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Re: [Wlug] Two more questions....

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Ken" == Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> writes: Ken> My goal is to get Fedora 12-Beta up and running on my ULTRA1 Sparc. When I Ken> tried installing it the system did not like my DISC 1. Ken> 1. I would like to check the checksums on the six CD's that I made from Ken> your fedora 12-Beta source. I read that the only way is to shutdown, do Ken> "STOP a" and type "Linux mediacheck". My system does not recognize the Ken> "Linux mediacheck" command. Is there no way to do this operation from Ken> within a running Aurora system? I think you'll first need to boot into SILO, then do the 'linux mediacheck' command. Try googling for 'silo mediacheck' and see what it gets you. Ken> 2. I have checked. I really have two identical Aurora systems Ken> on my two hard drives. The older one on the 17Gig drive from the Ken> ULTRA1 that died does not boot correctly. The newer version on Ken> the 3.4 Gig disk is from last week's successful installation of Ken> that same antique five CD .iso set. That new installation had to Ken> be limited because of a problem with a language file supporting Ken> emacs. Ken> I would like to be running a modern Aurora, but still keep my Ken> archive files. Any suggestions for a plan of action would be Ken> greatly appreciated. Personally, the cost/performance/value of Sparc for me has completely gone out the window. And this is from a guy who had and used some ancient Sparc boxes (god, now I can't even remember the model), ah, I see. It was probably a SparcClassic, one of the little square suckers. Slow, but you could stack em up and run linux on them pretty well. Too limited in terms of memory though... These days, as you've discovered, the cost of keeping them running has just gotten too high. You'll be better off with an x86 machine now days with IDE or SATA drives. Good luck! John

May 26, 2010

Re: [Wlug] One more question.

by Eric Martin

usually its .profile or .csh_profile or something to that effect. Like james said, google is your friend. Also, chances are you're using bash so its .bashrc eric On May 25, 2010 10:04 PM, "James Gray" <jamespgray(a)gmail.com> wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Which configuration process... For bash you can add the commands to set these variables for bash in .bashrc if you use a different shell you'll need to edit a different file. Google should be able to help you with this. You can set variables system wide (all users) by editing /etc/profile (or at least that is where ubuntu puts it). Thanks! _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlu...

May 26, 2010

Re: [Wlug] One more question.

by James Gray

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Which configuration process creates the environmental variables? For bash you can add the commands to set these variables for bash in .bashrc if you use a different shell you'll need to edit a different file. Google should be able to help you with this. You can set variables system wide (all users) by editing /etc/profile (or at least that is where ubuntu puts it). Thanks!

May 26, 2010

One more question.

by Ken Jones

Which configuration process creates the environmental variables? I want to permanently add to my PATH. Presently I do it every time I logon. Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15050) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 26, 2010

Two more questions....

by Ken Jones

My goal is to get Fedora 12-Beta up and running on my ULTRA1 Sparc. When I tried installing it the system did not like my DISC 1. 1. I would like to check the checksums on the six CD's that I made from your fedora 12-Beta source. I read that the only way is to shutdown, do "STOP a" and type "Linux mediacheck". My system does not recognize the "Linux mediacheck" command. Is there no way to do this operation from within a running Aurora system? 2. I have checked. I really have two identical Aurora systems on my two hard drives. The older one on the 17Gig drive from the ULTRA1 that died does not boot correctly. The newer version on the 3.4 Gig disk is from last week's successful installation of that same antique five CD .iso set. That new installation had to be limited because of a problem with a language file supporting emacs. I would like to be running a modern Aurora, but still keep my archive files. Any suggestions for a plan of action would be greatly appreciated. Ken Jones Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15050) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 26, 2010

Eric, this is the one.

by Ken Jones

Yes, Eric, this is the ULTRA 1 Creator you gave me. It had been my backup machine. Now it is center stage. Seems to be doing fine. My problems have been with installing a modern version of Aurora. Previously it had been running Gentoo without X. Thanks. Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15050) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 25, 2010

Re: [Wlug] I was all mixed up.

by Eric Martin

Hey Ken, is that the Ultra I gave you? I think those are SCA adapters (hotswap style) On 05/24/10 12:19, Ken Jones wrote: > My ULTRA1 hard drives do not have a separate four pin power connector. > That's the CD drive. > > Here's what one of my hard drives says: > > Seagate Barracuda > Model ST32171WC > > It has a connector with about 76 pins. They are too small for me to count > accurately. > > ---------------------------------------- > > I have decided to stick with my present installation of a 2004 Aurora > package on my 3.2 Gig disk. I can mount my old Linux disk so I can get at > the files I wish to preserve. I can even back them up. I think I can RPM > some newer versions from the WEB. I have a brand new Fedora 12 Beta > packages disk that refused to load. Checksum?? Gotta get Md5sum going... > > Thank you for all your support and tell me when you get a PDP10 or 11 > working. Inputting from punched paper telegraph tape will bring back > memories. > > Ken > > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15050) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 24, 2010

Re: [Wlug] I was all mixed up.

by Richard Klein

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > My ULTRA1 hard drives do not have a separate four pin power connector. > That's the CD drive. > > Here's what one of my hard drives says: > > Seagate Barracuda > Model ST32171WC > > It has a connector with about 76 pins. They are too small for me to count > accurately. I think 80 pins is the closest SCSI standard, if I recall correctly. I think I have a drive that would work, if I can just remember to look for it when I get home... -- Rich

May 24, 2010

I was all mixed up.

by Ken Jones

My ULTRA1 hard drives do not have a separate four pin power connector. That's the CD drive. Here's what one of my hard drives says: Seagate Barracuda Model ST32171WC It has a connector with about 76 pins. They are too small for me to count accurately. ---------------------------------------- I have decided to stick with my present installation of a 2004 Aurora package on my 3.2 Gig disk. I can mount my old Linux disk so I can get at the files I wish to preserve. I can even back them up. I think I can RPM some newer versions from the WEB. I have a brand new Fedora 12 Beta packages disk that refused to load. Checksum?? Gotta get Md5sum going... Thank you for all your support and tell me when you get a PDP10 or 11 working. Inputting from punched paper telegraph tape will bring back memories. Ken ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15050) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

May 24, 2010

Re: [Wlug] mine has a separate power cord

by John Stoffel

Ken> Thanks, Chuck, for noting the two variations. Yeah, thanks. I know that a bunch of suns use the SCA connector. I think the Ultra 2 uses it for the two hot swap bays on the side. Ken> My ULTRA 1 has an oval connector with 68 (I did not count them) Ken> pins and a separate four wire power cord. Actually, now that I'm more aware (though heading to sleep soon!) my 36Gb disk has the 4 pin Molex for power, and the 68 pin SCSI3 connector. It's an LVD/SE, so it *might* work on your Sun Ultra 1. Oh yeah, the connector isn't oval like I quickly thought, it's more like this: -------------------------------- \ / \ / ---------------------------- So you should double check. I'd be happy to pass on the drive, not knowing whether it works or not though. I'm in Boylston. Though not around until later Sunday afternoon. Ken> ======= Ken> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. Ken> (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15050) Ken> http://www.pctools.com/ Ken> ======= Ken> _______________________________________________ Ken> Wlug mailing list Ken> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Ken> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 23, 2010