October 2023 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: Debian 12 networking

by Mike Long

Tim, Thanks for your reply. I'm working with an RPI4 with Debian 12 installed as a hobby server. Since ifconfig is being depreciated on Debian I was determined to learn how to use ip. I eventually found this cheat sheet https://access.redhat.com/sites/default/files/attachments/rh_ip_command_che… I was able to manually configure eth0 for network connectivity. Next I did an apt update, apt upgrade successfully. This eliminated the "filtering via arp/ip/ip6tables" error. Now I can continue troubleshooting why network stopped working. This is what I get from sudo systemctl status networking.service × networking.service - Raise network interfaces Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/networking.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: failed (Result: signal) since Fri 2023-10-13 21:01:56 UTC; 7min ago Docs: man:interfaces(5) Process: 1463 ExecStart=/sbin/ifup -a --read-environment (code=killed, signal=BUS) Process: 1464 ExecStopPost=/usr/bin/touch /run/network/restart-hotplug (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) Main PID: 1463 (code=killed, signal=BUS) CPU: 8ms Oct 13 21:01:56 rpi4-20230918 systemd[1]: Starting networking.service - Raise network interfaces... Oct 13 21:01:56 rpi4-20230918 systemd[1]: networking.service: Main process exited, code=killed, status=7/BUS Oct 13 21:01:56 rpi4-20230918 touch[1464]: /usr/bin/touch: cannot touch '/run/network/restart-hotplug': No such file or directory Oct 13 21:01:56 rpi4-20230918 systemd[1]: networking.service: Control process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Oct 13 21:01:56 rpi4-20230918 systemd[1]: networking.service: Failed with result 'signal'. Oct 13 21:01:56 rpi4-20230918 systemd[1]: Failed to start networking.service - Raise network interfaces. Thanks, Mike On 10/12/23 14:57, Tim Keller wrote: > Mike, > > You might want to start by installing the package "net-tools" and > "wireless-tools"; these two packages will get you the "ifconfig" > command as well as the "iwconfig" command. so you can see what the > network is doing. > I'm old school and while I've learned to use the "ip" commands, my > hands naturally want to type "ifconfig -a". > > Thanks, > Tim. > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 7:59 PM Mike Long via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > I installed Debian 12 on a PI4. I got rtl_433 working and > receiving data > while connected to the pi4 using ssh. Once that was accomplished I > rebooted via "sudo shutdown -r now" to verify that all the settings > would survive a reboot. When the pi rebooted it was no longer > available > on the network. I connected to the pi4 console directly and received > this message at the login screen "filtering via arp/ip/ip6tables > is no > longer available by default". > > I am new to debian and not having ifconfig available is a real > handicap > for me. Can someone please offer some advice or point me to resources > that will help me fix this issue. Searching the internet has not > offered > any helpful resources so far. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > Cache content lost > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 13, 2023

Re: Jitsi..

by Tim Keller

Microcenter is showing them available on Oct. 23rd. My plan was to drive there directly before going to work and just be waiting at the door and buy one. Yeah, watching some video's I see the same stuff.. that starting with the pi4, you need active cooling.. which saddens me a bit. I'm using one to drive my 3d printer, and at this point the pi4 with the fan is louder than the printer.. Tim. On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 2:46 PM Joe Sherman <joesherman1979(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I've been hearing if you haven't already ordered a PI 5 then you won't get > one until the 3rd production batch. Unless you can find a store that bought > for their own stock and they haven't sold out yet. > > Also, the PI 5 specs are a mix of good and bad. Good performance, bad > cooling, and lack of hardware decoding for a bunch of video types. > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 2:17 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> I hear you on the "no agenda" issue. I want to get back to having a >> defined topic and actually doing a presentation and then moving onto the >> general conversation. I think many people when they don't see we have a >> topic, decide not to come. >> >> I'm proposing for the next meeting that I do a talk on the useability of >> the pi5. I'm going to buy one as soon as it comes out and start mucking >> with it. >> I'm actually thinking what I might try to do is make it my daily driver >> at home and see how that goes. >> >> Do people like that idea, think it's terrible? Let me know. >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 12:09 PM Joshua Stone < >> joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I didn't notice much of a performance issue with last night's meeting. >>> If anything, the meetings are hard to follow from Jitsi now that most >>> people are joining the meetings in-person but there isn't an agenda or some >>> other signifier for what the topic is. >>> >>> The open-ended conversation format is fine, but doesn't always translate >>> well for anyone joining virtually. >>> >>> One of the nice things about Jitsi Meet is that you can screenshare a >>> slideshow for people to follow, but that doesn't seem to be leveraged. >>> >>> That being said, I would be all for a self-hosted Jitsi! Joining a >>> meeting would be really convenient if it was as simple as clicking on: >>> >>> https://meet.wlug.org >>> >>> - Josh >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 11:19 AM Tim Keller via WLUG < >>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Last night it was brought to my attention that Jitsi has decided to >>>> become more "zoom" like. >>>> That sucks. Moreover, and I've noticed this as well, their free >>>> instance's performance is all over the place.. some meetings the >>>> performance is spot on, other meetings, like last night, it was not so >>>> great. >>>> >>>> There should be zero barriers to people joining the meeting. >>>> >>>> To this end, I'm going to explore what it's going to take to stand up >>>> my own Jitsi instance. Likely hosted in some cloud provider with possibly a >>>> nice DNS entry. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Tim. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >>>> constituents as "consumers". >>>> Cache content lost >>> >>> >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> Cache content lost > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 13, 2023

Re: Jitsi..

by Joe Sherman

I've been hearing if you haven't already ordered a PI 5 then you won't get one until the 3rd production batch. Unless you can find a store that bought for their own stock and they haven't sold out yet. Also, the PI 5 specs are a mix of good and bad. Good performance, bad cooling, and lack of hardware decoding for a bunch of video types. On Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 2:17 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > I hear you on the "no agenda" issue. I want to get back to having a > defined topic and actually doing a presentation and then moving onto the > general conversation. I think many people when they don't see we have a > topic, decide not to come. > > I'm proposing for the next meeting that I do a talk on the useability of > the pi5. I'm going to buy one as soon as it comes out and start mucking > with it. > I'm actually thinking what I might try to do is make it my daily driver at > home and see how that goes. > > Do people like that idea, think it's terrible? Let me know. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 12:09 PM Joshua Stone <joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I didn't notice much of a performance issue with last night's meeting. If >> anything, the meetings are hard to follow from Jitsi now that most people >> are joining the meetings in-person but there isn't an agenda or some other >> signifier for what the topic is. >> >> The open-ended conversation format is fine, but doesn't always translate >> well for anyone joining virtually. >> >> One of the nice things about Jitsi Meet is that you can screenshare a >> slideshow for people to follow, but that doesn't seem to be leveraged. >> >> That being said, I would be all for a self-hosted Jitsi! Joining a >> meeting would be really convenient if it was as simple as clicking on: >> >> https://meet.wlug.org >> >> - Josh >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 11:19 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Last night it was brought to my attention that Jitsi has decided to >>> become more "zoom" like. >>> That sucks. Moreover, and I've noticed this as well, their free >>> instance's performance is all over the place.. some meetings the >>> performance is spot on, other meetings, like last night, it was not so >>> great. >>> >>> There should be zero barriers to people joining the meeting. >>> >>> To this end, I'm going to explore what it's going to take to stand up my >>> own Jitsi instance. Likely hosted in some cloud provider with possibly a >>> nice DNS entry. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Tim. >>> >>> -- >>> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >>> constituents as "consumers". >>> Cache content lost >> >> > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > Cache content lost

Oct. 13, 2023

Re: Jitsi..

by Tim Keller

I hear you on the "no agenda" issue. I want to get back to having a defined topic and actually doing a presentation and then moving onto the general conversation. I think many people when they don't see we have a topic, decide not to come. I'm proposing for the next meeting that I do a talk on the useability of the pi5. I'm going to buy one as soon as it comes out and start mucking with it. I'm actually thinking what I might try to do is make it my daily driver at home and see how that goes. Do people like that idea, think it's terrible? Let me know. Thanks, Tim. On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 12:09 PM Joshua Stone <joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I didn't notice much of a performance issue with last night's meeting. If > anything, the meetings are hard to follow from Jitsi now that most people > are joining the meetings in-person but there isn't an agenda or some other > signifier for what the topic is. > > The open-ended conversation format is fine, but doesn't always translate > well for anyone joining virtually. > > One of the nice things about Jitsi Meet is that you can screenshare a > slideshow for people to follow, but that doesn't seem to be leveraged. > > That being said, I would be all for a self-hosted Jitsi! Joining a meeting > would be really convenient if it was as simple as clicking on: > > https://meet.wlug.org > > - Josh > > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 11:19 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> Last night it was brought to my attention that Jitsi has decided to >> become more "zoom" like. >> That sucks. Moreover, and I've noticed this as well, their free >> instance's performance is all over the place.. some meetings the >> performance is spot on, other meetings, like last night, it was not so >> great. >> >> There should be zero barriers to people joining the meeting. >> >> To this end, I'm going to explore what it's going to take to stand up my >> own Jitsi instance. Likely hosted in some cloud provider with possibly a >> nice DNS entry. >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> Cache content lost > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 13, 2023

Re: Jitsi..

by Joshua Stone

I didn't notice much of a performance issue with last night's meeting. If anything, the meetings are hard to follow from Jitsi now that most people are joining the meetings in-person but there isn't an agenda or some other signifier for what the topic is. The open-ended conversation format is fine, but doesn't always translate well for anyone joining virtually. One of the nice things about Jitsi Meet is that you can screenshare a slideshow for people to follow, but that doesn't seem to be leveraged. That being said, I would be all for a self-hosted Jitsi! Joining a meeting would be really convenient if it was as simple as clicking on: https://meet.wlug.org - Josh On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 11:19 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Last night it was brought to my attention that Jitsi has decided to become > more "zoom" like. > That sucks. Moreover, and I've noticed this as well, their free instance's > performance is all over the place.. some meetings the performance is spot > on, other meetings, like last night, it was not so great. > > There should be zero barriers to people joining the meeting. > > To this end, I'm going to explore what it's going to take to stand up my > own Jitsi instance. Likely hosted in some cloud provider with possibly a > nice DNS entry. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > Cache content lost

Oct. 13, 2023

Jitsi..

by Tim Keller

Last night it was brought to my attention that Jitsi has decided to become more "zoom" like. That sucks. Moreover, and I've noticed this as well, their free instance's performance is all over the place.. some meetings the performance is spot on, other meetings, like last night, it was not so great. There should be zero barriers to people joining the meeting. To this end, I'm going to explore what it's going to take to stand up my own Jitsi instance. Likely hosted in some cloud provider with possibly a nice DNS entry. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 13, 2023

Re: Reminder! Meeting tomorrow @ 7pm @ Technocopia!

by Joel

Bummed that I could not make it. Hope to see you next month. Joel On October 13, 2023 9:17:19 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Last night's meeting was great! > > We got Matt setup with a macbook running Ubuntu, got into the weeds talking about SSSD and rounded it out with some talk about the pi5. > > Kevin then showed off the Eagle file browser. > > Hopefully next month we'll have a pi5 to do some hands on screwing around with! > > Later, > Tim. > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 6:47 PM Patrick McEvilly via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > It’s tonight. Tim corrected it on Meetup. > >> On Oct 12, 2023, at 6:37 PM, Richard Klein via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >> Is the meeting tonight? I got a Meetup notice that said Friday. >> >> -- >> Rich >> >> On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 11:45 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >> Hey gang, >> >> We've got a meeting tomorrow. I'm dying to talking about the pi5, but rudely those chaps from the U.K. decided to release it at the end of the month! >> >> Later, >> Tim. >> >> >> >> >> Cache content lostCache content lost > Cache content lost > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > Cache content lost

Oct. 13, 2023

Re: Reminder! Meeting tomorrow @ 7pm @ Technocopia!

by Tim Keller

Last night's meeting was great! We got Matt setup with a macbook running Ubuntu, got into the weeds talking about SSSD and rounded it out with some talk about the pi5. Kevin then showed off the Eagle file browser. Hopefully next month we'll have a pi5 to do some hands on screwing around with! Later, Tim. On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 6:47 PM Patrick McEvilly via WLUG < wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > It’s tonight. Tim corrected it on Meetup. > > On Oct 12, 2023, at 6:37 PM, Richard Klein via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > > > Is the meeting tonight? I got a Meetup notice that said Friday. > > -- > Rich > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 11:45 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> Hey gang, >> >> We've got a meeting tomorrow. I'm dying to talking about the pi5, but >> rudely those chaps from the U.K. decided to release it at the end of the >> month! >> >> Later, >> Tim. >> >> >> >> >> Cache content lost > > Cache content lost > > Cache content lost -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 13, 2023

Re: Reminder! Meeting tomorrow @ 7pm @ Technocopia!

by Patrick McEvilly

Oct. 12, 2023

Re: Reminder! Meeting tomorrow @ 7pm @ Technocopia!

by Richard Klein

Is the meeting tonight? I got a Meetup notice that said Friday. -- Rich On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 11:45 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hey gang, > > We've got a meeting tomorrow. I'm dying to talking about the pi5, but > rudely those chaps from the U.K. decided to release it at the end of the > month! > > Later, > Tim. > > > > > Cache content lost

Oct. 12, 2023