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Re: [Wlug] Fedora Disapointment

by Brian J. Conway

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:30:08 -0700 dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com wrote: > Already disabled SELinux. Just disabled yum-updatesd. Yum seems to > be a much bigger memory hog than before. Firefox + yum update is > generally sufficient to bog the system. > > I'll try disabling some more services. Just shocks me that even > though I use the system the same way, the performance is that much > worse. Maybe the memory improvements with firefox 3 will help low > memory systems when it comes out. > > Dennis Payne > dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com It sounds like you're on the right track, sorting 'ps' or 'top' by memory usage and picking off items is where I'd start. I don't know what desktop/window manager you're using (or which Fedora includes, actually), but you have tried a more lightweight alternative? Xfce is one I hear recommended regularly, it's pretty slick. I still won't give up Window Maker no matter how many iterations of hardware I go through. ;) Brian J. Conway

Jan. 12, 2008

Re: [Wlug] Fedora Disapointment

by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com

Quoting Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU>: > 256M isn't a lot of memory these days, but I'm running a handful of virtual > machines with only 256M and they work well enough. You might try to > check out > what's running on your system, and prune out extra daemons and the like that > you don't need. Use the chkconfig and ntsysv commands to manage > what services > are started up. Already disabled SELinux. Just disabled yum-updatesd. Yum seems to be a much bigger memory hog than before. Firefox + yum update is generally sufficient to bog the system. I'll try disabling some more services. Just shocks me that even though I use the system the same way, the performance is that much worse. Maybe the memory improvements with firefox 3 will help low memory systems when it comes out. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

Jan. 12, 2008

Re: [Wlug] Fedora Disapointment

by Frank Sweetser

dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com wrote: > I understand that my laptop is old. Every time I've upgraded Red > Hat/Fedora, I've liked the new system until Fedora 8. I didn't always > upgrade. I skipped Fedora 7 since the live CD didn't boot on my > laptop but Fedora 6 ran great. Fedora 8 is a dog with my small amount > of memory (256M). I'm thinking I'll buy more memory but it > disappoints me that Fedora runs poorly with 256M. (I would buy a new > laptop but I'm just not impressed with the current offerings.) 256M isn't a lot of memory these days, but I'm running a handful of virtual machines with only 256M and they work well enough. You might try to check out what's running on your system, and prune out extra daemons and the like that you don't need. Use the chkconfig and ntsysv commands to manage what services are started up. Also, you may want to try disabling the SELinux security extensions. Edit /etc/sysconfig/selinux , make sure the SELINUX variable is set to disabled, reboot, and see if that helps. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

Jan. 12, 2008

Fedora Disapointment

by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com

I understand that my laptop is old. Every time I've upgraded Red Hat/Fedora, I've liked the new system until Fedora 8. I didn't always upgrade. I skipped Fedora 7 since the live CD didn't boot on my laptop but Fedora 6 ran great. Fedora 8 is a dog with my small amount of memory (256M). I'm thinking I'll buy more memory but it disappoints me that Fedora runs poorly with 256M. (I would buy a new laptop but I'm just not impressed with the current offerings.) Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

Jan. 12, 2008

Re: [Wlug] Next meeting?

by Walt Sawyer

How about setting it up so one of the cameras can capture it and put it up on the screen? Walt Andy Stewart wrote: > James Gray wrote: > > All of the meetings for 2008 have been scheduled and are on wlug.org > > (via the WLUG Meetings link at the top of the page). No topic has > > been announced yet for this meeting. > > > January 17, 2008 Thursday > > Access Grid Room > > Lower Wedge > > Morgan Hall > > 7:00 PM > > Topic: TBD > > > Finally a question on this list I can answer. :-) > > -James > > Hi Gang, > > Yes indeed, that's the date for the next meeting, and there is no > speaker scheduled (yet) for this meeting. Any volunteers? > > Failing that, I doubt folks would be interested in seeing a real XO > laptop. ;-) I could bring one if people are interested. That would > give me incentive to learn how to use most of the programs. However, > there isn't any VGA output, so I don't know how to get the image on the > screen where an audience could see it. VNC perhaps? I'm not sure. I'll > play with it over the weekend. For external connections, the machine has > USB ports, wireless (WEP only), microphone and speaker jacks. > > Later, > > Andy > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 12, 2008

Re: [Wlug] Next meeting?

by Jamie Guinan

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Andy Stewart wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > James Gray wrote: > > All of the meetings for 2008 have been scheduled and are on wlug.org > > (via the WLUG Meetings link at the top of the page). No topic has > > been announced yet for this meeting. > > > > January 17, 2008 � Thursday > > Access Grid Room > > Lower Wedge > > Morgan Hall > > 7:00 PM > > Topic: TBD > > > > Finally a question on this list I can answer. :-) > > -James > > Hi Gang, > > Yes indeed, that's the date for the next meeting, and there is no > speaker scheduled (yet) for this meeting. Any volunteers? > > Failing that, I doubt folks would be interested in seeing a real XO > laptop. ;-) I could bring one if people are interested. That would > give me incentive to learn how to use most of the programs. However, > there isn't any VGA output, so I don't know how to get the image on the > screen where an audience could see it. VNC perhaps? I'm not sure. I'll > play with it over the weekend. For external connections, the machine has > USB ports, wireless (WEP only), microphone and speaker jacks. I hope you're bringing enough for everybody. :) For VNC, if you can get it (I hope you'll spend a minute or two on the packaging system) or build it, "x11vnc" requires virtually no setup and lets you export your current X session to a VNC client, http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ -Jamie > Later, > > Andy > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) > Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) > Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHh/pKHl0iXDssISsRApbdAJwN+jNtjRnq+fbTUYo0v8G8k0jHTACfS1JC > mvveJr9PcqQtIn8TKrK7vfI= > =qGnh > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 12, 2008

Re: [Wlug] Next meeting?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 James Gray wrote: > All of the meetings for 2008 have been scheduled and are on wlug.org > (via the WLUG Meetings link at the top of the page). No topic has > been announced yet for this meeting. > > January 17, 2008 – Thursday > Access Grid Room > Lower Wedge > Morgan Hall > 7:00 PM > Topic: TBD > > Finally a question on this list I can answer. :-) > -James Hi Gang, Yes indeed, that's the date for the next meeting, and there is no speaker scheduled (yet) for this meeting. Any volunteers? Failing that, I doubt folks would be interested in seeing a real XO laptop. ;-) I could bring one if people are interested. That would give me incentive to learn how to use most of the programs. However, there isn't any VGA output, so I don't know how to get the image on the screen where an audience could see it. VNC perhaps? I'm not sure. I'll play with it over the weekend. For external connections, the machine has USB ports, wireless (WEP only), microphone and speaker jacks. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHh/pKHl0iXDssISsRApbdAJwN+jNtjRnq+fbTUYo0v8G8k0jHTACfS1JC mvveJr9PcqQtIn8TKrK7vfI= =qGnh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Jan. 11, 2008

Re: [Wlug] Next meeting?

by James Gray

All of the meetings for 2008 have been scheduled and are on wlug.org (via the WLUG Meetings link at the top of the page). No topic has been announced yet for this meeting. January 17, 2008 – Thursday Access Grid Room Lower Wedge Morgan Hall 7:00 PM Topic: TBD Finally a question on this list I can answer. :-) -James > > Hey... Any idea when the next meeting is going to be and what it's going to be about? >

Jan. 11, 2008

Next meeting?

by Tim Keller

Hey... Any idea when the next meeting is going to be and what it's going to be about? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leary of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 11, 2008

CRT

by Mike Leo

thanks to all who responded to my request for a CRT. I have one now that will most likely work. If not, i'll ping those who responded and make arrangements. Happy New Year!

Jan. 7, 2008