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WLUG BBQ !!!

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, The WLUG BBQ is coming up fast: Date: Thursday, July 26th, 2007 Time: 6:00 PM Place: Eric Martin's house Address: 33 Lansing Avenue, Worcester, MA 01605 This is 2.5 miles from WPI. Look for the penguin! WLUG will supply burgers, dogs, munchies, soda, and the like. Thanks, Eric, for hosting the BBQ this year! See ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGohpEHl0iXDssISsRAiXvAJ4qkWSBpHaGD/MTD9nWU5+/AW2wuwCeOQ5t 4K5LyUHbm0MeiNc/QX5PnG4= =JeTk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

July 21, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Democracy Player - Miro

by Eric Stein

As soon as I can emerge it (which, according to their site, will be pretty soon), I'm installing it. Yeah, I could go download it, but I like doing things via portage, it's easier to keep track of. Joe Riopel wrote: > Hi, > > I am not sure how many of your are/were familiar with the Democracy > media player, but they have recently changed the name to Miro > (http://www.getmiro.com/) > > The reason I am posting it here is that some of the core people > working on that project are from right here in glorious Worcester. > > Joe

July 18, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Democracy Player - Miro

by Klein, Richard

> From: Joe Riopel > > Hi, > > I am not sure how many of your are/were familiar with the > Democracy media player, but they have recently changed the > name to Miro (http://www.getmiro.com/) > > The reason I am posting it here is that some of the core > people working on that project are from right here in > glorious Worcester. That's cool! I installed Democracy on my Mac, but with iTunes pre-installed, I haven't actually gotten around to using Democracy/Miro more than once or twice. -- Rich

July 18, 2007

Democracy Player - Miro

by Joe Riopel

Hi, I am not sure how many of your are/were familiar with the Democracy media player, but they have recently changed the name to Miro (http://www.getmiro.com/) The reason I am posting it here is that some of the core people working on that project are from right here in glorious Worcester. Joe

July 18, 2007

Re: [Wlug] greetings

by Frank Sweetser

rwaka jude wrote: > Hello to you all am Rwaka Jude a University student at kigali institute > of science and technology (KIST) in central Africa. i have had interest > in joining fellow student students in your linux users group due to the > fact that am aslo interested and writting my dissertation in a linux > environment so i thought of joing groups like yours to see if we can > exchange ideas and opinions. > My project is: SETTING UP A WEB BASED EMAIL SYSTEM RUNNING ON A LINUX > SERVER USING SQUIRREL MAIL; > Am hoping to hear from you if you could love to entertain students in > your group. otherwise wish all the best of luck and looking forward to > hearing from your committee. Hi Rwaka, while we're primarily based out of Worcester, MA in the US, you're certainly welcome to participate on the mailing lists. When you're ready with more specific questions and topics, just send them out and someone will probably respond! -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

July 12, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Getting your mom on Linux?

by Eric Martin

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have an ipod and use citrix on multiple linux computers. The easiest way to get the ICA client is to go to her NFUSE page (where she logs in) and it will have a link. If not, http://www.citrix.com/English/SS/downloads/details.asp?dID=2755&downloadID=…. I can't quite get it to work in firefox, so I installed the client into my home directory, and have wfica open the files. As for ipods, there are many programs (I've tried out at least 5). It depends on what you want. If she just uses stuff downloaded from iTunes then you are out of luck from what I can tell. I too hate DRM so I use straight mp3s that I ripped myself. Amarok has a plugin that comes with it for ipods, I hear banshee works too. GtkPod is just for ipods (I haven't used it in a few years). I once tried to get iTunes to work under WINE but I haven't gotten that working yet. As for printing, it all depends on what printer you have. Next time I need a printer I'm consulting the foomatic-db first, as my wife always wants printers that aren't supported under linux. I use all of this stuff under Gentoo and Ubuntu, and find it very easy under both. If you need a hand with anything, just let me know. Also as a call to a later post, I would have to agree with NOT dual-booting. First she won't use GNU/Linux. Secondly, you'll have to deal with Windows headaches AND migrating her over to GNU/Linux. I'd say make the jump after you research the ipod and the printer. Just my $0.02 Eric Mike Perry wrote: > Hi all, > > I visited my parents yesterday and yet again my mother's computer is filled > with spyware. Everytime I go there it is slower and slower and odd things > keep happening (like icons disappearing ... I've witnessed this myself). > > I've been considering trying to get her onto Kubuntu, but I have a few valid > concerns. I'm curious if anyone has any experience with the following under > Linux (any flavor): > > * Citrix connectivity -- She currently, and very seldom, uses an ActiveX > control in IE to connect to her work. Are there alternatives besides using IE > and Wine or running a VM? > > * iPod which is currently registered with her Windows box. I'm not too > familiar with this, because my mp3 is not an iPod. > > * Printing - She currently has a very nice Canon i960 which can print photos. > I less concerned about drivers and more about functionality. Her current > Windows based software can print wallets, 8x10s, etc very easily. I wouldn't > want her to lose that ability. > > I know some of these answers might be a Google away, but I'm curious on your > experiences with this and possibility any other gothcya's that I am not > thinking about. > > If I could overcome these hurdles I think she would actually have a much > pleasant experience with her home pc. I've slowly been getting her to adopt > open source software, but this would be a big jump. I also think it would be > much easier for me help remotely too. > > Cheers, > Mike > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGlMmbaiVxdKlBO58RAurFAJ41G3aGIFzZwkepbKSQc/EjDSsgqgCgh3w6 hzx3DmJa80ME5BIUPPkyvg4= =iku4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

July 11, 2007

greetings

by rwaka jude

Hello to you all am Rwaka Jude a University student at kigali institute of science and technology (KIST) in central Africa. i have had interest in joining fellow student students in your linux users group due to the fact that am aslo interested and writting my dissertation in a linux environment so i thought of joing groups like yours to see if we can exchange ideas and opinions. My project is: SETTING UP A WEB BASED EMAIL SYSTEM RUNNING ON A LINUX SERVER USING SQUIRREL MAIL; Am hoping to hear from you if you could love to entertain students in your group. otherwise wish all the best of luck and looking forward to hearing from your committee. Regards Jude Rwaka --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.

July 10, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Getting your mom on Linux?

by Mike Leo

tsclient is a front end to rdesktop. Also, there is an official Citrix client for linux. you could also give her a liveCD and see how many objections you get. I gave my dad linux 3 or 4 years ago now and he's never looked back. ----- Original Message ---- From: Mike Perry <mwp(a)sdf.lonestar.org> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2007 2:55:42 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Getting your mom on Linux? I think tsclient is just a front end to: http://bin-false.org/?p=13 That may be an option depending on how her work has Citrix configured. Rdesktop just makes a reference to ICA. I think the harddrive idea is actually pretty good (if I had a spare drive :) At least this way I could test these scenarios. I really don't have much experience with iPods though. I know they have some kind of DRM -- I am pretty certain I can get it working with Amarok, but what I am not clear on is how it associates the music to account. Even if we rebuilt her Windows computer it may pose a DRM problem. I hate DRM. Anyone have any insight? On another note... I am pretty confident that modern Linux distro's can hold up a novice computer user like my mother. Primarily she uses her computer for casual web surfing and email. She is already using Firefox and Thunderbird -- so if I show her the icons she will know what to do. ~Mike > On Thursday 05 July 2007 1:43:44 pm Andre Lehovich wrote: > > --- Mike Perry <mwp(a)sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: > > > * Citrix connectivity -- She currently, and very seldom, uses an > > > ActiveX control in IE to connect to her work. Are there alternatives > > > besides using IE and Wine or running a VM? > > > > $ apt-cache search citrix > > tsclient - front-end for viewing of remote desktops in GNOME > > rdesktop - RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server > > > > The web equivalent: > > http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=citrix > > > > VNC also works for connecting between different operating systems. > > > > --Andre > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > >__ _________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > > http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

July 5, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Getting your mom on Linux?

by Mike Perry

I think tsclient is just a front end to: http://bin-false.org/?p=13 That may be an option depending on how her work has Citrix configured. Rdesktop just makes a reference to ICA. I think the harddrive idea is actually pretty good (if I had a spare drive :) At least this way I could test these scenarios. I really don't have much experience with iPods though. I know they have some kind of DRM -- I am pretty certain I can get it working with Amarok, but what I am not clear on is how it associates the music to account. Even if we rebuilt her Windows computer it may pose a DRM problem. I hate DRM. Anyone have any insight? On another note... I am pretty confident that modern Linux distro's can hold up a novice computer user like my mother. Primarily she uses her computer for casual web surfing and email. She is already using Firefox and Thunderbird -- so if I show her the icons she will know what to do. ~Mike > On Thursday 05 July 2007 1:43:44 pm Andre Lehovich wrote: > > --- Mike Perry <mwp(a)sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: > > > * Citrix connectivity -- She currently, and very seldom, uses an > > > ActiveX control in IE to connect to her work. Are there alternatives > > > besides using IE and Wine or running a VM? > > > > $ apt-cache search citrix > > tsclient - front-end for viewing of remote desktops in GNOME > > rdesktop - RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server > > > > The web equivalent: > > http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=citrix > > > > VNC also works for connecting between different operating systems. > > > > --Andre > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > >__ _________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > > http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

July 5, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Getting your mom on Linux?IO

by Mike Perry

Good suggestion, but I don't think my mother would understand the concept of dual-booting. She would probably just end up booting into Widnows and not switching -- or I would get phone calls all day saying "I am in Linux again I don't know how I got here". ~Mike > > On Thursday 05 July 2007 12:37:23 pm Jamie Guinan wrote: <snip> > > > > > > This sounds like a good time to upgrade her hard drive. Put a new, > > > larger drive in her computer and install Kubuntu onto that. Try > > > everything out, and if something doesn't work, put the old drive back > > > in until you can figure out a solution. > > > > Or put in the 2nd hard drive and leave the 1st one in there, and set > > it up to dual-boot. She can still boot Windows to do her Citrix > > stuff, and she can use Linux for web surfing (no spyware), and you can > > try migrating iPod/printing/etc. over time. > > > > -Jamie > > > > > I'd answer your specific questions if I knew the answers. > > > > > > -- > > > Rich > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

July 5, 2007