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WLUG mail server crash

by Frank Sweetser

Hello all - Over the weekend, the machine that serves as the WLUG mail had a major hard drive crash. As a result, the working copy of the WLUG mailing list is now a fine black powder floating around the inside of the hard drive case. While the list has been restored from a backup copy, this has caused a few changes: - since it was a slightly older copy, a few people who have unsubscribed may be back on, and vice versa. you can go to http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug to fix this. - all preferences and passwords have been reset. same page as above to fix this. - the URLs have changed slightly - the .cgi portion has been removed (Rob - can you fix this on the WLUG web page, please?) Other than that, everything should be back to normal. Please feel free to email me if you have any problems, questions, etc. -- Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 14 Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | : - cut in regexps I don't think we reached consensus on that. We're still backtracking... -- Larry Wall in <199710291922.LAA07101(a)wall.org>

Feb. 5, 2001

word perfect

by donald vitkus

can not install word perfect 8.0 on united linux any ideas

Jan. 17, 2000

linux

by donald vitkus

wondering if you could do a demo on on linux command psr meeting for use new bees

Jan. 10, 2000

Re: [Wlug] RE: reply to monitor request Wlug digest, Vol 1 #639 - 3 msgs

by donald vitkus

Walter F. Doyle wrote: >Hi: > >How does $15 sound. Call Jeff at 508-831-7455 on Monday we have about 30 >monitors to choose from!! > >Walter Doyle > >-----Original Message----- >From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On >Behalf Of wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org >Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:01 PM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Wlug digest, Vol 1 #639 - 3 msgs > > >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Linux job opportunity (Andy Stewart) > 2. Hard drive crashed! (Andy Stewart) > 3. Wanted: Used monitor (Andy Stewart) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >charset="us-ascii" >From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> >Organization: Worcester Linux Users' Group >To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 00:35:31 -0400 >Subject: [Wlug] Linux job opportunity >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >HI Everybody, > >Here is a job opportunity that was recently sent to me. If interested, >please >don't reply to the list or to me, but to the recruiter named below. > >Helene Fitch Friedlander >HR Representative >* (978) 461-7148 Fax (978) 461-3720 >* helene.fitch(a)stratus.com >S T R A T U S T E C H N O L O G I E S > >Code 03-076 & 03-075 >Job Title Software Engineer III (Linux) >Occupation Software Engineering >Location Maynard, MA >Description >Will participate as a member of a small team of engineers working on the >development and support of a Fault Tolerant version of Linux that runs on >Stratus' Fault Tolerant IA32 HW. The work will be focused on 1) >participating in the ongoing new development efforts to keep current with >the latest versions Linux, 2) port our FT Linux to the latest Stratus HW >platforms, 3)the productionization of our FT Linux SW and 4) providing >support to Stratus' existing Technology Partners (i.e. - bugs fixes). The >areas that we have made and continue to make modifications in Linux include >providing for SCSI and PCI hot-plug support (including surprise removal of >devices), overall hardening of a select set of Linux device drivers to adapt >them for Stratus' Fault Tolerant environment and making Linux work with >Stratus' FT Hardware. >Experience 6+ years of Software development experience with at least 2+ >years in Linux/Unix software development, including systems level Linux >development. Ability to switch gears quickly and work on multiple problems >simultaneously, Strong communication skills essential. Ability to work well >within a team environment required. Must have Linux kernel development >and/or device driver development. Experience in Linux SCSI a major plus. >BSCS/BSEE or equivalent experience > >-- >Andy Stewart, Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA USA >http://www.wlug.org > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >charset="us-ascii" >From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> >Organization: Worcester Linux Users' Group >To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 01:28:18 -0400 >Subject: [Wlug] Hard drive crashed! >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >HI everybody, > >I've been out of touch all week due to a catastrophic hard drive failure. >My >hard drive is only 1.5 years old and its an IBM Ultrastar 18 GB SCSI drive >with a 5 year warranty. IBM/Hitachi will be getting it back assuming it >fails their diags, which I have to run as a prerequisite to getting an RMA. >Naturally, they are DOS based diags. They have incredibly fussy rules about >packing the drive for shipment, lest one voids one's warranty (say that >three >times fast). > >Believe it or not, it died while I was doing the tape backup!! > >I lost about 1 weeks worth of Quicken transactions and the photos from my >sister's wedding (which I can recover from CDs previously burned for other >family members). I got lucky. > >The moral of the story is: Make sure you do your backups! This is the 2nd >hard drive that I've lost in the last 12 months (the first one was over 5 >years old). > >Or, just run most of your machines as LTSP clients and don't worry about >disks..... :-) > >Later, > >Andy >-- >Andy Stewart, Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA USA >http://www.wlug.org > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >charset="us-ascii" >From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> >Organization: Worcester Linux Users' Group >To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 01:54:55 -0400 >Subject: [Wlug] Wanted: Used monitor >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >Hi everybody, > >I'm looking for a used monitor as a spare for my basement lab bench: > >14" or 15" >Multi sync >Capable of at least 1024x768 at 72 Hz (or better) >Relatively good cosmetic condition >Excellent working condition >Cheap(!) > >If you have something which might interest me, contact me directly and we >can >negotiate. > >Thanks, > >Andy >-- >Andy Stewart, Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA USA >http://www.wlug.org > > > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >End of Wlug Digest_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > what the size of the monitors?

Jan. 10, 2000

Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meeting: Wed, Sept. 10th, 7:00 PM

by donald vitkus

Andy Stewart wrote: >HI everybody, > >Our next meeting shall be held in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus on >Wednesday, September 10th, at 7:00 PM. Note that this location is not the >same as last month. This is the room that we generally use for our meetings. > >At this meeting, the topic will be "An Introduction to Linux for Newcomers", >and the intended audience is people who do not know much (if anything) about >Linux, but do have experience with computers and perhaps Windows. > >I'll prepare some slides and discuss the following topics (and perhaps more): > >o What is Linux? >o Origins of Linux >o Software licensing >o Computer requirements (memory, disk space, etc) >o How to obtain a copy of Linux >o How to "test drive" Linux without messing up my computer >o More... >o Q/A session during the meeting and afterwards >o Demo of a single CD version of Linux which won't modify your existing files >on the C: drive >o Giveaway: copies of a single CD version of Linux (probably Knoppix and/or >Suse Live Eval - can somebody help me burn a few copies?) > >Bring your friends - let's see if we can get them to at least "kick the tires" >on Linux. > >After the meeting, we'll adjourn to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer. > >See ya there! > >Andy > > > i can make copies if you sent me the image donald vitkus

Jan. 8, 2000

Re: [Wlug] Re: Next Meeting?

by donald vitkus

Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > Not to trigger a full blown debate... > > It doesn't matter what point *we* are at, it matters what point anyone > who decides to show up is at. It also doesn't matter what can fit on > a flash drive... You have to ask yourself who the intended audience > is. If it is techies who already know what a home directory is and > might end up playing with Linux without WLUG's help, then it doesn't > matter what you show, or if you demo more than one thing. > > If, however, you are trying to interest newbies who might decide to > stay with what they already have if the alternative is perceived as a > lot of work, then I would advise skipping the discussion about how > cool the technology is and focus on why a standard Linux distro is > useful. As I keep reminding my students - the technology is > meaningless, the important questions to ask is "what can you do with > it". If you really want to excite a lot of students, show them how > they can save money and, more importantly time, and still turn their > assignments in on time in a format acceptable to their professors! > > The reason for my initial comment in this thread was simple: In my > experience at WPI, a non-trivial minority of students do not have a > tremendous amount of experience with computers - even the self > professed "programmers." Students new to WPI are already overwhelmed > with some 30-40 hours a week of school work outside of class time. If > they are "into computers" then they are already interested enough to > invest their time based on the "technology is cool" camp. If, > however, they are interested in technology as a tool, they will look > at the demo, size up how much effort is involved (and that includes > how readily available the necessary information is and how easy that > info is to use), decide how helpful the venue is to trying Linux, > assess if Linux/WLUG/whatever is worth it to them, and make a > decision. If, as you say, the commercial distributions are no more > difficult to install than windows, then that is what we should be > showing, as well as OpenOffice, Mozilla, and so forth. > > Steve > > Matt Higgins wrote: > >>My 2 cents or less if you will. >> >>I think Knoppix is the way to go! The point is to showoff Linux-wares not to >>teach about a particular distributions configuration mechanism or file system >>layout. Knoppix is clean and impressive in many ways and does a great job at >>showing off what Linux can do. Furthermore we are to the point were a Linux >>install is no more difficult then a Windows install, particularly the commercial >>distributions; Red Hat, SuSe, Mandrake, Yellow Dog, etc... >> >>So thats my 2 cents or less, long live Slackware! >> >>Matt >> >>Quoting Steve Freitag <Steve.Freitag(a)alum.wpi.edu>: >> >> >> >>>I've recently spent a small amount of time playing around with both the SuSe >>>8.2 Live Eval, and Knoppix 7-26-03, so I thought I'd pass along my >>>observation >>> >>> >>> >>>Both default you into KDE and have a similar selection of apps (Like >>>OpenOffice, Mozilla, the GIMP etc). Knoppix happens to be based of Debian. >>> >>> >>> >>>There were a couple of things I liked about Knoppix. The first is that you >>>don't have to go through all the YaST screens when you boot, Knoppix just >>>boots right up to KDE and logs you on as user knoppix. The other neat thing >>>about Knoppix is that you can save your configuration and home directory of >>>the size you specify on a USB flash drive. With SuSE if you want to save >>>your configuration/home dir it creates a 100MB file on your hard drive (and >>>another 100MB for swap if you want). With Knoppix you can carry a cheap >>>($10 after rebate) 64MB USB flash drive around with you and a Knoppix CD and >>>boot a PC into your personal environment without touching the hard disk. >>> >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf >>>Of Stephen C. Daukas >>>Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:23 PM >>>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Re: Next Meeting? >>> >>> >>> >>>Is introducing yet-another-flavor-of-linux useful? I understand what you >>>are trying to achieve, but one of the first questions that came to my mind >>>was "what is the difference between Knoppix and a regular Linux distro"? >>>(The first was actually "what the hell is Knopix"!) Will it be confusing to >>>the people looking at is verusus what they see when they look at SuSe, Red >>>Hat, etc.? >>> >>>Andy Stewart wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>On Monday 01 September 2003 4:52 pm, albutler33(a)netscape.net wrote: >>> >>> >>>Andy, >>> >>>I think a great topic especially for the new students would be "Fast Track >>>to Linux" where you introduce the GNOME and KDE desktops and a few of your >>>favorite tools and utilities. >>> >>>Al Butler >>> >>> >>> >>>HI Al, >>> >>>My most current thoughts are centered on Linux, its origins, the GPL, >>>WLUG/WPILA, and then segue into single CD demo distributions for folks who >>>want to "kick the tires", as it were, without fully committing their hard >>>drives to Linux. >>> >>>One such single CD demo distribution is Knoppix, which does have KDE (and >>>GNOME?). Once Knoppix is running, many things could be demonstrated. If I >>>go with this idea, I'd want to have copies of the Knoppix CD available for >>>people to take home, and hopefully they would try it at their leisure. >>> >>>How does that sound? Do people have additional ideas? Let's hear them! >>>:-) >>> >>>Later, >>> >>>Andy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>__________________________________________________________________ >>>McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. >>>Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial >>>today! >>>http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 >>> >>>Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! >>>http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Wlug mailing list >>>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Stephen C. Daukas - stephen(a)daukas.com - http://daukas.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >> >> > >-- >Stephen C. Daukas - stephen(a)daukas.com - http://daukas.com/ > > > I hope you will slow down the process if you have to trouble shoot the install of linux.

Jan. 7, 2000

Re: [Wlug] Re: Next Meeting?

by donald vitkus

Andy Stewart wrote: >On Monday 01 September 2003 4:52 pm, albutler33(a)netscape.net wrote: > > >>Andy, >> >>I think a great topic especially for the new students would be "Fast Track >>to Linux" where you introduce the GNOME and KDE desktops and a few of your >>favorite tools and utilities. >> >>Al Butler >> >> > >HI Al, > >My most current thoughts are centered on Linux, its origins, the GPL, >WLUG/WPILA, and then segue into single CD demo distributions for folks who >want to "kick the tires", as it were, without fully committing their hard >drives to Linux. > >One such single CD demo distribution is Knoppix, which does have KDE (and >GNOME?). Once Knoppix is running, many things could be demonstrated. If I >go with this idea, I'd want to have copies of the Knoppix CD available for >people to take home, and hopefully they would try it at their leisure. > >How does that sound? Do people have additional ideas? Let's hear them! :-) > >Later, > >Andy > > > > >>__________________________________________________________________ >>McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. >>Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial >>today! >>http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 >> >>Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! >>http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > > i am in school now but hope to still make the meetings

Jan. 5, 2000

Re: [Wlug] Re: Next Meeting?

by donald vitkus

albutler33(a)netscape.net wrote: >Andy, > >I think a great topic especially for the new students would be "Fast Track to Linux" where you introduce the GNOME and KDE desktops and a few of your favorite tools and utilities. > >Al Butler > >__________________________________________________________________ >McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. >Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! >http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 > >Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! >http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > i agree since i get lost with linux

Jan. 5, 2000

Re: [Wlug] Flaky disks or controller?

by donald vitkus

Andy Stewart wrote: >HI Everybody, > >Having recently rebuilt my "good" computer, I'm now seeing a bunch of disk I/O >errors in my system log. I have 3 SCSI disks connected to a Symbios >controller using the sym53c8xx module and a 2.4.20 kernel. > >At first, I suspected an individual drive, as it is nearly 4 years old, and >all of the errors were there. I have since physically removed that drive, >and now the other drives are logging errors rather sporatically. Typically, >I see an error message from reiserfs about how it couldn't write to the >drive, and a disk I/O error in the log. The system is then wedged and >requires a reboot. > >With the problem showing up on all 3 SCSI drives, I'm now suspicious of the >(used) controller which I received as a "present" from a guy at work. > >If it should be the controller, do you folks have recommendations about >reasonably priced SCSI controllers? I have 6 SCSI devices in my system and I >need 68-pin as well as 50-pin capabilities. One of my disks is U160, and I >think the others are slower, but with disks always getting faster, I'd >probably want a U160 controller. I don't think I want to pay the premium for >a U320 controller. > >Thanks, > >Andy > > have you tried to reset the cmos on the motherboard to a defaul setting

Jan. 4, 2000

Re: [Wlug] CD/DVD-ROM question

by donald vitkus

Gregory Avedissian wrote: > I just noticed that my boot message tells me that my CD-ROM and CDRW > drives are also DVD-ROM. I wasn't aware that either of them had that > capability when I bought them. All those spam messages about reading > DVD from my CD-ROM went in the trash without being read, so now I'm > wondering. Is it possible to read a DVD on a CD drive? If so, how? If > not, why does the boot message say that? > > Thanks. > > > Greg > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > not i can not read a dvd in a cdrom

Jan. 2, 2000