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Re: [Wlug] Problem Sparc ULTRA 1 not seeing SBus Fast Ethernet

by William Smith

On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Eric Martin <freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What does lsmod show? Also, are you rolling your own kernels or using > stock disro ones? I'm not familiar w/aurora Aurora is a Linux distro for SPARC-based systems. It is based on the Fedora SRPMs. The second "stable" build of Aurora (2.0) is based on Fedora Core 3, and the Corona Tree is an almost feature complete tree based on Fedora Core 6. (This, according to the Aurora Status notes.) You can find more info on Aurora and download it at http://auroralinux.org/ . Bill Smith Fall River, MA Charter Member of LOPSA > On 12/28/08, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: >> I have a Sparc Ultra 1 which has been running flawlessly since 2003 running >> Ansel 2.4.20-2.3sparc. >> >> Last week after a nine day power outage the system no longer activates eth0, >> the TPE ethernet interface. >> >> I installed a --> >> >> Sun 501-5443 x1049A quad 4-port SBus Fast Ethernet card >> >> The operating system does not recognize this new hardware. >> >> This system has been running so flawlessly for at least four years that I >> have forgotten much of what I had learned about Aurora.(I am an elderly man >> by high tech standards). >> >> The little green input light corresponding to the port to which I have >> attached the fast ethernet cable does illuminate. >> >> Where do I start? >> >> Ken Jones >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 29, 2008

Re: [Wlug] Problem Sparc ULTRA 1 not seeing SBus Fast Ethernet

by Eric Martin

What does lsmod show? Also, are you rolling your own kernels or using stock disro ones? I'm not familiar w/aurora On 12/28/08, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > I have a Sparc Ultra 1 which has been running flawlessly since 2003 running > Ansel 2.4.20-2.3sparc. > > Last week after a nine day power outage the system no longer activates eth0, > the TPE ethernet interface. > > I installed a --> > > Sun 501-5443 x1049A quad 4-port SBus Fast Ethernet card > > The operating system does not recognize this new hardware. > > This system has been running so flawlessly for at least four years that I > have forgotten much of what I had learned about Aurora.(I am an elderly man > by high tech standards). > > The little green input light corresponding to the port to which I have > attached the fast ethernet cable does illuminate. > > Where do I start? > > Ken Jones > >

Dec. 29, 2008

Problem Sparc ULTRA 1 not seeing SBus Fast Ethernet

by Ken Jones

I have a Sparc Ultra 1 which has been running flawlessly since 2003 running Ansel 2.4.20-2.3sparc. Last week after a nine day power outage the system no longer activates eth0, the TPE ethernet interface. I installed a --> Sun 501-5443 x1049A quad 4-port SBus Fast Ethernet card The operating system does not recognize this new hardware. This system has been running so flawlessly for at least four years that I have forgotten much of what I had learned about Aurora.(I am an elderly man by high tech standards). The little green input light corresponding to the port to which I have attached the fast ethernet cable does illuminate. Where do I start? Ken Jones

Dec. 29, 2008

Re: [Wlug] A second Aurora - SPARC question....

by Eric Martin

Frank Sweetser wrote: > Eric Martin wrote: >> Have you tried to ping the loopback address? I know that a fried card >> won't respond to lo replies (127.0.0.1) in Windows, but I'm not sure >> what the behavior is in *NIX. That being said, if the loopback >> interface isn't up then we have our answer. > > That trick won't work under any self-respecting 'nix clone. Unix based > systems have a virtual interface that gets configured with 127.0.0.1/8, and > doesn't care about the state of our physical adapters. > > The reason that works at all under Windows is because Windows doesn't actually > have a loopback interface device driver. (okay, technically there is one, but > it's not installed by default.) Instead, there's some special casing in the > IP stack that makes it consider 127.0.0.1 a hidden, non-removable IP alias on > each regular network interface. > > As a side note, if you're on the same local network as the victime, you can > often leverage this gross hack to bypass Windows firewall rules by sending it > packets with the correct destination MAC address and an IP address of 127.0.0.1. > Very cool hack! Thanks for the info on NIX and lo, I figured it might be different altogether but I wasn't sure. -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F

Dec. 23, 2008

Re: [Wlug] Driver for SUN SBUS ethernet card.

by Chuck Anderson

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 03:27:59PM -0500, Ken Jones wrote: > My SUN ULTRA 1 has lost its eth0 card circuit. > I have purchased a > Sun 501-5443 X1049A Quad 4-Port SBus > Fast Ethernet Card for my SUN ULTRA 1 running Aurora. > The original fast ethernet circuitry is part of the SystemCard. I > do not wish to replace the system card. Will I have a problem > finding a driver? I would suggest checking out some of the docs on the Aurora Wiki, and also perhaps asking your question on the Aurora Sparc Linux list, as there are lots of Sun experts there. http://wiki.auroralinux.net/wiki/ http://auroralinux.org/#mailinglists

Dec. 23, 2008

Driver for SUN SBUS ethernet card.

by Ken Jones

My SUN ULTRA 1 has lost its eth0 card circuit. I have purchased a Sun 501-5443 X1049A Quad 4-Port SBus Fast Ethernet Card for my SUN ULTRA 1 running Aurora. The original fast ethernet circuitry is part of the SystemCard. I do not wish to replace the system card. Will I have a problem finding a driver? Ken Jones

Dec. 23, 2008

Re: [Wlug] A second Aurora - SPARC question....

by Chuck Anderson

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 06:24:52AM -0500, Eric Martin wrote: > Have you tried to ping the loopback address? I know that a fried card > won't respond to lo replies (127.0.0.1) in Windows, but I'm not sure > what the behavior is in *NIX. That being said, if the loopback > interface isn't up then we have our answer. The loopback interface is a separate interface that has no relation whatsoever to any real device.

Dec. 23, 2008

Re: [Wlug] A second Aurora - SPARC question....

by Frank Sweetser

Eric Martin wrote: > Have you tried to ping the loopback address? I know that a fried card > won't respond to lo replies (127.0.0.1) in Windows, but I'm not sure > what the behavior is in *NIX. That being said, if the loopback > interface isn't up then we have our answer. That trick won't work under any self-respecting 'nix clone. Unix based systems have a virtual interface that gets configured with 127.0.0.1/8, and doesn't care about the state of our physical adapters. The reason that works at all under Windows is because Windows doesn't actually have a loopback interface device driver. (okay, technically there is one, but it's not installed by default.) Instead, there's some special casing in the IP stack that makes it consider 127.0.0.1 a hidden, non-removable IP alias on each regular network interface. As a side note, if you're on the same local network as the victime, you can often leverage this gross hack to bypass Windows firewall rules by sending it packets with the correct destination MAC address and an IP address of 127.0.0.1. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

Dec. 23, 2008

Re: [Wlug] A second Aurora - SPARC question....

by Eric Martin

Have you tried to ping the loopback address? I know that a fried card won't respond to lo replies (127.0.0.1) in Windows, but I'm not sure what the behavior is in *NIX. That being said, if the loopback interface isn't up then we have our answer. I wish I could tell you that I have an extra sbus card kicking around but I don't :( -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F Ken Jones wrote: > Oops! > > I just looked inside my ULTRA SPARC ONE. The ethernet I/O appears to be > embedded in the big mother board. That is not good if I am correct. > > Any suggestions?? > > Ken Jones > > Meanwhile my SUN ULTRA running as an Aurora SPARC SAMBA file server > since 1993 has been chugging along just fine. > > I live in Fitchburg. We have been without power for nine days. 110 > volts came up yesterday evening. Much to my chegrin my SUN was > unhappy. I used a rescueCD to boot. All came back except my > ethernet card. It would not start. The little light at the far end > on the IP cord does not glow... > > --------- > /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart > > says, "Bringing up interface eth0: Determining IP information for > eth0 ... failed. > [FAILED]" > > The card is claimed to be a 'sunlance' card. > > Any ideas? Is the card fried do you think? > > I have a second SPARC machine. It's ethernet was working last time > it was powered. Must I swap? > > Ken Jones

Dec. 23, 2008

Re: [Wlug] A second Aurora - SPARC question....

by William Smith

I have an Ultra 60 that needs a home. I have Aurora on it, though it's an old version. The system has been in storage for two years, at least. If anyone is interested, there's the system, the monitor, mouse, and keyboard up for grabs. I can probably make the January meeting. ...Bill On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Adam Gomes <adam(a)unixgeek.net> wrote: > > The output of the previously suggested diagnostics would be helpful, though it > does sounds like the ethernet card is cooked (but let's keep our fingers > crossed). In the meantime, can you please refresh my memory ... Does the > Ultra 1 use the older sbus for cards, or is a PCI based machine? I may have > an sbus ethernet card laying around. > > On Sunday 21 December 2008 18:58:01 Ken Jones wrote: >> Oops! >> >> I just looked inside my ULTRA SPARC ONE. The ethernet I/O appears to be >> embedded in the big mother board. That is not good if I am correct. >> >> Any suggestions?? >> >> Ken Jones >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Ken Jones >> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 6:31 PM >> Subject: Aurora - SPARC question.... >> >> >> Folks, >> >> I've not been WLUG active for a year or more. Back then the half of my >> 111 gig PC disc which was dual booted with FEDORA developed a permanent >> error. The other half's XP installation has been OKAY. I have learned to >> us WINDOWS. >> >> Meanwhile my SUN ULTRA running as an Aurora SPARC SAMBA file server since >> 1993 has been chugging along just fine. >> >> I live in Fitchburg. We have been without power for nine days. 110 >> volts came up yesterday evening. Much to my chegrin my SUN was unhappy. I >> used a rescueCD to boot. All came back except my ethernet card. It would >> not start. The little light at the far end on the IP cord does not glow... >> >> --------- >> /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart >> >> says, "Bringing up interface eth0: Determining IP information for eth0 >> ... failed. [FAILED]" >> >> The card is claimed to be a 'sunlance' card. >> >> Any ideas? Is the card fried do you think? >> >> I have a second SPARC machine. It's ethernet was working last time it >> was powered. Must I swap? >> >> Ken Jones > > > > -- > Adam Gomes > adam(a)unixgeek.net > Public Key @ > http://www.thatguygomer.com/pubkey.txt > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Dec. 22, 2008