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April WLUG virtual meeting was a resounding success!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, I just wanted to give a shout out to everybody who showed up to the virtual meeting last night. It was cool to see Maddog show up, I'm glad he's staying safe and healthy. Yeah, there were a couple of audio/video hiccups, but I thought overall it went great. I shared my screen a couple of times and that worked just fine as well. One cool thing that was brought up doing the meeting and I thought was worth talking about is "vscodium" which is a 100% open source recompile of the visual studio code editor. The big difference is that the vscode as shipped from microsoft contains telemetry tracking data that gets sent back to the mothership... https://vscodium.com/ solves that problem. We obviously jibber jabbed about COVID19 and folding@home and Logan showed off the facemasks he's been printing as well as the antennae he's building to contact a long lost satellite in geostationary orbit. While it wasn't the same as a physical meeting, when we do manage to get ourselves all back in the same room, I think it's something we'll definitely incorporate into the physical meetings. Stay safe, stay healthy and wash your hands! We'll see what May brings us and decide from there... Tim. WLUG President -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 10, 2020

Has anyone here built a jitsi server?

by Michael Voorhis

Has anyone here built a functional jitsi server? I tried today, with a fresh Debian-10 install and the jitsi "quick-install" method: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/blob/master/doc/quick-install.md It didn't work. jitsi logs indicated a java problem; I had neither the time nor really the inclination to debug their "stable" install. My two test-laptops were able to connect to meet.jit.si and communicated with eachother using the "free" jitsi server, but when the same two laptops were connected to the server I'd just built, the two failed to connect. I'll try again tomorrow. The next immediate challenge will be purging the traces of the failed first experiment from the system. --MCV.

April 9, 2020

Re: Virtual meeting today! Starting at 7pm, via Jitsi!!

by Rob Evans

Me too. I was in & out briefly, but did not have camera or microphone on my desktop computer. I hope to participate more in the future. - Bob Evans On 4/9/20 6:59 PM, Joel via WLUG wrote: > Hi All, > > Not going to make it to tonight's conference. > > Hope you are all well, > > Joel >

April 9, 2020

Re: Virtual meeting today! Starting at 7pm, via Jitsi!!

by Keith Wright

Joel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Not going to make it to tonight's conference. Neither will I. I think I approve of Jitsi, but I need all the computers to keep working. I am afraid to try something new, for fear of breaking something. I have never used the camera on this laptop. I did no preparation nor downloaded anything, but for the L of it I put the URL into the browser, https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA. It displays a grey rectangle. Tell the mailing list how it worked. -- Keith

April 9, 2020

Re: Virtual meeting today! Starting at 7pm, via Jitsi!!

by Joel

Hi All, Not going to make it to tonight's conference. Hope you are all well, Joel On April 9, 2020 9:01:32 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > We've got a virtual meeting today! > > We're all going to meet on Jitsi! Here's the location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > > The big blue button stuff looks really awesome, but I haven't had a chance to dig into it, however for presenting it looks pretty awesome. > > I hope everybody is staying sane and staying safe. > > Later, > Tim Keller > WLUG President > > > > -- > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/24SLW…

April 9, 2020

Virtual meeting today! Starting at 7pm, via Jitsi!!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, We've got a virtual meeting today! We're all going to meet on Jitsi! Here's the location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA The big blue button stuff looks really awesome, but I haven't had a chance to dig into it, however for presenting it looks pretty awesome. I hope everybody is staying sane and staying safe. Later, Tim Keller WLUG President -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 9, 2020

Re: April WLUG meeting to be online

by Stephen Thamel

Hey Pete - I would be interested in the 580 and the R415s. I can come by tomorrow when convenient. Let me know if that works for you. On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 1:07 PM Pete Wason via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hi! When is the meeting? > > BTW, I have *piles* of (mostly Dell) hardware for sale (donation? either > is overly complicated..). Everything from an old > Dimension E530 desktop to a Poweredge R515 with 12TB of internal disk > (both already running CentOS 6.10). A whole roomfull of > Optiplex 740s and 580s, an R300, two R415s, etc. In a few weeks I'll also > have a couple of Synology RS2416+ units with > expansion chassis. I can forward a complete list if anyone is interested. > Most of the equipment is in Worcester, where I work. > > Stay safe! > Pete in Sutton > > > > On 3/31/2020 10:34 AM, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > > > I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need > virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals. > > > > As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online. > > I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others. > > > > What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup? > > > > Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!! > > > > Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon. > > > > Later, > > Tim. > > > > > > -- > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/LNHAH… > > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/53TKE… >

April 8, 2020

Re: April WLUG meeting to be online

by Pete Wason

Hi! When is the meeting? BTW, I have *piles* of (mostly Dell) hardware for sale (donation? either is overly complicated..). Everything from an old Dimension E530 desktop to a Poweredge R515 with 12TB of internal disk (both already running CentOS 6.10). A whole roomfull of Optiplex 740s and 580s, an R300, two R415s, etc. In a few weeks I'll also have a couple of Synology RS2416+ units with expansion chassis. I can forward a complete list if anyone is interested. Most of the equipment is in Worcester, where I work. Stay safe! Pete in Sutton On 3/31/2020 10:34 AM, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > Hey Gang, > > I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals. > > As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online. > I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others. > > What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup? > > Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!! > > Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon. > > Later, > Tim. > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/LNHAH… >

April 8, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: [EXT] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ?

by joshua.gage.stone＠gmail.com

I've recently learned about BigBlueButton, which is designed around teaching with features like slideshow integration and session recordings (currently disabled due to increased demand though). I think this could work well for us seeing as we tend to do presentations hosted our own computers anyway. This demo looks quite promising: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hso8yLzkqj8 BBB and other communication solutions endorsed as being FOSS-friendly are listed here as well: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Remote_Communication -Josh On Thu, 2020-04-02 at 14:05 +0000, Krichevsky, Nicholas J. via WLUG wrote: > So this isn't free "as in beer" but I just saw > https://wire.com/en/ mentioned on HackerNews today. Source code is > GPL3, but it looks like they handle the hosting for 4 > euro/user/month. They mention in their FAQ that you can self-host, > but it sounds like you still have to pay to do that. Not sure if > they have a guide to just run it yourself but I'm sure you can... > you have the source... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most secure collaboration platform · Wire > > Wire is actively leading the work on extending its security standards > to become the norm for protecting organizations' digital assets. > Messaging Layer Security (MLS) is a new protocol designed to firm up > the security of enterprise messaging platforms by employing > end-to-end encryption within group communication. > > wire.com > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Chris Thompson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:34 PM > > To: wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > > Cc: Chris Thompson <wolcen(a)riseup.net> > > Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Re: [EXT] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ? > > > > > I know it's been mentioned, but wanted to point to two instances of > it I use frequently and offer some additional feedback. > There's the "premier" one, which is at > > https://meet.jit.si/ and is very often running the very latest > version. > The Mayfirst COOP also hosts an instance at > > https://meet.mayfirst.org/ This doesn't tend to be upgraded quite so > frequently, so unless it lands on a poor version, it's a great one to > use. > > > Usually "just works" on phone/desktop fine. It can be a little > glitchy, and has not often performed very well for my coop more than > about 10 participants or so. Desktop sharing, video, audio, and chat > as well > as other features all function well on GNU/Linux save for some > difficulty I had with Sway WM/Wayland (which may well have been my > shortcoming). I'm not sure how dependent the limits we've seen are > dependent upon the infrastructure available, but I'm told it's > not terribly difficult to deploy an instance, but have yet to try > myself. > > > FWIW, nearly every time, a quick page refresh (or two) for whomever > is having issues gets things working. > TBH, it's best to have a backup connection when using Jitsi (i.e. > text msg, etherpad, or IRC or whatever), or else to work with more > experienced users - e.g. those that will notice a message/open the > chat pane > to read that they cannot be heard and to either un-mute or else > refresh their page. > --Chris > > > On 3/25/20 11:53 AM, Bradley Noyes via WLUG wrote: > > > > I have never used this software, but apparently nextcloud can do > > some kind of video conferencing with their package call “spreed" > > > > > > > > https://github.com/nextcloud/spreed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:55, Krichevsky, Nicholas J. via WLUG < > > > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much do you care about it being *VIDEO* by the way? If it's > > > not important, there's always Mumble... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get > > > Outlook for Android > > > > > > From: Michael Voorhis via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:53:52 AM > > > > > > To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion < > > > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > > > > > > Cc: Voorhis, Michael C <mvoorhis(a)wpi.edu>; Joshua Stone < > > > joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com> > > > > > > Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/25/20 10:38 AM, Joshua Stone via WLUG wrote: > > > > > > > Zoom is a good option if using a Pro subscription. > > > > > > > > > > > > We're digressing a bit from the discussion-topic which is *free* > > > > > > videoconferencing. My email was in retrospect ambiguous; I made > > > > > > assumptions based on the listenership of my email. > > > > > > > > > > > > I was asking about FOSS videoconferencing. Jitsi appears to be > > > the only > > > > > > answer at this point. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks all, > > > > > > > > > > > > --MCV. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > > wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > > > > > Create Account: > > > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… > > > > > > Change Settings: > > > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… > > > > > > Web Forum/Archive: > > > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > > wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > > > > > Create Account: > > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > > > > > Change Settings: > > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > > > > > Web Forum/Archive: > > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/4ER6X… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________WLUG mailing list -- > > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/UH6HX… > > > > > > > _______________________________________________WLUG mailing list -- > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/OSZK4…

April 4, 2020

Does LINUX still exist?

by Ken Jones

I am trying for figure out what, if anything, of FEDORA RED HAT LINUX is still available. I have downloaded a DVD that I plan to install on my DELL XPS desktop PC running WINDOWS 10. Will it find for me my old LINUX atmosphere? Ken Jones

April 3, 2020