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Re: Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by Doug Mildram

I blame your router for being weak and paranoid, seeing the newest client OS made it run into your back room with the cash register open. Now your router may be running Windows, or DOS? The community also includes trolls (like me). Greasy foul-mouthed comedians once under the hood, now lurking everywhere. They took over the underground pathways starting with your sewer system. They figured out that the command line is how to control all those posers like gnomes wizards and elves. On Sat, Jan 5, 2019, 10:13 AM Dennis Payne via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org wrote: > That's a common myth. Windows is actually controlled by wizards. Instead > of doing a task directly, you must go through the steps the wizard requires. > > http://identicalsoftware.com/dulsi/fantasy_os.txt > > On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 09:28 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > > So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My company gave > me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with windows 10... no worries I'll > just quick grab the 18.10 ubuntu iso and use one of the various tools to > create a bootable USB... > > The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell broke loose. > I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because I assume it'll just send my > wifi info back to a mothership somewhere. > > My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to yank the power > sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge and reboot. > > Windows... evil to the core... > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- > > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >

Jan. 6, 2019

Re: Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by David Glaser

Followed by the Luggage! On 1/5/19 10:15 AM, Frank Sweetser via WLUG wrote: > Yup - unfortunately the wizzard in question is usually Rincewind... > > On Sat, Jan 5, 2019, 10:13 AM Dennis Payne via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > That's a common myth. Windows is actually controlled by wizards. > Instead of doing a task directly, you must go through the steps > the wizard requires. > > http://identicalsoftware.com/dulsi/fantasy_os.txt > > On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 09:28 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: >> So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My >> company gave me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with windows >> 10... no worries I'll just quick grab the 18.10 ubuntu iso and >> use one of the various tools to create a bootable USB... >> >> The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell >> broke loose. I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because I >> assume it'll just send my wifi info back to a mothership somewhere. >> >> My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to yank the >> power sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge and reboot. >> >> Windows... evil to the core... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> > > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org

Jan. 5, 2019

Re: Jan. WLUG Meeting: Jan 10th, Topic: Keith's talk!

by Richard Klein

So, social engineering? Spear-phishing? :-) On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 11:33 AM Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes (edited): > > > We've got a meeting on Thursday, January 10th, 2019 @ 7pm. > > Location: WPI Campus Center, Taylor Room 128. > > > Topic: I'm not sure of the tile, but esteemed > > longtime member Keith Wright will be giving a talk! > > The reminders will definitely have the topic name in > > them, hint, hint... > > I don't know, it's kind of a melange of what I have been > doing and thinking about and not doing and forgetting... > > Let's call it "A Scheme to Bootstrap Trust". > > -- Keith > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >

Jan. 5, 2019

Re: Jan. WLUG Meeting: Jan 10th, Topic: Keith's talk!

by Keith Wright

Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes (edited): > We've got a meeting on Thursday, January 10th, 2019 @ 7pm. > Location: WPI Campus Center, Taylor Room 128. > Topic: I'm not sure of the tile, but esteemed > longtime member Keith Wright will be giving a talk! > The reminders will definitely have the topic name in > them, hint, hint... I don't know, it's kind of a melange of what I have been doing and thinking about and not doing and forgetting... Let's call it "A Scheme to Bootstrap Trust". -- Keith

Jan. 5, 2019

Re: Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by Frank Sweetser

Yup - unfortunately the wizzard in question is usually Rincewind... On Sat, Jan 5, 2019, 10:13 AM Dennis Payne via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org wrote: > That's a common myth. Windows is actually controlled by wizards. Instead > of doing a task directly, you must go through the steps the wizard requires. > > http://identicalsoftware.com/dulsi/fantasy_os.txt > > On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 09:28 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > > So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My company gave > me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with windows 10... no worries I'll > just quick grab the 18.10 ubuntu iso and use one of the various tools to > create a bootable USB... > > The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell broke loose. > I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because I assume it'll just send my > wifi info back to a mothership somewhere. > > My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to yank the power > sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge and reboot. > > Windows... evil to the core... > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- > > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >

Jan. 5, 2019

Re: Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by Dennis Payne

That's a common myth. Windows is actually controlled by wizards. Instead of doing a task directly, you must go through the steps the wizard requires. http://identicalsoftware.com/dulsi/fantasy_os.txt id="-x-evo-selection-start-marker"> On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 09:28 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My company > gave me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with windows 10... no > worries I'll just quick grab the 18.10 ubuntu iso and use one of the > various tools to create a bootable USB... > The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell broke > loose. I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because I assume it'll > just send my wifi info back to a mothership somewhere. > > My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to yank the > power sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge and reboot. > > Windows... evil to the core... > > _______________________________________________WLUG mailing list -- > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org

Jan. 5, 2019

Jan. WLUG Meeting: Jan 10th, Topic: Keith's talk!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, We've got a meeting on Thursday, January 10th, 2019 @ 7pm. Topic: I'm not sure of the tile, but esteemed longtime member Keith Wright will be giving a talk! The reminders will definitely have the topic name in them, hint, hint... Location: WPI Campus Center, Taylor Room 128. As usual refreshments and snacks will be provided and afterwards we'll head off for dinner to keep the conversation going. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 5, 2019

Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by Tim Keller

So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My company gave me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with windows 10... no worries I'll just quick grab the 18.10 ubuntu iso and use one of the various tools to create a bootable USB... The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell broke loose. I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because I assume it'll just send my wifi info back to a mothership somewhere. My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to yank the power sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge and reboot. Windows... evil to the core... -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 5, 2019

Re: Dec. Topic: DMARC, SPF ...; Jan. Topic: Keith's Problem

by Tim Keller

Excellent Keith! That was the plan and I'm glad we're sticking with it! Thanks, Tim. On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:49 PM Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes (edited): > > > Hey Everybody! > > > > We've got a meeting [tomorrow] Next Week! > > Date & Time: 2019-Jan-10 + 24:00 UTC > > Location: WPI Student Center Mid Century Room (rm 331) > > According to the calendar at http://www.wlug.org/ > there is a meeting next Thursday. Before the > last meeting I volunteered to make a presentation, > mainly because I thought there were no other volunteers. > That turned out not to be the case. Frank gave an > excellent presentation of newer email protocols. > The meeting ended with Tim saying I (Keith) would do it > next time and me saying I could not promise that > because sometimes I have overriding Thursday commitments. > > I can now say that I am free next Thursday, and therefore > plan to attend WLUG and can do it then. > > Alternately, if someone else has a plan for next meeting > I can do it some other time. No hurry. No worry. > > -- Keith Wright, > Programmer in Chief, Free Computer Shop > http://www.free-comp-shop.com/ > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 5, 2019

Re: cool HW-info linux/bsd tool "inxi"

by Kevin W Stratton

I am considering getting a desktop document reader/scanner for my linux desktop. I am hoping to do all of the following with the camera. 1) scan documents or book pages for OCR. From what I can determine 8MP is desirable for this. 2) view close ups large enough to inspect the solder (or at least the presence of) on fine pitch devices. (Electronics) 3) Use it as a web cam. I suspect my desktop is powerful enough to read the camera at the 30FPS, does webcam software in linux reduce the image enough quality for skype to work with a SLOW broadband connection? I am asking for opinions/suggestions. Here are the links to the two I am considering. https://www.amazon.com/IPEVO-Definition-Document-Camera-5-880-4-01-00/dp/B0… And its more expensive cousin, even if it is too expensive for my budget. I HATE buying things twice. https://www.amazon.com/Ipevo-5-883-4-01-00-VZ-R-Document-Camera/dp/B0784RZN…

Jan. 5, 2019