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Re: Keyboard recommendations

by Frank Sweetser

So my primary keyboard these days is one of the older TEK keyboards. They're still mostly QWERTY, but have moved a few of the special keys around, like enter and delete. Even these took some time to get used to, and a little more time to get used to switching back and forth with the typical layout on anything else. I'd have to see some pretty impressive improvements before I'd try to really put in the work to learn and switch between the whole alphabet. Besides, I find that the keyboard is rarely the bottleneck - I quite frequently can type faster than I can think, so typing faster wouldn't speed up my work at all! On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 10:27 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > What do people think of alternative keyboard layouts? > > I ask because a couple of my co-workers use "workman" > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/kdeloach/workman/gh-pages/images/usage-vi… > > Tim. > > > On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 4:43 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> >>>>> "Frank" == Frank Sweetser via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> >> > (hey man, long time no see!) Bringing keyboards sounds like an >> > interesting idea. What would everyone think about showing off their >> > keyboards as a meeting topic? >> >> It's an interesting idea. I'd be happy bring one of mine at some >> point, but not until after then end of June. >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/X2VGC… >> > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/7KAJX… > -- - Frank

June 21, 2023

Re: Keyboard recommendations

by Tim Keller

What do people think of alternative keyboard layouts? I ask because a couple of my co-workers use "workman" https://raw.githubusercontent.com/kdeloach/workman/gh-pages/images/usage-vi… Tim. On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 4:43 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Frank" == Frank Sweetser via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > (hey man, long time no see!) Bringing keyboards sounds like an > > interesting idea. What would everyone think about showing off their > > keyboards as a meeting topic? > > It's an interesting idea. I'd be happy bring one of mine at some > point, but not until after then end of June. > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/X2VGC… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

June 21, 2023

Re: Keyboard recommendations

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Frank" == Frank Sweetser via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > (hey man, long time no see!) Bringing keyboards sounds like an > interesting idea. What would everyone think about showing off their > keyboards as a meeting topic? It's an interesting idea. I'd be happy bring one of mine at some point, but not until after then end of June.

June 20, 2023

Re: Keyboard recommendations

by Frank Sweetser

(hey man, long time no see!) Bringing keyboards sounds like an interesting idea. What would everyone think about showing off their keyboards as a meeting topic? On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 8:35 AM Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> wrote: > Frank Sweetser via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > My primary mechanical keyboard that I've been using for a while is > starting > > to go a little flakey on me, even after a few rounds of cleaning, so I'm > > looking to finally replace it. I'm looking for something: > > > > - With fully mechanical keys (replaceable switches would be a nice > bonus) > > - Ergonomic layout, which these days seems to primarily mean a split > > design > > - Illuminated keycaps would be preferred > > > > Anyone have good recommendations they can share? > > I've tried the microsoft sculpt, split keyboards including the kinesis > freestyle and the ultimate hacking keyboard, and the kinesis advantage > (and the older classic). The kinesis advantage/classic is by far the > best for me--nothing else even comes close. I've been using that > keyboard for at least the past 15 years. > > Keyboards are a personal decision, though. I have a couple you could > try out if you want to borrow them--the kinesis classic (ps2 connector > required) and the kinesis freestyle, with the tenting accessory (for > vertical typing). > > Good luck with your hunt! > > -Jeff > > -- - Frank

June 20, 2023

Re: Keyboard recommendations

by Jeff Moyer

Frank Sweetser via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > My primary mechanical keyboard that I've been using for a while is starting > to go a little flakey on me, even after a few rounds of cleaning, so I'm > looking to finally replace it. I'm looking for something: > > - With fully mechanical keys (replaceable switches would be a nice bonus) > - Ergonomic layout, which these days seems to primarily mean a split > design > - Illuminated keycaps would be preferred > > Anyone have good recommendations they can share? I've tried the microsoft sculpt, split keyboards including the kinesis freestyle and the ultimate hacking keyboard, and the kinesis advantage (and the older classic). The kinesis advantage/classic is by far the best for me--nothing else even comes close. I've been using that keyboard for at least the past 15 years. Keyboards are a personal decision, though. I have a couple you could try out if you want to borrow them--the kinesis classic (ps2 connector required) and the kinesis freestyle, with the tenting accessory (for vertical typing). Good luck with your hunt! -Jeff

June 20, 2023

Re: Keyboard recommendations

by Eric Martin

I’m sure you’ve already looked; TrulyErgononic Cleave is my daily driver. It’s super comfy; I’m trying to see if I have a coupon since iirc they sent an email that they’re stopping production. https://trulyergonomic.com/ergonomic-keyboards/mechanical-keyboards/product… Eric > On Jun 16, 2023, at 19:51, Frank Sweetser via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > > My primary mechanical keyboard that I've been using for a while is starting to go a little flakey on me, even after a few rounds of cleaning, so I'm looking to finally replace it. I'm looking for something: > With fully mechanical keys (replaceable switches would be a nice bonus) > Ergonomic layout, which these days seems to primarily mean a split design > Illuminated keycaps would be preferred > Anyone have good recommendations they can share? > -- > - Frank > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/F6ZHF…

June 20, 2023

Re: Keyboard recommendations

by Chuck Anderson

Kinesis Freestyle Edge RGB. On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 07:51:30PM -0400, Frank Sweetser via WLUG wrote: > My primary mechanical keyboard that I've been using for a while is starting > to go a little flakey on me, even after a few rounds of cleaning, so I'm > looking to finally replace it. I'm looking for something: > > - With fully mechanical keys (replaceable switches would be a nice bonus) > - Ergonomic layout, which these days seems to primarily mean a split > design > - Illuminated keycaps would be preferred > > Anyone have good recommendations they can share? > -- > - Frank

June 20, 2023

Re: Keyboard recommendations

by Tim Keller

My two favorite keyboards are as follows: 1. Microsoft/Logitech Ergo keyboards. I've got a couple of these. I do like that out of the box Ubuntu fully supports the macro keys. 2. Kinesis Advantage 2. This keyboard took a bit for me to be comfortable using: https://www.amazon.com/Kinesis-Advantage2-Ergonomic-Keyboard-KB600LFQ Thanks, Tim. On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 10:03 PM Dan Davis via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > I really like my Keychron v1 75% (function keys but no numpad). > > > https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v1-qmk-via-custom-mechanical-key… > > It's good a really heavy aluminum base, hot swap keys, and replaceable > caps. Keeb dorkdom is a REALLY deep rabbit hole as has already been said, > but with something like this you get a very useful keyboard that you can > build on later should you desire. > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 19:51 Frank Sweetser via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> My primary mechanical keyboard that I've been using for a while is >> starting to go a little flakey on me, even after a few rounds of cleaning, >> so I'm looking to finally replace it. I'm looking for something: >> >> - With fully mechanical keys (replaceable switches would be a nice >> bonus) >> - Ergonomic layout, which these days seems to primarily mean a split >> design >> - Illuminated keycaps would be preferred >> >> Anyone have good recommendations they can share? >> -- >> - Frank >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/F6ZHF… >> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/LJUXE… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

June 19, 2023

Re: Keyboard recommendations

by Frank Sweetser

Thanks, I'll check them out! On Mon, Jun 19, 2023, 3:01 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Frank" == Frank Sweetser via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > My primary mechanical keyboard that I've been using for a while is > > starting to go a little flakey on me, even after a few rounds of > > cleaning, so I'm looking to finally replace it. I'm looking for > > something: > > > * With fully mechanical keys (replaceable switches would be a nice > bonus) > > * Ergonomic layout, which these days seems to primarily mean a split > design > > * Illuminated keycaps would be preferred > > > Anyone have good recommendations they can share? > > I've got a pair of WASDkeyboards 'CODE' keyboards. I wish the keycaps > were doubleshot for more durability, but I've been driving these for a > number of years now without any problems. These are TKL boards, not > split, but I find that they are ergonomic enough for me. Also, these > use the 'clear' stems from CherryMX, which means they're not super > loud or clicky. But people would still complain about how loud they > are on some conf calls at times. :-) > > Now that I work from home mostly (99% of the time) I don't help other > user's as much so maybe I should go down the ergonomic rathole and get > something really funky. But having to them move to a laptop and other > machines in the house makes me pause. > > Plus I'd then want to get TWO new keyboards so I have a primary and a > spare for when I needed it. >

June 19, 2023

Re: Keyboard recommendations

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Frank" == Frank Sweetser via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > My primary mechanical keyboard that I've been using for a while is > starting to go a little flakey on me, even after a few rounds of > cleaning, so I'm looking to finally replace it. I'm looking for > something: > * With fully mechanical keys (replaceable switches would be a nice bonus) > * Ergonomic layout, which these days seems to primarily mean a split design > * Illuminated keycaps would be preferred > Anyone have good recommendations they can share? I've got a pair of WASDkeyboards 'CODE' keyboards. I wish the keycaps were doubleshot for more durability, but I've been driving these for a number of years now without any problems. These are TKL boards, not split, but I find that they are ergonomic enough for me. Also, these use the 'clear' stems from CherryMX, which means they're not super loud or clicky. But people would still complain about how loud they are on some conf calls at times. :-) Now that I work from home mostly (99% of the time) I don't help other user's as much so maybe I should go down the ergonomic rathole and get something really funky. But having to them move to a laptop and other machines in the house makes me pause. Plus I'd then want to get TWO new keyboards so I have a primary and a spare for when I needed it.

June 19, 2023