July 2012 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

x86 Android VM

by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com

Has anyone played with the x86 android images? I've tried running it under kvm but can't seem to get networking to work. I tried 4.0 rc1 a while ago. Looks like I may have found my answers on the release notes. It says ethernet doesn't work. Looks like 2.2 is the last version with working ethernet. That's disappointing. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

July 20, 2012

Re: [Wlug] September meeting topic?

by Steve Pelland

Karl, When are you going to do this talk? I can bring my Pi as well. I am running Debian on mine. I'd also be interested in what others may be doing or would like to do. Thanks Steve On Jul 13, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Wolf Bronski wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Karl Lind <electrolind(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Howdy all, > > I would like to give a talk on the Raspberry Pi project and I have two > of them to demonstrate various OS's (I have worked with the Debian and > Fedora implementations and look forward to the others as they come > out.). I have four SD cards, so that's the number of OS's I can bring > with me. > > Have a great summer! > > Karl > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > Sounds great. I'd like to attend that if it gets going. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

July 14, 2012

Re: [Wlug] September meeting topic?

by Wolf Bronski

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Karl Lind <electrolind(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Howdy all, > > I would like to give a talk on the Raspberry Pi project and I have two > of them to demonstrate various OS's (I have worked with the Debian and > Fedora implementations and look forward to the others as they come > out.). I have four SD cards, so that's the number of OS's I can bring > with me. > > Have a great summer! > > Karl > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Sounds great. I'd like to attend that if it gets going.

July 14, 2012

September meeting topic?

by Karl Lind

Howdy all, I would like to give a talk on the Raspberry Pi project and I have two of them to demonstrate various OS's (I have worked with the Debian and Fedora implementations and look forward to the others as they come out.). I have four SD cards, so that's the number of OS's I can bring with me. Have a great summer! Karl

July 14, 2012

WLUG july/aug

by Doug Mildram

doug> Chuck is on vacation...hope the website didn't mislead; it said "TBD" for upcoming meetings. ** So I think we're "on break" for July, and still hoping for a new August BBQ volunteer host. Or, I might. From: John Platt <jplatt39(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Wlug] July meeting? Hi! I was on campus this evening but didn't see Chuck or any signs. Did I miss something?

July 12, 2012

July meeting?

by John Platt

Hi! I was on campus this evening but didn't see Chuck or any signs. Did I miss something?

July 12, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by E Johnson

Thanks Chuck. I had seen the Lenovo fixes, but that didn't seem to fit this situation. At least now, in these explanations, I can see why it's often suggested to remap the CapsLock as an extra CTRL key. Others suggest physically rewiring the thing; switching the wires. That isn't possible in this one. This is a $30 plastic keyboard that should have cost 9 bucks max. I'll rewire the nice but sick one, whenever the soldering iron is dropped off here. Thanks again everyone. Liz On 4 July 2012 02:49, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > See here for the gory details. As you can see, there is pretty much > no easy way to turn Fn into a generic key, especially not a Ctrl key. > There may be a hard way that involves loading a custom ACPI DSDT and > creating custom actions for every combination of Fn and every other > key--if there are even enough non-overlapping codes to do it. Also > bare in mind that these are IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad specific docs: > > http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work > > http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_hotswap_Ultrabay_devices > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 10:29:27PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > > How did you create the custom action?? > > (need the commnds) > > Thanks > > Liz > > > > On 3 July 2012 22:22, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > > > > More specifically, it is handled by the ACPI BIOS in SMM (system > > > management mode). You might be able to hook it via acpid, but > > > probably not in a suitably complete way to emulate Ctrl for all uses. > > > I was able to create a custom action Fn+F9 on my laptop to power down > > > the optical/hard drive bay so I could eject it. > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 06:52:21PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > > > > Oh. Well, that explains why I can't get the keymap code, thank you. > > > > > > > > I guess that explains why it's a fix in the BIOS too, if the BIOS > will do > > > > it. > > > > > > > > But I need the keymap code. Need to do CTRL-C and CTRL-V a zillion > > > > times/day, but the distance between CTRL and C and V in this > keyboard is > > > > too short. If CTRL was an inch to the left, life would be normal & > > > > arthriitic effects would be reduced. > > > > > > > > Thank you very much, Mike. > > > > > > > > Liz > > > > > > > > On 3 July 2012 18:32, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:10:12 E Johnson wrote: > > > > > > I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN > key. > > > > > > Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least > not > > > using > > > > > > this method. > > > > > > > > > > many (most?) keyboards process FN in hardware. the OS doesn't get > a > > > > > chance to > > > > > see it. so if you do FN+down arrow to get page down, it's the > keyboard > > > > > itself > > > > > that is sending the "page down" key. the OS doesn't see "FN+down > > > arrow" > > > > > and > > > > > translate it to "page down" in software. > > > > > -mike > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 4, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by Chuck Anderson

See here for the gory details. As you can see, there is pretty much no easy way to turn Fn into a generic key, especially not a Ctrl key. There may be a hard way that involves loading a custom ACPI DSDT and creating custom actions for every combination of Fn and every other key--if there are even enough non-overlapping codes to do it. Also bare in mind that these are IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad specific docs: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_hotswap_Ultrabay_devices On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 10:29:27PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > How did you create the custom action?? > (need the commnds) > Thanks > Liz > > On 3 July 2012 22:22, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > > More specifically, it is handled by the ACPI BIOS in SMM (system > > management mode). You might be able to hook it via acpid, but > > probably not in a suitably complete way to emulate Ctrl for all uses. > > I was able to create a custom action Fn+F9 on my laptop to power down > > the optical/hard drive bay so I could eject it. > > > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 06:52:21PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > > > Oh. Well, that explains why I can't get the keymap code, thank you. > > > > > > I guess that explains why it's a fix in the BIOS too, if the BIOS will do > > > it. > > > > > > But I need the keymap code. Need to do CTRL-C and CTRL-V a zillion > > > times/day, but the distance between CTRL and C and V in this keyboard is > > > too short. If CTRL was an inch to the left, life would be normal & > > > arthriitic effects would be reduced. > > > > > > Thank you very much, Mike. > > > > > > Liz > > > > > > On 3 July 2012 18:32, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > > > > > > > On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:10:12 E Johnson wrote: > > > > > I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN key. > > > > > Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least not > > using > > > > > this method. > > > > > > > > many (most?) keyboards process FN in hardware. the OS doesn't get a > > > > chance to > > > > see it. so if you do FN+down arrow to get page down, it's the keyboard > > > > itself > > > > that is sending the "page down" key. the OS doesn't see "FN+down > > arrow" > > > > and > > > > translate it to "page down" in software. > > > > -mike

July 4, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by E Johnson

How did you create the custom action?? (need the commnds) Thanks Liz On 3 July 2012 22:22, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > More specifically, it is handled by the ACPI BIOS in SMM (system > management mode). You might be able to hook it via acpid, but > probably not in a suitably complete way to emulate Ctrl for all uses. > I was able to create a custom action Fn+F9 on my laptop to power down > the optical/hard drive bay so I could eject it. > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 06:52:21PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > > Oh. Well, that explains why I can't get the keymap code, thank you. > > > > I guess that explains why it's a fix in the BIOS too, if the BIOS will do > > it. > > > > But I need the keymap code. Need to do CTRL-C and CTRL-V a zillion > > times/day, but the distance between CTRL and C and V in this keyboard is > > too short. If CTRL was an inch to the left, life would be normal & > > arthriitic effects would be reduced. > > > > Thank you very much, Mike. > > > > Liz > > > > On 3 July 2012 18:32, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:10:12 E Johnson wrote: > > > > I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN key. > > > > Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least not > using > > > > this method. > > > > > > many (most?) keyboards process FN in hardware. the OS doesn't get a > > > chance to > > > see it. so if you do FN+down arrow to get page down, it's the keyboard > > > itself > > > that is sending the "page down" key. the OS doesn't see "FN+down > arrow" > > > and > > > translate it to "page down" in software. > > > -mike > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- > - Chuck (0 Days until IPv4 depletion: http://ipv4depletion.com/) > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 4, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by Chuck Anderson

More specifically, it is handled by the ACPI BIOS in SMM (system management mode). You might be able to hook it via acpid, but probably not in a suitably complete way to emulate Ctrl for all uses. I was able to create a custom action Fn+F9 on my laptop to power down the optical/hard drive bay so I could eject it. On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 06:52:21PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > Oh. Well, that explains why I can't get the keymap code, thank you. > > I guess that explains why it's a fix in the BIOS too, if the BIOS will do > it. > > But I need the keymap code. Need to do CTRL-C and CTRL-V a zillion > times/day, but the distance between CTRL and C and V in this keyboard is > too short. If CTRL was an inch to the left, life would be normal & > arthriitic effects would be reduced. > > Thank you very much, Mike. > > Liz > > On 3 July 2012 18:32, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > > > On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:10:12 E Johnson wrote: > > > I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN key. > > > Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least not using > > > this method. > > > > many (most?) keyboards process FN in hardware. the OS doesn't get a > > chance to > > see it. so if you do FN+down arrow to get page down, it's the keyboard > > itself > > that is sending the "page down" key. the OS doesn't see "FN+down arrow" > > and > > translate it to "page down" in software. > > -mike > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- - Chuck (0 Days until IPv4 depletion: http://ipv4depletion.com/)

July 4, 2012