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Re: Reminder: Virtual Meeting today at 7PM Topic: Emacs awesomeness.

by gmcaplan＠gmcaplan.org

Thank you. The Ubuntu info is concise, understandable, and helpful ... a great combination. George On 2022-01-13 3:56 pm, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > To your first question, you can get your list of installed packages on > Ubuntu by running "apt list --installed" and piping that to a file and > copying that off somewhere safe. You'll likely have to strip that file > a bit. > Then once you've got that file, on your cleanly installed system you > can enumerate over that file with a bash for loop and call "apt install > _package_" > > To your second question, I'm sure we've got an R nerd around here.. > > Tim. > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 3:47 PM gmcaplan--- via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > >> I was hoping to attend, but it looks like I will not be able to. >> I hope it will be recorded because I, too, would like to learn about >> emacs. >> Also, I have two questions: >> 1. I am running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. When I update to ver. 20 or 22, I >> would prefer to do a "clean" re-install, but I have a question. Does >> that mean I must get a list of all my installed software and >> re-install >> them one at a time after I upgrade the OS? If so, is there an easy way >> for me to get the list? >> >> 2. I have been learning to use the software language R. I have a >> couple >> of questions and I would like to hear from anyone who has R >> experience. >> >> Thank You. >> >> George Caplan >> email: gmcaplan(a)gmcaplan.org >> >> On 2022-01-13 1:12 pm, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote: >>> On 1/13/22 12:58, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: >>>> Today he's going to show off some of his emacs foo. >>> >>> Will the talk be recorded? I'd love to hear the talk but can't >>> attend >>> because of a conflict. >>> >>> --MCV. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>> Change Settings: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>> Web Forum/Archive: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/D2QDC… >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/VBG7T… > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/HTDBB…

Jan. 13, 2022

"apt list --installed" ... even has chrome on Mint...and other raves

by Doug Mildram

Hi from doug in Maine ...former WPI netops geek, before that a *NIX admin back to when Vax and Sparc were corporate choices (I guess I've gotten over pining for BSD variants). I supported many emacs geeks (sw/hw developers) then, but never adopted emacs in my pea brain. I guess I preferred vi's stupid modes and ESC and ":" , over CTRL-everything? in emacs. Or maybe I got bit by a macro as a child. For some ancient emacs lore...its security hole Way Back Then is lovingly(ha) mentioned in Clifford Stoll's awesome/fun? book "The Cuckoo's Egg". Just to get root, back then. Access via hopping thru dialup 1200baud modems, and a world where security was off-radar to the engineers owning systems. Even MilNet systems. What fun ! Dumb hacker paradise! One fun line from below: What do you feed a Trojan horse ? Oooh, found a 52-page scan of the book at http://nationalsecurity.gmu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Cuckoos-Egg-Read… But as always, I ramble. George: Great question. I "(d)evolved" into a dumb linux Mint user (a great Ubuntu-based distro ..though you gotta choose, Cinnamon,MATE,Xfce. I chose Mate, 20.1 is stable. I forget the why's, but I know it's good with a few beloved windows keyb tricks like ALT-TAB). As a sysadmin responsible for reloading/building systems, I had to fret packages once, .....obviously this was the cat's meow compared to rebuilding from sources and "make". I remember studying our typical < 1000 RedHat packages and feeling like I knew what most of them were. Now I've got > 2000 on Mint, and barely recognize half of them. Today for fun (Thanks Tim), I looked to see... if the one thing I recall needing to install off-package a few years ago = "chrome" showed up in either my sudo logs (nope) or package list. Chrome got into Mint's distros. So my "apt list --installed" output (3mo old desktop load) shows 2028 packages having chosen the "want 3rd party stuff?" install question...so wonderful..so I have both emacsen-common/focal,focal,now 3.0.4 all [installed] and google-chrome-stable/now 91.0.4472.77-1 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 97.0.4692.71-1] From cmd line, google-chrome (I no longer need on Final side track, I remember years ago saying "amazing...YouTube just works out of box!". Final backtrack...wonder what emacsen-common has, since if I try to launch "emacs" I get Command 'emacs' not found, but can be installed with: sudo apt install e3 # version 1:2.71-2, or sudo apt install emacs-gtk # version 1:26.3+1-1ubuntu2 sudo apt install emacs-lucid # version 1:26.3+1-1ubuntu2 sudo apt install emacs-nox # version 1:26.3+1-1ubuntu2 sudo apt install jove # version 4.17.2.7-1 Pardon my endless rant, hope it doesn't sidetrack today/tonite. I'll be fascinated to see what a recorded session looks like...with chat/comments?

Jan. 13, 2022

linux.conf.au

by Lexi Haley

This is random and literally last minute, but it's day one of Linux.Conf.Au - anyone else virtually attending any sessions? https://linux.conf.au/ Lexi

Jan. 13, 2022

Re: Reminder: Virtual Meeting today at 7PM Topic: Emacs awesomeness.

by Tim Keller

To your first question, you can get your list of installed packages on Ubuntu by running "apt list --installed" and piping that to a file and copying that off somewhere safe. You'll likely have to strip that file a bit. Then once you've got that file, on your cleanly installed system you can enumerate over that file with a bash for loop and call "apt install *package*" To your second question, I'm sure we've got an R nerd around here.. Tim. On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 3:47 PM gmcaplan--- via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > I was hoping to attend, but it looks like I will not be able to. > I hope it will be recorded because I, too, would like to learn about > emacs. > Also, I have two questions: > 1. I am running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. When I update to ver. 20 or 22, I > would prefer to do a "clean" re-install, but I have a question. Does > that mean I must get a list of all my installed software and re-install > them one at a time after I upgrade the OS? If so, is there an easy way > for me to get the list? > > 2. I have been learning to use the software language R. I have a couple > of questions and I would like to hear from anyone who has R experience. > > Thank You. > > George Caplan > email: gmcaplan(a)gmcaplan.org > > > On 2022-01-13 1:12 pm, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote: > > On 1/13/22 12:58, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > >> Today he's going to show off some of his emacs foo. > > > > Will the talk be recorded? I'd love to hear the talk but can't attend > > because of a conflict. > > > > --MCV. > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/D2QDC… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/VBG7T… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 13, 2022

Re: Reminder: Virtual Meeting today at 7PM Topic: Emacs awesomeness.

by gmcaplan＠gmcaplan.org

I was hoping to attend, but it looks like I will not be able to. I hope it will be recorded because I, too, would like to learn about emacs. Also, I have two questions: 1. I am running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. When I update to ver. 20 or 22, I would prefer to do a "clean" re-install, but I have a question. Does that mean I must get a list of all my installed software and re-install them one at a time after I upgrade the OS? If so, is there an easy way for me to get the list? 2. I have been learning to use the software language R. I have a couple of questions and I would like to hear from anyone who has R experience. Thank You. George Caplan email: gmcaplan(a)gmcaplan.org On 2022-01-13 1:12 pm, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote: > On 1/13/22 12:58, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: >> Today he's going to show off some of his emacs foo. > > Will the talk be recorded? I'd love to hear the talk but can't attend > because of a conflict. > > --MCV. > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/D2QDC…

Jan. 13, 2022

Re: Reminder: Virtual Meeting today at 7PM Topic: Emacs awesomeness.

by Tim Keller

There is a record button in Jitsi, I can definitely record it! On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 1:13 PM Michael Voorhis via WLUG < wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > On 1/13/22 12:58, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > > Today he's going to show off some of his emacs foo. > > Will the talk be recorded? I'd love to hear the talk but can't attend > because of a conflict. > > --MCV. > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/D2QDC… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 13, 2022

Re: Reminder: Virtual Meeting today at 7PM Topic: Emacs awesomeness.

by Michael Voorhis

On 1/13/22 12:58, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > Today he's going to show off some of his emacs foo. Will the talk be recorded? I'd love to hear the talk but can't attend because of a conflict. --MCV.

Jan. 13, 2022

Reminder: Virtual Meeting today at 7PM Topic: Emacs awesomeness.

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, This is a reminder we've got a meeting today. The presenter is my co-worker, lisp ninja, emacs badass Kalman. Beyond being a emacs wizard, he's also a mainframe guru, a unix/linux guru and is/was deeply involved in the writing/maintaining of the symbolics lisp operating system. Today he's going to show off some of his emacs foo. If you think emacs is an editor of a bygone era when things were more civilized, kalman will likely not change your mind. However, if you want to take your emacs usage to the next level you'll love this talk. If you're totally not into emacs, that's okay, come along for the ride all the same. Expect the usual banter, tangents and fun. We'll also talk about what we'll want todo for the next meeting. See ya at the meeting! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 13, 2022

January 13th 2022 Virtual Meeting! Topic: Using Emacs for fun and pro fit.

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang! We've got a meeting on Thursday! In light of the recent surge in Omicron (I managed to get exposed on NYE) I'm going to make this month's meeting virtual. Hopefully next month we can get back to our regularly scheduled in person meetings! Date/Time: January 13th 2022 @ 7pm! Location: Our virtual meeting place: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: Using Emacs for fun and pro fit! Presenter: Kalman Reti This meeting's guest speaker is my amazing co-worker Kalman Reti. If you've never used emacs or used it for years, you'll love this talk. If you hate emacs, well, there's nothing to be said other than to come along and jeer. Kalman is many things, but one of them is a power user of emacs. He's agreed to show off some of his emacs kung fu. In this talk you'll learn some emacs history, likely some lisp and definitely some tricks. Beyond being an emacs guru, he's also a fountain of knowledge of all things unix/linux and beyond! Along the way, I'm sure we'll engage in our usual banter, side tracks and fun. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 10, 2022

Re: Interactive regular expression tutorial

by Eric Martin

I’m a big fan of RegEx golf https://alf.nu/RegexGolf, and there’s more great stuff at Alf.nu as well. Eric > On Jan 6, 2022, at 16:26, Aljerin Butler,Jr. via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > > Here are some more resources on regex that may be useful: > http://customdesktopsolutions.mywebcommunity.org/index.php/linux-system-adm… > > > > > On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 02:16:19 PM EST, kstratton--- via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > > Found this. It might be old news, but I thought it was cool enough to share. > > https://regexone.com > > -- > > kstratton(a)fastmail.us > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/DJIHW… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/3NVFX…

Jan. 7, 2022