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Re: So about the Feb. Meeting... it falls on valentines day...

by Gelman, Ian S

WLUG singles-only movie night on the 14th then? -- Ian (From mobile device) ________________________________ From: Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 3:34:07 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion Cc: Tim Keller Subject: [WLUG] Re: So about the Feb. Meeting... it falls on valentines day... It doesn't fly well with wife's either... On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 12:23 PM thinkbrown--- via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> wrote: Yeah, I can't imagine the girlfriend would be too happy with me. I'm happy to opt for the 21st On Mon, Jan 7, 2019, 10:31 Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote: We can talk about this at the meeting but looking at at calendar the Feb. WLUG meeting is going to fall on Valentines day. I see this as a problem... Why don't we move it to the 21st preemptively. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 7, 2019

Re: So about the Feb. Meeting... it falls on valentines day...

by Tim Keller

It doesn't fly well with wife's either... On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 12:23 PM thinkbrown--- via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Yeah, I can't imagine the girlfriend would be too happy with me. > > I'm happy to opt for the 21st > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019, 10:31 Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org wrote: > >> We can talk about this at the meeting but looking at at calendar the Feb. >> WLUG meeting is going to fall on Valentines day. >> >> I see this as a problem... Why don't we move it to the 21st preemptively. >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 7, 2019

Re: So about the Feb. Meeting... it falls on valentines day...

by thinkbrown＠gmail.com

Yeah, I can't imagine the girlfriend would be too happy with me. I'm happy to opt for the 21st On Mon, Jan 7, 2019, 10:31 Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org wrote: > We can talk about this at the meeting but looking at at calendar the Feb. > WLUG meeting is going to fall on Valentines day. > > I see this as a problem... Why don't we move it to the 21st preemptively. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >

Jan. 7, 2019

Re: So about the Feb. Meeting... it falls on valentines day...

by Eric Martin

Good call -- Eric > On Jan 7, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > We can talk about this at the meeting but looking at at calendar the Feb. WLUG meeting is going to fall on Valentines day. > > I see this as a problem... Why don't we move it to the 21st preemptively. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org

Jan. 7, 2019

So about the Feb. Meeting... it falls on valentines day...

by Tim Keller

We can talk about this at the meeting but looking at at calendar the Feb. WLUG meeting is going to fall on Valentines day. I see this as a problem... Why don't we move it to the 21st preemptively. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 7, 2019

WLUG Meeting THIS Thursday Jan. 10th, 2019! Topic: A Scheme to bootstrap Trust

by Tim Keller

Here are the pertinent details: Date & Time: Jan. 10th, 2019 @ 7pm Location: WPI Student Center Room 128 "Taylor Room" It's the room at the BOTTOM of the stairs. Topic: A Scheme to Bootstrap Trust. Presenter: Dr. Keith Wright. Snacks and Refreshments will be provided and we'll head off for dinner afterwards to continue to conversation. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 7, 2019

Re: Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by Robert Schwein

I usually reserve more than a half day for updates once a W10 fresh install is accomplished. Nice when getting paid by the hour. Bob On 1/6/2019 3:06 PM, Kevin W Stratton via WLUG wrote: > > I have seen firewalls, when downloading a large file, reduce in > performance until the connection appears to freeze. The comment about > the router being old has SOME validity. Would a firmware update of > the router be in order? I have come to expect a new windows box to be > busy for a while doing updates when it is first turned on (*ugh*). > > > On 1/6/19 9:02 AM, Joseph Guarino via WLUG wrote: >> LMAO! I wonder what Wireshark, tcpdump or even ntopng would have to >> say about what you are experiencing. 😱 Perhaps you are right. It >> must be the wizards! 😂 >> >> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 8:48 AM Doug Mildram via WLUG >> <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> wrote: >> >> I blame your router for being weak and paranoid, seeing the >> newest client OS made it run into your back room with the cash >> register open. Now your router may be running Windows, or DOS? >> >> The community also includes trolls (like me). Greasy foul-mouthed >> comedians once under the hood, now lurking everywhere. They took >> over the underground pathways starting with your sewer system. >> They figured out that the command line is how to control all >> those posers like gnomes wizards and elves. >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 5, 2019, 10:13 AM Dennis Payne via WLUG >> <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote: >> >> That's a common myth. Windows is actually controlled by >> wizards. Instead of doing a task directly, you must go >> through the steps the wizard requires. >> >> http://identicalsoftware.com/dulsi/fantasy_os.txt >> >> On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 09:28 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: >>> So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My >>> company gave me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with >>> windows 10... no worries I'll just quick grab the 18.10 >>> ubuntu iso and use one of the various tools to create a >>> bootable USB... >>> >>> The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell >>> broke loose. I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because >>> I assume it'll just send my wifi info back to a mothership >>> somewhere. >>> >>> My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to >>> yank the power sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge >>> and reboot. >>> >>> Windows... evil to the core... >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WLUG mailing list -- >>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list --wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email towlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org

Jan. 6, 2019

Re: Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by Kevin W Stratton

I have seen firewalls, when downloading a large file, reduce in performance until the connection appears to freeze. The comment about the router being old has SOME validity. Would a firmware update of the router be in order? I have come to expect a new windows box to be busy for a while doing updates when it is first turned on (*ugh*). On 1/6/19 9:02 AM, Joseph Guarino via WLUG wrote: > LMAO! I wonder what Wireshark, tcpdump or even ntopng would have to > say about what you are experiencing. 😱 Perhaps you are right. It must > be the wizards! 😂 > > On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 8:48 AM Doug Mildram via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> wrote: > > I blame your router for being weak and paranoid, seeing the newest > client OS made it run into your back room with the cash register > open. Now your router may be running Windows, or DOS? > > The community also includes trolls (like me). Greasy foul-mouthed > comedians once under the hood, now lurking everywhere. They took > over the underground pathways starting with your sewer system. > They figured out that the command line is how to control all those > posers like gnomes wizards and elves. > > > On Sat, Jan 5, 2019, 10:13 AM Dennis Payne via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > That's a common myth. Windows is actually controlled by > wizards. Instead of doing a task directly, you must go through > the steps the wizard requires. > > http://identicalsoftware.com/dulsi/fantasy_os.txt > > On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 09:28 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: >> So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My >> company gave me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with >> windows 10... no worries I'll just quick grab the 18.10 >> ubuntu iso and use one of the various tools to create a >> bootable USB... >> >> The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell >> broke loose. I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because I >> assume it'll just send my wifi info back to a mothership >> somewhere. >> >> My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to yank >> the power sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge and reboot. >> >> Windows... evil to the core... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> > > > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org

Jan. 6, 2019

Re: Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by Tim Keller

I fully admit my router is a POS. I've needed and wanted an excess to upgrade it, now I have some ammo... Sorry honey the wifi is down... the new machine crashed the router... we'll just have to buy a new one... I'll bring this machine to work tomorrow and see how it fairs there... On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 9:02 AM Joseph Guarino via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > LMAO! I wonder what Wireshark, tcpdump or even ntopng would have to say > about what you are experiencing. 😱 Perhaps you are right. It must be the > wizards! 😂 > > On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 8:48 AM Doug Mildram via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> I blame your router for being weak and paranoid, seeing the newest client >> OS made it run into your back room with the cash register open. Now your >> router may be running Windows, or DOS? >> >> The community also includes trolls (like me). Greasy foul-mouthed >> comedians once under the hood, now lurking everywhere. They took over the >> underground pathways starting with your sewer system. They figured out that >> the command line is how to control all those posers like gnomes wizards and >> elves. >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 5, 2019, 10:13 AM Dennis Payne via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> wrote: >> >>> That's a common myth. Windows is actually controlled by wizards. Instead >>> of doing a task directly, you must go through the steps the wizard requires. >>> >>> http://identicalsoftware.com/dulsi/fantasy_os.txt >>> >>> On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 09:28 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: >>> >>> So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My company >>> gave me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with windows 10... no worries >>> I'll just quick grab the 18.10 ubuntu iso and use one of the various tools >>> to create a bootable USB... >>> >>> The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell broke >>> loose. I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because I assume it'll just >>> send my wifi info back to a mothership somewhere. >>> >>> My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to yank the power >>> sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge and reboot. >>> >>> Windows... evil to the core... >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> WLUG mailing list -- >>> >>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> >>> wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 6, 2019

Re: Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by Joseph Guarino

LMAO! I wonder what Wireshark, tcpdump or even ntopng would have to say about what you are experiencing. 😱 Perhaps you are right. It must be the wizards! 😂 On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 8:48 AM Doug Mildram via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > I blame your router for being weak and paranoid, seeing the newest client > OS made it run into your back room with the cash register open. Now your > router may be running Windows, or DOS? > > The community also includes trolls (like me). Greasy foul-mouthed > comedians once under the hood, now lurking everywhere. They took over the > underground pathways starting with your sewer system. They figured out that > the command line is how to control all those posers like gnomes wizards and > elves. > > > On Sat, Jan 5, 2019, 10:13 AM Dennis Payne via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > wrote: > >> That's a common myth. Windows is actually controlled by wizards. Instead >> of doing a task directly, you must go through the steps the wizard requires. >> >> http://identicalsoftware.com/dulsi/fantasy_os.txt >> >> On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 09:28 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: >> >> So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My company gave >> me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with windows 10... no worries I'll >> just quick grab the 18.10 ubuntu iso and use one of the various tools to >> create a bootable USB... >> >> The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell broke loose. >> I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because I assume it'll just send my >> wifi info back to a mothership somewhere. >> >> My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to yank the power >> sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge and reboot. >> >> Windows... evil to the core... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> WLUG mailing list -- >> >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> >> wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >

Jan. 6, 2019