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Re: Stuck in traffic

by Althea Shaheen

I would love to hear more from you John about what your experience is with TrueNAS Enterprise versus NetApp, as I am looking at the same options myself. We have used NetApp for longer than I have been around but the cost of it is a whole different level than what I imagine TrueNAS would be. I've used Scale personally and Core for backup systems at work, but the HA/failover is what I am most curious about if we went the route of Enterprise. -Althea On Fri, Oct 11, 2024, at 09:36, John Stoffel via WLUG wrote: >>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > >> I'm currently stuck in traffic I should be there for about 7:10 > > So how did the meeting go? Any comments or thoughts on ZFS and how > it's useful and how it can be abused? > > I'm using ZFS on a TrueNAS Enterprise cluster, which works, but has > it's issues, mostly around failover speed. Been spoiled by Netapps > for too many years. > > I've also managed to make Oracle branded ZFS appliances fall over due > to load, so I have reservations about ZFS to this day. > > I do like the *ideas* behind it, and some of the powerful features it > has. But the layering violations make me worry. > > Just go look at the problems btrfs has had trying to do it's own RAID5 > instead of just layering on top of MD RAID5 (which I also admit has had > problems too! Nothing is perfect...). > > The goals of ZFS in terms of file content checksums are awesome, I > really like that. I just wish there was a better way to actually > shrink ZFS filesystems (even if done as any offline process) without > jumping through all kinds of hoops. > > Anyway, I hope to see you all at the next meeting! > John > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/SQAQ6…

Oct. 11, 2024

Re: Stuck in traffic

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > I'm currently stuck in traffic I should be there for about 7:10 So how did the meeting go? Any comments or thoughts on ZFS and how it's useful and how it can be abused? I'm using ZFS on a TrueNAS Enterprise cluster, which works, but has it's issues, mostly around failover speed. Been spoiled by Netapps for too many years. I've also managed to make Oracle branded ZFS appliances fall over due to load, so I have reservations about ZFS to this day. I do like the *ideas* behind it, and some of the powerful features it has. But the layering violations make me worry. Just go look at the problems btrfs has had trying to do it's own RAID5 instead of just layering on top of MD RAID5 (which I also admit has had problems too! Nothing is perfect...). The goals of ZFS in terms of file content checksums are awesome, I really like that. I just wish there was a better way to actually shrink ZFS filesystems (even if done as any offline process) without jumping through all kinds of hoops. Anyway, I hope to see you all at the next meeting! John

Oct. 11, 2024

Stuck in traffic

by Tim Keller

I'm currently stuck in traffic I should be there for about 7:10

Oct. 10, 2024

Re: Reminder! WLUG Meeting tonight! Topic: ZFS!

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Time: 7pm > Date: Oct 10th, 2024 > Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland St. Worcester MA > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > Topic: Zettabyte File System (ZFS). I thought I'd give a quick demo > of ZFS, what it is and how I'm using it in an enterprise > environment. I'll create some filesystems, do some hacky stuff with > them, etc.. Can you shrink it yet? > As usual, I'm sure we'll chat about lots of other stuff as well.. > I hope to see you there! > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/A2E5K…

Oct. 10, 2024

Reminder! WLUG Meeting tonight! Topic: ZFS!

by Tim Keller

Time: 7pm Date: Oct 10th, 2024 Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland St. Worcester MA Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: Zettabyte File System (ZFS). I thought I'd give a quick demo of ZFS, what it is and how I'm using it in an enterprise environment. I'll create some filesystems, do some hacky stuff with them, etc.. As usual, I'm sure we'll chat about lots of other stuff as well.. I hope to see you there! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 10, 2024

Re: Meeting tomorrow!! Oct 10th 2024!

by John Stoffel

Sorry all, I can't make it, have my show opening that night. Come see "39 Steps" at Calliope Theatre in Boylston over the next two weekends! Jphn

Oct. 9, 2024

Meeting tomorrow!! Oct 10th 2024!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody! Sorry for the late notice.. Frankly our entire house was under the weather with covid.. it sucked. But we're all negative and feeling better! We've got a meeting Tomorrow at Technocopia! Date: Oct 10th 2024 Time: 7PM Location: 44 Portland St Worcester MA Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: TBD.. Would be interested in me doing a ZFS demo? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 9, 2024

Re: Testing?

by Joshua Stone

Indeed, make sure to patch CUPS as soon as possible! https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-response-openprinting-cups-vulnerabi… - Josh On Fri, Sep 27, 2024, 4:36 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Just making sure that people are getting my emails.. > > Patch your CUPS if you haven't already! > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/4DYHG… >

Oct. 1, 2024

Re: Testing?

by Tim Keller

Rimshot.gif On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 8:08 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Keith" == Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > >> Just making sure that people are getting my emails.. > > > Is there a reason to doubt it? You send two or three every month. > > But how many of you reply? Hmmm? > > > >> Patch your CUPS if you haven't already! > > > Why do you care if my BRA is torn? > > LOL!!!! > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 1, 2024