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Possible intrusion?

by Bill Mills-Curran

I was looking at the output of "last" recently and found several entries like this on my home server: userxx pts/0 c-24-91-141-172. Sun Dec 2 14:57 - 15:09 (00:11) (userxx represents my username) I did a reverse lookup on 172.141.92.24: host 172.141.92.24 24.92.141.172.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer AC8D5C18.ipt.aol.com. Looks like something from AOL. I got a little freaked, so I changed my password and also blocked that IP in /etc/hosts.deny. I'm not an aol user, but my wife is... but the "last" output shows this as connecting with my username. Any ideas? Thanks, Bill

Dec. 16, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Using Facebook as a Website

by Steven Greenberg

I don't think it is a question of Facebook or a website. Maybe the title of my email gave that impression. We can use both. Use Facebook for what it is good for (if that is anything), and use the web site for what it is good for. Creating events and managing RSVP might be something to leave to Facebook. Although, if we used one of the CMS software systems, it could probably do that job. For instance, I use my personal Facebook site only to have links to my blog articles on my web site. I agree, that I want to own the data on my blog. All my photo albums are on my own website. On the Facebook create group page there is an option to set privacy to: Privacy: Open Anyone can see the group, who's in it, and what members post. Actually, I suppose that may already be the setting. The description does not imply that you do not need to at least login to Facebook to see the group. /Steve -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

Dec. 14, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Using Facebook as a Website

by Tim Keller

While its true I created the FB wlug group, I don't think we should use Facebook... I'd rather we own our data. Plus it would end up excluding too many people. A broader question we should ask is "what do we want the wlug website to be?" One thing that I think we should try to do is start recording talks and putting them up on YouTube and then link to them from the website. I'm all for the wiki, just that we'd want to think about access controls, etc. merely to keep the vandals off. I think this is easy, just force accounts. My .02 dollars. Tim. On Dec 13, 2012, at 3:08 PM, Brett Russ <bruss(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Clint Moyer <cdmoyer(a)charter.net> wrote: >> Facebook is about as far away from open source as one can get. > > Actually, while you're correct that FB's product is a walled garden, the company itself is a big user of and, more importantly, contributor to OSS. I'd not seen a list, but Google showed me http://developers.facebook.com/opensource/ > -BR > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Dec. 13, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Using Facebook as a Website

by Brett Russ

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Clint Moyer <cdmoyer(a)charter.net> wrote: > Facebook is about as far away from open source as one can get. > Actually, while you're correct that FB's product is a walled garden, the company itself is a big user of and, more importantly, contributor to OSS. I'd not seen a list, but Google showed me http://developers.facebook.com/opensource/ -BR

Dec. 13, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Using Facebook as a Website

by Clint Moyer

Facebook is about as far away from open source as one can get. On Dec 13, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: >> From: E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> >> >> Facebook required me to log in or sign up in order to access the >> page at the link provided. >> >> Using Facebook as the WLUG website would exclude me from having >> access to it. > > As I said at the Wed. meeting, Facebook must die. > > I don't think Facebook would exclude me, because I have > already excluded it. I do think the fact that nobody, except > Chuck, remembered the FB page that is already there, tells > you all you need to know about how useful it is. > > I am happy with the mailing list; I have never used > the web page, though I did look at it a couple of times > just to see that it was there, but if somebody else > wants to maintain other web pages, I have no objection. > > The web is made of pages I never look at. > > It's not a problem. > > -- Keith > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Dec. 13, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Using Facebook as a Website

by Brett Russ

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Steven Greenberg <steve(a)ssgreenberg.name>wrote: > If the owner of > https://www.facebook.com/groups/worcester.linux.users.group/ > > could open up access to this page so that you do not need > to log in to read it, then this would be a great step forward. > I think the issue is that WLUG's FB presence is not a page at all, but rather a group. If it was a page, then (I believe) it's public by default. -BR

Dec. 13, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Using Facebook as a Website

by Keith Wright

> From: E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> > > Facebook required me to log in or sign up in order to access the > page at the link provided. > > Using Facebook as the WLUG website would exclude me from having > access to it. As I said at the Wed. meeting, Facebook must die. I don't think Facebook would exclude me, because I have already excluded it. I do think the fact that nobody, except Chuck, remembered the FB page that is already there, tells you all you need to know about how useful it is. I am happy with the mailing list; I have never used the web page, though I did look at it a couple of times just to see that it was there, but if somebody else wants to maintain other web pages, I have no objection. The web is made of pages I never look at. It's not a problem. -- Keith

Dec. 13, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Using Facebook as a Website

by Steven Greenberg

https://www.facebook.com/SturbridgeForElizabethWarren does not require a login to Facebook. Facebook presents you with a login page, but you can just dismiss the login page to read the original. This is not true of https://www.facebook.com/groups/worcester.linux.users.group/ If the owner of https://www.facebook.com/groups/worcester.linux.users.group/ could open up access to this page so that you do not need to log in to read it, then this would be a great step forward. This facebook page ought to be mentioned on the web site. http://www.wlug.org/. That way, knowledge of the facebook page would not fade into memory in the archive of these emails. /Steve -- Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: www.ssgreenberg.name Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu

Dec. 13, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Using Facebook as a Website

by E Johnson

Facebook required me to log in or sign up in order to access the page at the link provided. Using Facebook as the WLUG website would exclude me from having access to it. Liz J On 13 December 2012 00:15, Steven Greenberg <steve(a)ssgreenberg.name> wrote: > In the meeting, I also mentioned using Facebook. This is just > about the easiest thing to set up. > > Here is an example Facebook Page that I have created. You > do not need to sign in to Facebook to read it. > > https://www.facebook.com/SturbridgeForElizabethWarren > > /Steve > -- > Steven Greenberg Email: steve(a)ssgreenberg.name > 251 Holland Rd. Phone: (774)241-0095 > Fiskdale, Massachusetts 01518-1231 Web: www.ssgreenberg.name > Other Email: s.greenberg(a)ieee.org ssg(a)alum.mit.edu > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 13, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Using Facebook as a Website

by Chuck Anderson

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:15:27AM -0500, Steven Greenberg wrote: > In the meeting, I also mentioned using Facebook. This is just > about the easiest thing to set up. [quote trimmed for brevity] WLUG already has a Facebook group created by Tim Keller: https://www.facebook.com/groups/worcester.linux.users.group/?fref=ts

Dec. 13, 2012