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Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by kstratton＠fastmail.us

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 11:05:59 -0400, "Clint Moyer" <cdmoyer(a)charter.net> said: > Analog broadcasts (OTA, Cable, satellite) end Feb 17, 2009 as far as I > know. If you have other info, please point to it. Thanks. > > http://www.dtv.gov/consumercorner.html#whatisdate > > Clint > > > ---- Stephen Daukas <scd(a)daukas.com> wrote: > > ============= > FCC recently mandated that cable/staellite providers must continue to > provide traditional analog (420i, if memory serves) until the year 2012 > (maybe 2014?), despite the 2010 "shut-off" date for over-the-air > broadcast > of " traditional TV"... So, looks like the drop in TV prices I was > hoping > for in the next year or two won't take place for a while longer! (sigh) > > Steve > > On 9/15/07, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > > > > > John> Thanks to Frank and Stephen for their suggestion to try out the > > John> Analog side anyway, maybe I'll still have basic analog on there. > > > > And I do! Cackle cackle cackle! Of course, I won't be surprised if > > sometime down the line, Analog cable get shut off when they convert > > everywhere to pure digital feeds... :] > > > > Thanks again guys, life is pretty good now. > > > > John > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > -- > Stephen C. Daukas > Engineer, Geoscientist, > Environmental Analyst > ________________________________________________ > - Please, before printing, think about the environment - > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug On a pragmatic side, It might make sense to begin to recycle or dispose of some old TVs and non ROHS (leaded solder) monitors before there is a huge surge in this activity. I also would not be surprised that there will be some legislative activity between now and 20012 that makes disposing these TVs and monitors harder. For now, I think the best form of recycling is reuse :) -- kstratton(a)fastmail.us

Sept. 17, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by Brian J. Conway

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 11:05:59 -0400 Clint Moyer <cdmoyer(a)charter.net> wrote: > Analog broadcasts (OTA, Cable, satellite) end Feb 17, 2009 as far as I > know. If you have other info, please point to it. Thanks. > > http://www.dtv.gov/consumercorner.html#whatisdate > > Clint Not specifically an analog signal, but analog TV support. The former is most likely what they'll do, though. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070912-fcc-to-cable-you-must-support… I've seen a lot of dropping TV prices still, myself. Go Pats (in unencrypted QAM)! Brian J. Conway

Sept. 16, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by Clint Moyer

Analog broadcasts (OTA, Cable, satellite) end Feb 17, 2009 as far as I know. If you have other info, please point to it. Thanks. http://www.dtv.gov/consumercorner.html#whatisdate Clint ---- Stephen Daukas <scd(a)daukas.com> wrote: ============= FCC recently mandated that cable/staellite providers must continue to provide traditional analog (420i, if memory serves) until the year 2012 (maybe 2014?), despite the 2010 "shut-off" date for over-the-air broadcast of " traditional TV"... So, looks like the drop in TV prices I was hoping for in the next year or two won't take place for a while longer! (sigh) Steve On 9/15/07, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > > John> Thanks to Frank and Stephen for their suggestion to try out the > John> Analog side anyway, maybe I'll still have basic analog on there. > > And I do! Cackle cackle cackle! Of course, I won't be surprised if > sometime down the line, Analog cable get shut off when they convert > everywhere to pure digital feeds... :] > > Thanks again guys, life is pretty good now. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Stephen C. Daukas Engineer, Geoscientist, Environmental Analyst ________________________________________________ - Please, before printing, think about the environment -

Sept. 16, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by Stephen Daukas

FCC recently mandated that cable/staellite providers must continue to provide traditional analog (420i, if memory serves) until the year 2012 (maybe 2014?), despite the 2010 "shut-off" date for over-the-air broadcast of " traditional TV"... So, looks like the drop in TV prices I was hoping for in the next year or two won't take place for a while longer! (sigh) Steve On 9/15/07, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > > John> Thanks to Frank and Stephen for their suggestion to try out the > John> Analog side anyway, maybe I'll still have basic analog on there. > > And I do! Cackle cackle cackle! Of course, I won't be surprised if > sometime down the line, Analog cable get shut off when they convert > everywhere to pure digital feeds... :] > > Thanks again guys, life is pretty good now. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Stephen C. Daukas Engineer, Geoscientist, Environmental Analyst ________________________________________________ - Please, before printing, think about the environment -

Sept. 16, 2007

Re: [Wlug] System diagnostics

by Aaron Haviland

Mike Leo wrote, on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:50 EDT: > Also, it looks like my debian desktop calls it atsar for some reason > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "kstratton(a)fastmail.us" <kstratton(a)fastmail.us> > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Worcester Linux Users > Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:58:15 AM > Subject: Re: [Wlug] System diagnostics > > Could you provide more information abdout "sar"? > > I tried wikipedia.com, and on my system: man, info, apropos and emerge > (a gentoo distribution tool) for "sar". I did not find anything I > thought was relevant.... on Debian/Ubuntu systems, sar is an alternative provided by either the sysstat or atsar package. The command line options, and formatted output are NOT the same, so any scripts won't easily port from one to the other. In my experience, people are generally referring to the version included in 'sysstat' -- Aaron Haviland

Sept. 15, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by John Stoffel

John> Thanks to Frank and Stephen for their suggestion to try out the John> Analog side anyway, maybe I'll still have basic analog on there. And I do! Cackle cackle cackle! Of course, I won't be surprised if sometime down the line, Analog cable get shut off when they convert everywhere to pure digital feeds... :] Thanks again guys, life is pretty good now. John

Sept. 15, 2007

Re: [Wlug] System diagnostics

by kstratton＠fastmail.us

Thanks, I am now able to find both on www.freshmeat.net. Gentoo linux has an ebuild for the sysstat package that includes the sar command. Thanks for the help. On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:50:09 -0700 (PDT), "Mike Leo" <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> said: > Also, it looks like my debian desktop calls it atsar for some reason > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "kstratton(a)fastmail.us" <kstratton(a)fastmail.us> > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>; Worcester Linux > Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:58:15 AM > Subject: Re: [Wlug] System diagnostics > > Could you provide more information abdout "sar"? > > I tried wikipedia.com, and on my system: man, info, apropos and emerge > (a gentoo distribution tool) for "sar". I did not find anything I > thought was relevant.... > > > On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:18:22 -0700 (PDT), "Mike Leo" <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> > said: > > I learned about "sar" last night due to a server outage...check it out. > > > > I think it will server your purpose > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 5:42:55 PM > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] System diagnostics > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Michael Long wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I just install Ubuntu 6.06 lts. With the box up and running it appears > > > that there is disk activity because the light on the case is active. > > > However running top shows the box is basically idle (CPU < 1%) and "ps > > > aux" shows nothing unusual. I do not claim to be a sys admin however so > > > I may not be interpreting things correctly. The fans seem to be working > > > harder than before as well. > > > > > > What command line tools should I be looking at determine the health of > > > the machine and drives. The os is on an IDE drive and I have a raid > > > (MegaRAID) for the other drive. > > > > > > I know this is a bit vague but I am not sure where to start. I have been > > > using opensuse but now I do not have x or the other tools that come > > > bundled with kde. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mike > > > > HI Mike, > > > > Here's what I would try: > > > > a) Are you sure that the disk activity light on the case is properly > > wired to your MB? Is the light constantly on, or does it flicker? > > > > b) unplug the network cable to insure that the disk activity isn't > > caused by something on the network > > > > c) If you are sufficiently patient and wait, does the activity stop (say > > in 5-10 minute)? > > > > d) What happens if you run "tail -f /var/log/messages" as root ? Lots > > of messages here could cause disk activity. > > > > I'm sure other folks with have other ideas, but that's my 2cents, > > devalued for inflation. > > > > HTH, > > > > Andy > > > > > > - -- > > Andy Stewart, Founder > > Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) > > Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) > > Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > > iD8DBQFG6wBfHl0iXDssISsRAmW4AJsF4LyFbM4xr0iZbSZX4aEFkSrh8gCfbTpP > > /Cqxnygs6eR/rWTvB5/euKs= > > =Gr5U > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > -- > > kstratton(a)fastmail.us > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- kstratton(a)fastmail.us

Sept. 15, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by John Stoffel

Thanks to Frank and Stephen for their suggestion to try out the Analog side anyway, maybe I'll still have basic analog on there. Right now in my basement I have: -------linein-->four way splitter, -7db per ------- cable modem ------- phone box ------- upstairs living room ---- two way splitter, -3db each ----- digital box ----- not sure, VCR? ------- god knows where... :] I've got a rat's nest to untable behind the Entertainment unit, so once I get more cleaned up, I'll see how it goes. The digital picture is nice, as is BBC America. :] And the TiVo can tune the settop box without a problem, which is nice. John

Sept. 15, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by John Stoffel

Jared> A word to the wise, make sure that they actually can port your Jared> number before you switch. I moved into a new place in Uxbridge Jared> a couple years ago. So new that they didn't even have the Jared> cable company's lines - so I just got a package through Verizon Jared> that included DirecTV and DSL. The number ported over just fine. I called on the old in the morning, and called again in the afternoon on the new. Painless. Now we'll see what Verizon says in my final bill. :] [ editout horror story... ] Jared> In the end, I was able to get my original Verizon number back Jared> and get my DSL and DirecTV turned on again, but it was the most Jared> painful experience that I have gone through in quite a while. Jared> I actually still have Charter, but just for the local cable Jared> access package ($13/mo) so that I can watch the selectman's Jared> meetings and stuff like that. Thanks for sharing! I do appreciate it. So far, it just works. And the new connection seems louder to my wife too, so it's a plus. No complaints so far. John

Sept. 15, 2007

Re: [Wlug] System diagnostics

by Gregory Avedissian

kstratton(a)fastmail.us wrote: > Could you provide more information abdout "sar"? > > I tried wikipedia.com, and on my system: man, info, apropos and emerge > (a gentoo distribution tool) for "sar". I did not find anything I > thought was relevant.... > I'm not sure, but I'll guess that 'emerge atsar' will do it. If not, here's the freshmeat page for atsar - http://freshmeat.net/projects/atsar/ Greg

Sept. 15, 2007