February 2020 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: sorry about the spam

by Keith Wright

Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Sorry about the spam. I'm cleaning up spam from the moderator's queue > and accidently accepted a 8 or 12 messages. I think I counted 14 in a few minutes. Thank you for your work. I'm glad to know that someone knows why it happened, and that it is not just another "new normal". -- Keith

Feb. 10, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: GRUB failure

by Michael Voorhis

Tell us more about this dead SSD. Who made it? How old was it? What sort of load did you put on it? --MCV. On 2/9/20 3:24 PM, Richard Klein via WLUG wrote: > Well, the installer can't partition or write to the SSD, so I guess > it really is dead.

Feb. 9, 2020

Re: GRUB failure

by rich＠richardklein.org

Well, the installer can't partition or write to the SSD, so I guess it really is dead. Should I write a new MBR to the spinning disk that has Windows installed so I can boot to it without having the SSD installed?

Feb. 9, 2020

GRUB failure

by Richard Klein

The other day, my computer crashed to a blank, black screen. On reboot, my BIOS didn't see the SSD that held my OS. I tried swapping the SSD onto different cables and different motherboard connectors. When I started the computer back up, it saw the SSD, but gave me a GRUB rescue prompt. On the next reboot, the BIOS again didn't see the SSD. That's repeatable: warm boots make the SSD disappear; it re-appears on cold boots, but dumps me to the GRUB rescue prompt. I figured the SSD has died and I already requested an RMA, but I can't boot to my Windows drive if I remove the SSD, so maybe it's not actually dead. I don't have the patience to troubleshoot from the GRUB rescue prompt and I wasn't thrilled with Manjaro, so I'm going to try to install good, old Debian to the SSD while I wait to hear back about an RMA. -- Rich

Feb. 9, 2020

Reminder: WLUG Meeting Next Week! Topic: Modernizing the Linux Desktop

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, This is my usual reminder that we've got a meeting next week. Here's the details... Date & Time: February 13th, 2020 @ 7PM Location: WPI Campus Center Room 304 (Peterson Conference Room) Presenter: Joshua Stone Topic: Modernizing the Linux Desktop with Silver/Blue, Toolbox and Flatpak Our speaker this month is Joshua Stone. He's going to giving a talk about a couple of cool technologies in Fedora! Josh provided me some details about these innovations so I've mashed them up and included them below. Silverblue: https://fedoramagazine.org/what-is-silverblue/ Toolbox: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/toolbox/ Flatpaks: https://flatpak.org/ *Silverblue* s a Fedora variant designed around immutability where a new system image is committed as the new /sysroot without affecting the state of the running system. This is reminiscent of Android A/B updates, although the update backend -- ostree -- has elements of a version control system like git. *Toolbox* is also interesting as it lets you switch into an unprivileged development environment that can be built up and torn down without affecting the host as tools are installed inside a container. *Flatpak* uses the same file storage backend as Silverblue to manage apps and shared runtimes. This app distribution technology allows you to decouple apps and operating systems as everything is built and run inside a sandbox, making upgrades easier. Compare needing only one version of an app to package as a flatpak, versus packaging for different versions. As usual, snacks and refreshments will be provided and afterwards we'll head off for dinner to continue the conversation. Thanks, Tim Keller WLUG President -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Feb. 9, 2020

Re: Favorite email client for Linux these days?

by Jeff Moyer

Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Per the conversation regarding pgp, it got me thinking about my "email flow" > > Currently I'm using gmail in a browser, but I realize that unless I want to > install a 3rd party add-on for chrome I can't really do PGP. > > What are people using for mail clients on linux? gnus. It handles high traffic mailing lists well, and is very configurable. -Jeff

Feb. 5, 2020

Re: Favorite email client for Linux these days?

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Keith" == Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> writes: VM is a mail mode for emacs, and I've been using it for years and years. Unfortunately development is basically dead because I will never be able to learn elisp to actually contribute to the project. https://launchpad.net/vm Is where you can get it from. Use the 8.2.0b version. I can give you hints on setting it up with an IMAP server as well. It's not too bad really. Keith> John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: Keith> I use emacs in rmail mode. >> >> Wow! I used rmail years ago, before I switched to 'vm' (view-mail). Keith> What is that? >> Glad to know I'm not the only die hard emacs mail reading guy! Keith> That seems to be saying that 'vm' is an emacs mode. Keith> The usual help function does not tell me anything Keith> about it. Do I need a newer version of emacs, Keith> or is it a totally separate program? Keith> I'm not likely to quit using emacs, but I might Keith> switch minor modes. Keith> -- Keith

Feb. 3, 2020

Re: Favorite email client for Linux these days?

by Keith Wright

John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Keith> I use emacs in rmail mode. > > Wow! I used rmail years ago, before I switched to 'vm' (view-mail). What is that? > Glad to know I'm not the only die hard emacs mail reading guy! That seems to be saying that 'vm' is an emacs mode. The usual help function does not tell me anything about it. Do I need a newer version of emacs, or is it a totally separate program? I'm not likely to quit using emacs, but I might switch minor modes. -- Keith

Feb. 3, 2020

Re: Favorite email client for Linux these days?

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Keith" == Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: Keith> Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> What are people using for mail clients on linux? Keith> I use emacs in rmail mode. Wow! I used rmail years ago, before I switched to 'vm' (view-mail). Glad to know I'm not the only die hard emacs mail reading guy! Keith> I have a gmail account with address I have Keith> never told anyone (tho a couple of people Keith> have found it using gmail's spy features). Keith> I use the gmail address to send mail to Keith> myself, for testing. I run Postfix smtp server Keith> on the firewall/server/router Linux machine Keith> in my basement. Keith> Software, hardware, cables, attitude ... everything Keith> is decades obsolete and held together by cobwebs. Keith> But it does what the RFC says it MUST. Keith> -- Keith Keith> _______________________________________________ Keith> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org Keith> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org

Feb. 3, 2020

Re: Favorite email client for Linux these days?

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: Tim> Per the conversation regarding pgp, it got me thinking about my "email flow" Tim> Currently I'm using gmail in a browser, but I realize that unless I want to install a 3rd party Tim> add-on for chrome I can't really do PGP. Tim> What are people using for mail clients on linux? view-mail in emacs. Been 20+ years now... it handles IMAP just fine, though slowly. Going to move to mutt one day, but not yet.

Feb. 3, 2020