March 2011 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] Topic for April?

by Chuck Anderson

I can talk about SysVInit, Upstart, and Systemd. Do you want to talk about OpenRC? We could try to fit it into one meeting. On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:22:57AM -0400, Jason Couture wrote: > How about a discussion of init systems in general, pros and cons of each? > (I'm an OpenRC fanboy myself.) > On Mar 30, 2011 12:07 AM, "Gregory Avedissian" <avedis.g(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > Yes. > > > > > > On 03/29/2011 10:57 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > > >> Would people be interested in a talk on Systemd, the replacement for > >> SysVinit and Upstart?

March 30, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Topic for April?

by Jason Couture

How about a discussion of init systems in general, pros and cons of each? (I'm an OpenRC fanboy myself.) On Mar 30, 2011 12:07 AM, "Gregory Avedissian" <avedis.g(a)verizon.net> wrote: > Yes. > > > On 03/29/2011 10:57 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > >> Would people be interested in a talk on Systemd, the replacement for >> SysVinit and Upstart? >> _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 30, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Topic for April?

by Gregory Avedissian

Yes. On 03/29/2011 10:57 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Would people be interested in a talk on Systemd, the replacement for > SysVinit and Upstart? > _______________________________________________

March 30, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Topic for April?

by Chuck Anderson

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 03:10:01PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > Any ideas what people would like to do for a topic for April? > > We'd talked about doing a distribution bake off... Does that still have any > traction? Would people be interested in a talk on Systemd, the replacement for SysVinit and Upstart?

March 30, 2011

Topic for April?

by Tim Keller

Any ideas what people would like to do for a topic for April? We'd talked about doing a distribution bake off... Does that still have any traction? Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 29, 2011

Re: [Wlug] WLUG meeting idea - Distro comparison

by James Gray

You could try the 'Linux Distribution Chooser' at http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/ I imagine it is a bit out-of-date now, but I doubt that much has changed. I use Ubuntu on my desktop at home. Ubuntu is generally pretty up-to-date. It is a good beginner's Linux. However, it gives you full access to Debian's huge collection of software so it can keep advanced users happy too. Because Ubuntu is so popular most problems and obstacles already have solutions online. Which is good, because Ubuntu tends to be toward bleeding edge - with emphasis on the bleeding. However, if you wait a few months after a release to install the most troubling issues will be fixed. On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:59 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Debian Squeeze is very nice. Everything Works. > The spacefun wallpaper & splash screen is pretty goofy, but they're easily > replacable, & easily forgotten. > I custom-install Firefox on all my Debian installations. > Also note: I did not install KDE on my latest Squeeze, since I didn't want > KDE4. Have xfce & KDE-trinity as choices of graphical environments. > > HTH > Liz J > > > On 25 March 2011 13:24, joel d <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I am setting up a new laptop and trying to decide on which distro to go >> with... >> Probably the same list of finalists as everyone else in no particular >> order (Red Hat / CentOS / Fedora / Ubuntu / Gentoo / others). >> >> Has WLUG done a disto comparison night meeting? >> I think it might be interesting. >> Each person bring in a laptop with their favorite mainstream distro >> (possibly 3 or 4). >> Spend 20 to 30 minutes on each, showing the major differences >> (installs / apps handling / etc) and why they like it. >> >> Probably not a new idea. >> If it's been done of late then please disregard as I cannot make as >> many meetings as I once could. >> (This is due to my personal schedule not due to lack of interest.) >> >> Joel >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

March 25, 2011

Re: [Wlug] WLUG meeting idea - Distro comparison

by E Johnson

Debian Squeeze is very nice. Everything Works. The spacefun wallpaper & splash screen is pretty goofy, but they're easily replacable, & easily forgotten. I custom-install Firefox on all my Debian installations. Also note: I did not install KDE on my latest Squeeze, since I didn't want KDE4. Have xfce & KDE-trinity as choices of graphical environments. HTH Liz J On 25 March 2011 13:24, joel d <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote: I am setting up a new laptop and trying to decide on which distro to go > with... > Probably the same list of finalists as everyone else in no particular > order (Red Hat / CentOS / Fedora / Ubuntu / Gentoo / others). > > Has WLUG done a disto comparison night meeting? > I think it might be interesting. > Each person bring in a laptop with their favorite mainstream distro > (possibly 3 or 4). > Spend 20 to 30 minutes on each, showing the major differences > (installs / apps handling / etc) and why they like it. > > Probably not a new idea. > If it's been done of late then please disregard as I cannot make as > many meetings as I once could. > (This is due to my personal schedule not due to lack of interest.) > > Joel > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 25, 2011

Re: [Wlug] WLUG meeting idea - Distro comparison

by Justin St. Marie

Depends on your hardware and what packages you want. If your hardware is supported (or at least works with it) You can't beat RHEL in terms of stability. However, even with external repos, you might not have all the packages you want, or the versions of them you want. CentOS still doesn't have 6 out (based on F12/13), so the hardware support is still about on par. 5.x could be problematic. However if you want to give it a shot, try Scientific Linux. It's at version 6, and claims to be 100% binary compatible to RHEL. Fedora is going to have more updated packages and drivers, at the cost of stability. However, you will probably have better luck getting it on a laptop. Can't speak for Ubuntu or Gentoo. On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:24 PM, joel d <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am setting up a new laptop and trying to decide on which distro to go > with... > Probably the same list of finalists as everyone else in no particular > order (Red Hat / CentOS / Fedora / Ubuntu / Gentoo / others). > > Has WLUG done a disto comparison night meeting? > I think it might be interesting. > Each person bring in a laptop with their favorite mainstream distro > (possibly 3 or 4). > Spend 20 to 30 minutes on each, showing the major differences > (installs / apps handling / etc) and why they like it. > > Probably not a new idea. > If it's been done of late then please disregard as I cannot make as > many meetings as I once could. > (This is due to my personal schedule not due to lack of interest.) > > Joel > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 25, 2011

WLUG meeting idea - Distro comparison

by joel d

I am setting up a new laptop and trying to decide on which distro to go with... Probably the same list of finalists as everyone else in no particular order (Red Hat / CentOS / Fedora / Ubuntu / Gentoo / others). Has WLUG done a disto comparison night meeting? I think it might be interesting. Each person bring in a laptop with their favorite mainstream distro (possibly 3 or 4). Spend 20 to 30 minutes on each, showing the major differences (installs / apps handling / etc) and why they like it. Probably not a new idea. If it's been done of late then please disregard as I cannot make as many meetings as I once could. (This is due to my personal schedule not due to lack of interest.) Joel

March 25, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Gentoo

by joel d

Got it. "Ward, aren't you being a little hard on the beaver?" I don't believe I shared my personal Gentoo opinion. Instead I mused about a hilarious website and Gentoo's popularity growing and fading like a wave... Approx. 4 years ago I tried Gentoo once for a few days and discovered it wasn't for me. "Hi... My name is Joel and I'm a "Distro-XYZ" user." Sounds like a support group intro to me. No axe to grind, it is just my personal preference. I prefer not to drink instant coffee also, so I merely go elsewhere for my warm, slightly burnt, caffeinated goods. As always your mileage can and will vary... Actually I was mostly amused with the odd autos makes me want to do the following to 15+ year old Honda Civic showing lots of rust: put a rear wing with a half sheet of plywood held on with drywall screws Spray the home-made wing neon yellow spray can to not match the car (don't mask the car first) remove the exhaust with a sawzall at the headers (loud with real flames) leave a pair of custom exhaust pipe tips out the rear (leaving the labling of Folgers coffee). hood scoop made with a sawzall duct tape and a Cheerios box replace all the wheels with 4 "donut" spares. drive it up and down the street with a really bad car stereo blasting "Tom's Diner". Anyone have a spent, near end-of-life donor car in their driveway? (on second thought, nevermind) Joel From: Gary Hanley <gary(a)hanley.net> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Gentoo To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Message-ID: <4D8C0929.9090808(a)hanley.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Where is Barbara Billingsley when you need her? :-) On 03/24/2011 04:27 PM, joel d wrote: > Wow. > I have never been to Gentoo is Rice before. > That guy has some issues but I missed why he was so upset ;-) > Was very entertained by the highly visually modified but still stock > underpowered autos. > Pics are a "People of Walmart" for the auto world. > > That Gentoo's install numbers are fading: > everyone that wants it is upgrading as Jamie mentioned > dying due to Ubuntu adoption/popularity from the article > developers numbers dwindling from the article > no longer the cool distro for techies or average users (we want to > be cool too) > some other reasons... > or is it the end of it's technology "wave" > > IMHO, most technology comes and goes in 1 to 8 year waves. > > A technology wave example is the Slackware disto. > Who else remembers running Slackware (back when it was rather cool)? > Not sure I even know if they still release Slack anymore (I did just > go there and yup they do). > > Three related waves which took longer admidedly were > centralized processing and dumb terminals of the simpler good old days > modern servers and intelligent desktops with processing power > back to virtual machines (and thin clients which are really akin to > fancy terminals) > > Joel

March 25, 2011