'm a little out of date, I'd love to know that more recent > > versions of OpenSSH support chroot'd sftp jails. > > Actually, there is recent development on that front: > > http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20080220110039 > > I don't believe it's part of any release of OpenSSH yet, but presumably > soon. > > Brian J. Conway > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leary of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 13, 2008

Re: [Wlug] proftpd off the map?

by Brian J. Conway

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, John Stoffel wrote: > > Aaron> On a slight tangent: Do you have a specific need for ftp? I'd > Aaron> suggest looking into using sftp instead (the s stands for > Aaron> secure). It's available as part of openssh. > > The problem with sftp is that it doesn't offer chroot() style jails > for ftp users and accounts. This can be worked around using the > scponly hack which is out on the net. > > Now maybe I'm a little out of date, I'd love to know that more recent > versions of OpenSSH support chroot'd sftp jails. Actually, there is recent development on that front: http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20080220110039 I don't believe it's part of any release of OpenSSH yet, but presumably soon. Brian J. Conway

March 13, 2008

Re: [Wlug] proftpd off the map?

by John Stoffel

Aaron> Tim Keller wrote, on Mar 12, 2008 at 11:16 EDT: >> Hey Gang, >> >> Has anyone else noticed that proftpd seems to be off the map now? I've >> tried going to their web page to check for latest version / bug fix and I >> can't seem to get there... >> >> I guess I'll be upgrading to vsftpd... Aaron> On a slight tangent: Do you have a specific need for ftp? I'd Aaron> suggest looking into using sftp instead (the s stands for Aaron> secure). It's available as part of openssh. The problem with sftp is that it doesn't offer chroot() style jails for ftp users and accounts. This can be worked around using the scponly hack which is out on the net. Now maybe I'm a little out of date, I'd love to know that more recent versions of OpenSSH support chroot'd sftp jails. I know this mostly because I needed to integrate sftp into an existing proftpd setup, without changing the directory structure and how it works. Not hard, just took testing and some setup scripts to build proper hardlinks. John

March 13, 2008

Re: [Wlug] proftpd off the map?

by Aaron Haviland

Tim Keller wrote, on Mar 12, 2008 at 11:16 EDT: > Hey Gang, > > Has anyone else noticed that proftpd seems to be off the map now? I've > tried going to their web page to check for latest version / bug fix and I > can't seem to get there... > > I guess I'll be upgrading to vsftpd... On a slight tangent: Do you have a specific need for ftp? I'd suggest looking into using sftp instead (the s stands for secure). It's available as part of openssh. -- Aaron Haviland 34 Wayne Ave, Dudley, MA home: [508] 943 - 7974

March 12, 2008

proftpd off the map?

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Has anyone else noticed that proftpd seems to be off the map now? I've tried going to their web page to check for latest version / bug fix and I can't seem to get there... I guess I'll be upgrading to vsftpd... Thanks, Tim. -- I am leary of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 12, 2008

Re: [Wlug] looking for Andy

by Mike Frysinger

On Thursday 06 March 2008, Maly, Doug wrote: > Hi - I lost Andy's email - please have him reply. > > Thanks, > Doug > (the guy that was running Mint Linux on my son's EeePC) mailing list archive on wlug.org says "andystewart at comcast.net" -mike

March 8, 2008

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