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Re: [Wlug] Looking for DDR400 (PC3200) RAM

by J. R. Mauro

On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:14, "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: >>>>>> "Frank" == Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> writes: > > Frank> In general, I find that the best place to shop for memory is > Frank> http://www.crucial.com Ugh, crucial is a *total* ripoff. It's good for finding out what type your machine needs and that's it. Newegg, eBay, woot, tigerdirect, anything are better on price > > I agree, or newegg.com, but for old memory like this... a salvage > place seems to be a better place, esp since DDR2/DDR3 is so cheap in > relation. > > Thanks for the followup, I appreciate it. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 29, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Looking for DDR400 (PC3200) RAM

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Frank" == Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> writes: Frank> In general, I find that the best place to shop for memory is Frank> http://www.crucial.com I agree, or newegg.com, but for old memory like this... a salvage place seems to be a better place, esp since DDR2/DDR3 is so cheap in relation. Thanks for the followup, I appreciate it. John

Aug. 29, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Looking for DDR400 (PC3200) RAM

by Frank Sweetser

On 8/28/2009 6:48 PM, John Stoffel wrote: > > Guys, > > I'm trying to ressurect an old MSI K8T NEO mother board with an > Athlon64 3000 CPU. Unfortunately, I don't have any 184 Pin > PC3200/DDR400, PC2700/DDR333, PC2100/ DDR266 or PC1600/DDR200 > unbuffered DIMM boards. In general, I find that the best place to shop for memory is http://www.crucial.com -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

Aug. 28, 2009

Looking for DDR400 (PC3200) RAM

by John Stoffel

Guys, I'm trying to ressurect an old MSI K8T NEO mother board with an Athlon64 3000 CPU. Unfortunately, I don't have any 184 Pin PC3200/DDR400, PC2700/DDR333, PC2100/ DDR266 or PC1600/DDR200 unbuffered DIMM boards. Probably 512Mb each (I've got three slots), though bigger is always better, right? I'd be willing to travel in the worcester area tomorrow to do a pickup, or hit a store with some if anyone has any suggestions other than the guys in Northboro on Rt 20. Thanks, John

Aug. 28, 2009

Re: [Wlug] computer w/ ubuntu pre-installed.

by J. R. Mauro

On Aug 28, 2009, at 13:25, "Brian A. Dewhirst" <b.dewhirst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:32, J.R. Mauro<jrm8005(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Adam Keck<ghostis(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi Jason, >>> I think you will run into two issues with being a straight Linux >>> OEM. The >>> computer OEM business generally has a relatively low barrier to >>> entry and >>> it's largely commoditized, thanks to Dell, HP, etc. To make it >>> work, I >>> think you will need to specialize in some way such that it would be >>> cost/time prohibitive for new businesses to enter your target >>> market. >>> Perhaps you could create a blackbox application of your Linux >>> hardware or >>> learn particular industry that has specific needs (and money ;-), >>> like >>> Legal, Green Energy, or Medical Records. Right now you are >>> competing with >> >> This. Not many people will be convinced to buy a linux machine. >> ("huh? >> What's line-oox?") >> >> However, if you start selling inexpensive computers with packages of >> software preinstalled for certain targets, e.g. medical (the amount >> of >> Linux software for medicine is amazing. I've seen a lot of MRI >> machines that have Linux terminals), POS, business management, >> graphics, desktop publishing, etc., then people might bite. >> >> Of course I'd also recommend ample documentation for your "suite" of >> apps, even if it's just a manifest describing what GnuCash, etc. is >> for, since people will not be able to figure out the names. Support >> is >> also usually a must with Linux if you think non-savvy folks will be >> customers. >> >>> Dell nationally and PC Plus et al locally :-/. In both cases, your >>> established competitors can probably cut their prices to cost for >>> awhile to >>> compete. I think it will be hard to get started. >>> MHO, >>> -Adam > > I suspect some of this will change soon. If he's planning on being a > "Google Chrome PC distributor" and just getting started w/ vanilla > Ubuntu, I think he may have something going. He's certainly describing > the right sort of machine for a Chrome OS machine, near as I can tell. I'd reserve judgment on anything changing anytime soon. > > -- Brian > > disclaimer: most of you know more about *nix and computer hardware > than I > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 28, 2009

Re: [Wlug] computer w/ ubuntu pre-installed.

by Brian A. Dewhirst

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:32, J.R. Mauro<jrm8005(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Adam Keck<ghostis(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Jason, >> I think you will run into two issues with being a straight Linux OEM. The >> computer OEM business generally has a relatively low barrier to entry and >> it's largely commoditized, thanks to Dell, HP, etc. To make it work, I >> think you will need to specialize in some way such that it would be >> cost/time prohibitive for new businesses to enter your target market. >> Perhaps you could create a blackbox application of your Linux hardware or >> learn particular industry that has specific needs (and money ;-), like >> Legal, Green Energy, or Medical Records. Right now you are competing with > > This. Not many people will be convinced to buy a linux machine. ("huh? > What's line-oox?") > > However, if you start selling inexpensive computers with packages of > software preinstalled for certain targets, e.g. medical (the amount of > Linux software for medicine is amazing. I've seen a lot of MRI > machines that have Linux terminals), POS, business management, > graphics, desktop publishing, etc., then people might bite. > > Of course I'd also recommend ample documentation for your "suite" of > apps, even if it's just a manifest describing what GnuCash, etc. is > for, since people will not be able to figure out the names. Support is > also usually a must with Linux if you think non-savvy folks will be > customers. > >> Dell nationally and PC Plus et al locally :-/. In both cases, your >> established competitors can probably cut their prices to cost for awhile to >> compete. I think it will be hard to get started. >> MHO, >> -Adam I suspect some of this will change soon. If he's planning on being a "Google Chrome PC distributor" and just getting started w/ vanilla Ubuntu, I think he may have something going. He's certainly describing the right sort of machine for a Chrome OS machine, near as I can tell. -- Brian disclaimer: most of you know more about *nix and computer hardware than I

Aug. 28, 2009

Re: [Wlug] computer w/ ubuntu pre-installed.

by J.R. Mauro

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Adam Keck<ghostis(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Jason, > I think you will run into two issues with being a straight Linux OEM. The > computer OEM business generally has a relatively low barrier to entry and > it's largely commoditized, thanks to Dell, HP, etc. To make it work, I > think you will need to specialize in some way such that it would be > cost/time prohibitive for new businesses to enter your target market. > Perhaps you could create a blackbox application of your Linux hardware or > learn particular industry that has specific needs (and money ;-), like > Legal, Green Energy, or Medical Records. Right now you are competing with This. Not many people will be convinced to buy a linux machine. ("huh? What's line-oox?") However, if you start selling inexpensive computers with packages of software preinstalled for certain targets, e.g. medical (the amount of Linux software for medicine is amazing. I've seen a lot of MRI machines that have Linux terminals), POS, business management, graphics, desktop publishing, etc., then people might bite. Of course I'd also recommend ample documentation for your "suite" of apps, even if it's just a manifest describing what GnuCash, etc. is for, since people will not be able to figure out the names. Support is also usually a must with Linux if you think non-savvy folks will be customers. > Dell nationally and PC Plus et al locally :-/. In both cases, your > established competitors can probably cut their prices to cost for awhile to > compete. I think it will be hard to get started. > MHO, > -Adam > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> yeah, this is supposed to be a budget box, if i were to build one of >> those i could probably beat their price. but that is a pretty sweet >> deal. >> >> just trying to get my businesses feet off the ground. :) >> >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Jim Dibb<jimdibb(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > For probably about $100 more than what you're asking you could add a 17" >> > LCD, speakers, keyboard, mouse to this and install linux yourself and >> > have >> > 4 times the system. >> > >> > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=… >> > >> > Course it's not pre-assembled. >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I recently started a business and i was wondering if anyone would be >> >> interested in purchasing some computers for 339.99 + tax each >> >> >> >> they each come with a 17" LCD, Wireless keyboard and mouse, speakers, >> >> dvd burner, 1gb of ddr2, a 320gb hdd, AMD Sempron LE-1100 and ubuntu >> >> linux pre-installed. >> >> >> >> Add 1gb of ddr2 for $10.00 making the total 349.99 >> >> >> >> (I really need to move these boxes. Im attempting to become a linux >> >> oem) >> >> >> >> thanks in advance, and sorry for the spam :P >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wlug mailing list >> >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wlug mailing list >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Aug. 28, 2009

Re: [Wlug] computer w/ ubuntu pre-installed.

by Adam Keck

Hi Jason, I think you will run into two issues with being a straight Linux OEM. The computer OEM business generally has a relatively low barrier to entry and it's largely commoditized, thanks to Dell, HP, etc. To make it work, I think you will need to specialize in some way such that it would be cost/time prohibitive for new businesses to enter your target market. Perhaps you could create a blackbox application of your Linux hardware or learn particular industry that has specific needs (and money ;-), like Legal, Green Energy, or Medical Records. Right now you are competing with Dell nationally and PC Plus et al locally :-/. In both cases, your established competitors can probably cut their prices to cost for awhile to compete. I think it will be hard to get started. MHO, -Adam On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com>wrote: > yeah, this is supposed to be a budget box, if i were to build one of > those i could probably beat their price. but that is a pretty sweet > deal. > > just trying to get my businesses feet off the ground. :) > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Jim Dibb<jimdibb(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > For probably about $100 more than what you're asking you could add a 17" > > LCD, speakers, keyboard, mouse to this and install linux yourself and > have > > 4 times the system. > > > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=… > > > > Course it's not pre-assembled. > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> I recently started a business and i was wondering if anyone would be > >> interested in purchasing some computers for 339.99 + tax each > >> > >> they each come with a 17" LCD, Wireless keyboard and mouse, speakers, > >> dvd burner, 1gb of ddr2, a 320gb hdd, AMD Sempron LE-1100 and ubuntu > >> linux pre-installed. > >> > >> Add 1gb of ddr2 for $10.00 making the total 349.99 > >> > >> (I really need to move these boxes. Im attempting to become a linux oem) > >> > >> thanks in advance, and sorry for the spam :P > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wlug mailing list > >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 28, 2009

Remote access with DansGuardian / FireHOL / TinyProxy

by Andrew C Wilkin

Is there anyone local who knows about DansGuardian? I'm having trouble logging into my work and I'm 95% positive it's because of DG. It's probably some configuration thing I don't know about. Any help?

Aug. 28, 2009

Re: [Wlug] looking for PHP 5.2.x help

by John Stoffel

John> I'm looking for some help with PHP5.2.x hacking on a web site to John> cleanup how the user submitted search form is handled. Never mind, I think I've found it with some more googling and other reading and reading and reading of examples.

Aug. 28, 2009