April 2020 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Does LINUX still exist?

by Ken Jones

I am trying for figure out what, if anything, of FEDORA RED HAT LINUX is still available. I have downloaded a DVD that I plan to install on my DELL XPS desktop PC running WINDOWS 10. Will it find for me my old LINUX atmosphere? Ken Jones

April 3, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: [EXT] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ?

by Krichevsky, Nicholas J.

So this isn't free "as in beer" but I just saw https://wire.com/en/ mentioned on HackerNews today. Source code is GPL3, but it looks like they handle the hosting for 4 euro/user/month. They mention in their FAQ that you can self-host, but it sounds like you still have to pay to do that. Not sure if they have a guide to just run it yourself but I'm sure you can... you have the source... [https://wire-docs.wire.com/kalina/wire-icon.png]<https://wire.com/en/> The most secure collaboration platform · Wire<https://wire.com/en/> Wire is actively leading the work on extending its security standards to become the norm for protecting organizations' digital assets. Messaging Layer Security (MLS) is a new protocol designed to firm up the security of enterprise messaging platforms by employing end-to-end encryption within group communication. wire.com ________________________________ From: Chris Thompson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:34 PM To: wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Cc: Chris Thompson <wolcen(a)riseup.net> Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Re: [EXT] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ? I know it's been mentioned, but wanted to point to two instances of it I use frequently and offer some additional feedback. There's the "premier" one, which is at https://meet.jit.si/<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeet.jit.…> and is very often running the very latest version. The Mayfirst COOP also hosts an instance at https://meet.mayfirst.org/<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeet.mayf…> This doesn't tend to be upgraded quite so frequently, so unless it lands on a poor version, it's a great one to use. Usually "just works" on phone/desktop fine. It can be a little glitchy, and has not often performed very well for my coop more than about 10 participants or so. Desktop sharing, video, audio, and chat as well as other features all function well on GNU/Linux save for some difficulty I had with Sway WM/Wayland (which may well have been my shortcoming). I'm not sure how dependent the limits we've seen are dependent upon the infrastructure available, but I'm told it's not terribly difficult to deploy an instance, but have yet to try myself. FWIW, nearly every time, a quick page refresh (or two) for whomever is having issues gets things working. TBH, it's best to have a backup connection when using Jitsi (i.e. text msg, etherpad, or IRC or whatever), or else to work with more experienced users - e.g. those that will notice a message/open the chat pane to read that they cannot be heard and to either un-mute or else refresh their page. --Chris On 3/25/20 11:53 AM, Bradley Noyes via WLUG wrote: I have never used this software, but apparently nextcloud can do some kind of video conferencing with their package call “spreed" https://github.com/nextcloud/spreed<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.co…> On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:55, Krichevsky, Nicholas J. via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> wrote: How much do you care about it being *VIDEO* by the way? If it's not important, there's always Mumble... Get Outlook for Android<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2F…> ________________________________ From: Michael Voorhis via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:53:52 AM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> Cc: Voorhis, Michael C <mvoorhis(a)wpi.edu<mailto:mvoorhis@wpi.edu>>; Joshua Stone <joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com<mailto:joshua.gage.stone@gmail.com>> Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ? On 3/25/20 10:38 AM, Joshua Stone via WLUG wrote: > Zoom is a good option if using a Pro subscription. We're digressing a bit from the discussion-topic which is *free* videoconferencing. My email was in retrospect ambiguous; I made assumptions based on the listenership of my email. I was asking about FOSS videoconferencing. Jitsi appears to be the only answer at this point. 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April 2, 2020

Re: [EXT] April WLUG meeting to be online

by THE HAMMER

Can you advise the group on instructions to join in when/if possible? ________________________________ From: Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 9:31 AM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Cc: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu>; Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> Subject: [WLUG] Re: [EXT] April WLUG meeting to be online What fun is that ;-) On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 9:29 AM Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> wrote: Or we could just use the one they host: https://meet.jit.si/ On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 08:42:56AM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > A buddy of mine runs one. I'll pick his brains regarding what it needs for > bandwidth and horsepower. > > I suspect I've got sufficient quantities of that at my house. > > If not, I'll think about spinning up a droplet. > > Tim. > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 6:45 AM Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> > wrote: > > > Let's try Jitsi. > > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:34:37AM -0400, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > > > Hey Gang, > > > > > > I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need > > > virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals. > > > > > > As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online. > > > I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others. > > > > > > What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup? > > > > > > Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!! > > > > > > Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon. > > > > > > Later, > > > Tim. _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/R2F74… -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 1, 2020

Re: [EXT] April WLUG meeting to be online

by Tim Keller

What fun is that ;-) On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 9:29 AM Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Or we could just use the one they host: > > https://meet.jit.si/ > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 08:42:56AM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > A buddy of mine runs one. I'll pick his brains regarding what it needs > for > > bandwidth and horsepower. > > > > I suspect I've got sufficient quantities of that at my house. > > > > If not, I'll think about spinning up a droplet. > > > > Tim. > > > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 6:45 AM Chuck Anderson via WLUG < > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Let's try Jitsi. > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:34:37AM -0400, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > > > > Hey Gang, > > > > > > > > I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't > need > > > > virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals. > > > > > > > > As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting > online. > > > > I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others. > > > > > > > > What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup? > > > > > > > > Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for > dinner!! > > > > > > > > Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon. > > > > > > > > Later, > > > > Tim. > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/R2F74… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 1, 2020

Re: [EXT] April WLUG meeting to be online

by Chuck Anderson

Or we could just use the one they host: https://meet.jit.si/ On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 08:42:56AM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > A buddy of mine runs one. I'll pick his brains regarding what it needs for > bandwidth and horsepower. > > I suspect I've got sufficient quantities of that at my house. > > If not, I'll think about spinning up a droplet. > > Tim. > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 6:45 AM Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > > > Let's try Jitsi. > > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:34:37AM -0400, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > > > Hey Gang, > > > > > > I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need > > > virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals. > > > > > > As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online. > > > I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others. > > > > > > What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup? > > > > > > Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!! > > > > > > Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon. > > > > > > Later, > > > Tim.

April 1, 2020

Re: [EXT] April WLUG meeting to be online

by Tim Keller

A buddy of mine runs one. I'll pick his brains regarding what it needs for bandwidth and horsepower. I suspect I've got sufficient quantities of that at my house. If not, I'll think about spinning up a droplet. Tim. On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 6:45 AM Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Let's try Jitsi. > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:34:37AM -0400, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > > > I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need > > virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals. > > > > As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online. > > I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others. > > > > What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup? > > > > Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!! > > > > Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon. > > > > Later, > > Tim. > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/YHIZC… >

April 1, 2020

Re: [EXT] April WLUG meeting to be online

by Chuck Anderson

Let's try Jitsi. On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:34:37AM -0400, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > Hey Gang, > > I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need > virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals. > > As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online. > I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others. > > What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup? > > Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!! > > Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon. > > Later, > Tim.

April 1, 2020