April 2009 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu == FAIL WHALE (was: Release party Ubuntu 9.04)

by Clint Moyer

I've had very few problems. I wouldn't just google for an answer though. The official Ubuntu forums are quite helpful and accurate. A random post revealed by a generic search may not be as fruitful. Besides, if someone has a problem copying a CD, I'd first suspect PEBCAK... ---- Nick Nassar <nassar(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: ============= Does anyone else consistently have bad experiences with Ubuntu? I've unintentionally made a handful of people really hate Linux by suggesting they try Ubuntu. The smooth install makes you think it's working well. You probably don't notice the problems for a while and you think "WOW non-geeks could actually use this." Then you try to burn an audio CD or use bluetooth or whatever and it doesn't work. You search on Google for a fix and you think "WOW The community support is awesome." Then you do what the community suggests and it not only doesn't fix it but it makes things worse. So, you reinstall. The six month release cycle just doesn't leave enough time to work out all of the quirks and update all of the community docs before the next version comes out. When people just want to copy an audio CD or perform some other basic task and it doesn't work, they (rightfully) get pissed. *sigh* James Gray <jamespgray(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, there will be a release party for the newest version of > Ubuntu on the 23rd in Boston. > > There will be plenty of food and fellow Ubuntu enthusiasts. There > will probably be desktop CDs as well. > > Date: Thursday April 23rd 2009 > Time: 7PM to 10PM > Where: Globe Bar & Grill, Boston > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 14, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu == FAIL WHALE (was: Release party Ubuntu 9.04)

by Sebastian Courtney

Sorry to disagree with you Nick, but aside from some quirks in alpha releases, I've never had any major problems that were not easily fixable in Ubuntu. :/ Bluetooth has always seamlessly worked for me, as well as burning CDs. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Nick Nassar <nassar(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > Does anyone else consistently have bad experiences with Ubuntu? > > I've unintentionally made a handful of people really hate Linux by > suggesting they try Ubuntu. > > The smooth install makes you think it's working well. You probably > don't notice the problems for a while and you think "WOW non-geeks could > actually use this." Then you try to burn an audio CD or use bluetooth or > whatever and it doesn't work. You search on Google for a fix and you > think "WOW The community support is awesome." Then you do what the > community suggests and it not only doesn't fix it but it makes things > worse. So, you reinstall. The six month release cycle just doesn't > leave enough time to work out all of the quirks and update all of the > community docs before the next version comes out. > > When people just want to copy an audio CD or perform some other basic > task and it doesn't work, they (rightfully) get pissed. > > *sigh* > > > James Gray <jamespgray(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi All, there will be a release party for the newest version of > > Ubuntu on the 23rd in Boston. > > > > There will be plenty of food and fellow Ubuntu enthusiasts. There > > will probably be desktop CDs as well. > > > > Date: Thursday April 23rd 2009 > > Time: 7PM to 10PM > > Where: Globe Bar & Grill, Boston > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 14, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu == FAIL WHALE (was: Release party Ubuntu 9.04)

by Nick Nassar

Does anyone else consistently have bad experiences with Ubuntu? I've unintentionally made a handful of people really hate Linux by suggesting they try Ubuntu. The smooth install makes you think it's working well. You probably don't notice the problems for a while and you think "WOW non-geeks could actually use this." Then you try to burn an audio CD or use bluetooth or whatever and it doesn't work. You search on Google for a fix and you think "WOW The community support is awesome." Then you do what the community suggests and it not only doesn't fix it but it makes things worse. So, you reinstall. The six month release cycle just doesn't leave enough time to work out all of the quirks and update all of the community docs before the next version comes out. When people just want to copy an audio CD or perform some other basic task and it doesn't work, they (rightfully) get pissed. *sigh* James Gray <jamespgray(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, there will be a release party for the newest version of > Ubuntu on the 23rd in Boston. > > There will be plenty of food and fellow Ubuntu enthusiasts. There > will probably be desktop CDs as well. > > Date: Thursday April 23rd 2009 > Time: 7PM to 10PM > Where: Globe Bar & Grill, Boston > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 14, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Release party Ubuntu 9.04

by Mike Leo

a little more info https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MassachusettsTeam/Events/ReleaseParties/9.04-Jaunty… ________________________________ From: James Gray <jamespgray(a)gmail.com> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:57:47 PM Subject: [Wlug] Release party Ubuntu 9.04 Hi All, there will be a release party for the newest version of Ubuntu on the 23rd in Boston. There will be plenty of food and fellow Ubuntu enthusiasts. There will probably be desktop CDs as well. Date: Thursday April 23rd 2009 Time: 7PM to 10PM Where: Globe Bar & Grill, Boston _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 14, 2009

Follow Up: Release party Ubuntu 9.04

by James Gray

Oops, forgot the link --- For more information visit: http://www.ubuntu-massachusetts.com/events/2/ On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:57 PM, James Gray <jamespgray(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, there will be a release party for the newest version of > Ubuntu on the 23rd in Boston. > > There will be plenty of food and fellow Ubuntu enthusiasts. There > will probably be desktop CDs as well. > > Date: Thursday April 23rd 2009 > Time: 7PM to 10PM > Where: Globe Bar & Grill, Boston >

April 14, 2009

Release party Ubuntu 9.04

by James Gray

Hi All, there will be a release party for the newest version of Ubuntu on the 23rd in Boston. There will be plenty of food and fellow Ubuntu enthusiasts. There will probably be desktop CDs as well. Date: Thursday April 23rd 2009 Time: 7PM to 10PM Where: Globe Bar & Grill, Boston

April 14, 2009

Re: [Wlug] PGP Key Signing at next WLUG Meeting

by Theo Van Dinter

It's really up to the person doing the signing. :) In general, you want to have as many strong forms of ID as possible. passport > driver's license > student id, etc. Multiple IDs are good, I don't think I've had need to go beyond 3 before. Some useful links: http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/gnupg/signingparty/ http://pgp-tools.alioth.debian.org/ On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 5:46 PM, William Smith <smithadmin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Andy, > > That sounds like something I'd like to do again-- it's been a while > since I made a Key Signing party! :D > > What are acceptable forms of ID for most? (I don't have a passport...) > > ...Bill > > On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> Our next WLUG meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, April 22nd, and we >> will be having a PGP Key Signing party, which will be orchestrated by >> Chuck Anderson and Eric Martin. I'll update the website shortly. >> >> Also, at the June meeting, we will have a guest speaker talk to us about >> the Open Street Map effort. >> >> That's all for now...see ya later, >> >> Andy >> >> - -- >> Andy Stewart, Founder >> Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) >> Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) >> Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >> >> iD8DBQFJ4MxIHl0iXDssISsRAm3TAJoD4jpyPt2LYwJlspHk+YKTDHBCNACfTB/+ >> JLkBAfr3Qh0aPXpRhnohVfE= >> =jhoc >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > > -- > Bill Smith > Fall River, MA > Charter Member of LOPSA > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 11, 2009

Re: [Wlug] PGP Key Signing at next WLUG Meeting

by William Smith

Andy, That sounds like something I'd like to do again-- it's been a while since I made a Key Signing party! :D What are acceptable forms of ID for most? (I don't have a passport...) ...Bill On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Hi all, > > Our next WLUG meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, April 22nd, and we > will be having a PGP Key Signing party, which will be orchestrated by > Chuck Anderson and Eric Martin. I'll update the website shortly. > > Also, at the June meeting, we will have a guest speaker talk to us about > the Open Street Map effort. > > That's all for now...see ya later, > > Andy > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) > Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) > Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFJ4MxIHl0iXDssISsRAm3TAJoD4jpyPt2LYwJlspHk+YKTDHBCNACfTB/+ > JLkBAfr3Qh0aPXpRhnohVfE= > =jhoc > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Bill Smith Fall River, MA Charter Member of LOPSA

April 11, 2009

PGP Key Signing at next WLUG Meeting

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Our next WLUG meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, April 22nd, and we will be having a PGP Key Signing party, which will be orchestrated by Chuck Anderson and Eric Martin. I'll update the website shortly. Also, at the June meeting, we will have a guest speaker talk to us about the Open Street Map effort. That's all for now...see ya later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJ4MxIHl0iXDssISsRAm3TAJoD4jpyPt2LYwJlspHk+YKTDHBCNACfTB/+ JLkBAfr3Qh0aPXpRhnohVfE= =jhoc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 11, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Linux from Scratch - anyone use this?

by Chuck Anderson

Here's another take on building your own distro using packages from Fedora and Fedora-compatible repositories: http://www.pcplus.co.uk/node/3020

April 11, 2009