September 2005 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Temp job opening

by Mike Leo

wlug members, I work for a health care company in Wellesely Hills that may soon be looking for a temp linux/windows sys admin. I am not sure if this has been officially announced, so I make no promises, nor do I decide who gets hired, so don't look for favor's, nor be mad if this is false hope. I just wanted to extend the information to the team. However, if you are interested, we might by looking for someone with 3+ years linux support (RH) and a 6+ year windows background. we have 380+ Windows/Novell/linux servers, and the linux piece is growing faster and becoming business critical...thus the need for this person. Being the senior linux person here, I want to dedicate myself to linux, which will leave a gap in the windows support. This new role would be to fill in that windows gap, and support linux with me, bridging the gaps in both areas. This will be only a temp/contract position. Typically the contract is for 3 months, but all other contractors here stay until they find perminant rolls (here or elsewhere). There are also other factors that will be discussed if you make it to the interview process. If interested in submitting a resume, please email me at mleo963(a)yahoo.com and I will put your resume in with our recruiter. Thanks Mike

Sept. 16, 2005

Re: [Wlug] samba & symbolic links

by Marc Hughes

lrwxr-xr-x 1 bcurran bcurran 26 Sep 6 15:35 cookbook -> /expspace/ntdist/cookbook/ Here's a stab at an answer... That output shows that your client sees that file as a symlink. So when the client tries to access it, it knows it's a symlink and trys to follow it instead of the server following it for you. I bet you don't have a /expspace/ntdist/cookbook/ directory on your client? Try making one and see if it accesses that on the client. -Marc On 9/13/05, Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> wrote: > Karl, > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 03:49:08PM -0400, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > > > Are you using Absolute links( ex /usr/share ) or Relative (ex > > ../../usr/share)? > > I'm using absolute links, but I did try relative links. I may not > have tried them in conjuction with other changes, such as the "wide > links" samba option. > > > > > What apears as the link on the client? Does the link apear, or is it > > just a empty dir? > > When I do "ls -l" I get a very UNIX-like display. It shows a symbolic > link just like a local file system would show it, with the "->" > notation. > > Here's an example: > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 bcurran bcurran 26 Sep 6 15:35 cookbook -> /expspace/ntdist/cookbook/ > > Note that the owner is not really bcurran -- that changed just like a > typical samba mount. > > The thing that's interesting is that a windows box follows the link > just fine, so I have to conclude that this is a client-side issue. I > recently upgraded from RH9 to fc3, and that's when I noticed this new > (can't follow a link) behavior. > > BTW, I am able to follow a link on the same directory, so I'm assuming > that this is a "cross device" issue. > > Bill > > > > > > > Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > > > >On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 01:14:04PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > > > > > > > >>On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:35:08AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>I have a linux server that's exporting a samba share at a > > >>>windows-dominant site. In a directory of the share, there's a > > >>>symbolic link to a different (non-shared) partition. (We had to move a > > directory due to space limitations.) Windows clients can mount the > > share and follow the symbolic link. My fedora-3 client can mount the > > share (smbmount), but cannot follow the link. I seem to remember that > > a RH 9 client would follow the link. > > >>> > > >>>Any idea what's going on? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>Not sure, but you can try CIFS instead of SMBFS: > > >> > > >>mount -t cifs -o user=<user/workgroup> //server/share /mnt/point > > >> > > >> > > > > > >Chuck, > > > > > >I tried it. It mounted, but the symbolic link behavior was the same. > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Bill > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Wlug mailing list > > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > --- > > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > > US VOIP: (1) 603.966.4448 > > Spain Casa (34) 951.273.347 > > Spain Mobil (34) 617.463.826 > > Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto jabber.org=karl_hiramoto > > ------ > > - > > This is NOT a repeat. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > > US VOIP: 603.966.4448 > > Spain Home from US 011(34) 952.859.417 > > Spain Home from EU 00 (34) 952.859.417 > > Spain Mobil 011 (34) 617.463.826 > > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Sept. 13, 2005

Re: [Wlug] samba & symbolic links

by Bill Mills-Curran

Karl, On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 03:49:08PM -0400, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > Are you using Absolute links( ex /usr/share ) or Relative (ex > ../../usr/share)? I'm using absolute links, but I did try relative links. I may not have tried them in conjuction with other changes, such as the "wide links" samba option. > > What apears as the link on the client? Does the link apear, or is it > just a empty dir? When I do "ls -l" I get a very UNIX-like display. It shows a symbolic link just like a local file system would show it, with the "->" notation. Here's an example: lrwxr-xr-x 1 bcurran bcurran 26 Sep 6 15:35 cookbook -> /expspace/ntdist/cookbook/ Note that the owner is not really bcurran -- that changed just like a typical samba mount. The thing that's interesting is that a windows box follows the link just fine, so I have to conclude that this is a client-side issue. I recently upgraded from RH9 to fc3, and that's when I noticed this new (can't follow a link) behavior. BTW, I am able to follow a link on the same directory, so I'm assuming that this is a "cross device" issue. Bill > > > Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > >On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 01:14:04PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > > > > >>On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:35:08AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I have a linux server that's exporting a samba share at a > >>>windows-dominant site. In a directory of the share, there's a > >>>symbolic link to a different (non-shared) partition. (We had to move a > directory due to space limitations.) Windows clients can mount the > share and follow the symbolic link. My fedora-3 client can mount the > share (smbmount), but cannot follow the link. I seem to remember that > a RH 9 client would follow the link. > >>> > >>>Any idea what's going on? > >>> > >>> > >>Not sure, but you can try CIFS instead of SMBFS: > >> > >>mount -t cifs -o user=<user/workgroup> //server/share /mnt/point > >> > >> > > > >Chuck, > > > >I tried it. It mounted, but the symbolic link behavior was the same. > > > >Thanks, > >Bill > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > -- > > --- > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > US VOIP: (1) 603.966.4448 > Spain Casa (34) 951.273.347 > Spain Mobil (34) 617.463.826 > Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto jabber.org=karl_hiramoto > ------ > - > This is NOT a repeat. > > > > > > -- > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > US VOIP: 603.966.4448 > Spain Home from US 011(34) 952.859.417 > Spain Home from EU 00 (34) 952.859.417 > Spain Mobil 011 (34) 617.463.826 > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 13, 2005

Re: [Wlug] samba & symbolic links

by Karl Hiramoto

Are you using Absolute links( ex /usr/share ) or Relative (ex ../../usr/share)? What apears as the link on the client? Does the link apear, or is it just a empty dir? Bill Mills-Curran wrote: >On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 01:14:04PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > >>On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:35:08AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: >> >> >>>I have a linux server that's exporting a samba share at a >>>windows-dominant site. In a directory of the share, there's a >>>symbolic link to a different (non-shared) partition. (We had to move a directory due to space limitations.) Windows clients can mount the share and follow the symbolic link. My fedora-3 client can mount the share (smbmount), but cannot follow the link. I seem to remember that a RH 9 client would follow the link. >>> >>>Any idea what's going on? >>> >>> >>Not sure, but you can try CIFS instead of SMBFS: >> >>mount -t cifs -o user=<user/workgroup> //server/share /mnt/point >> >> > >Chuck, > >I tried it. It mounted, but the symbolic link behavior was the same. > >Thanks, >Bill >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- --- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> US VOIP: (1) 603.966.4448 Spain Casa (34) 951.273.347 Spain Mobil (34) 617.463.826 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto jabber.org=karl_hiramoto ------ - This is NOT a repeat. -- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> US VOIP: 603.966.4448 Spain Home from US 011(34) 952.859.417 Spain Home from EU 00 (34) 952.859.417 Spain Mobil 011 (34) 617.463.826 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto

Sept. 13, 2005

Re: [Wlug] LVM snapshot questions.

by John Stoffel

Adam> o Are snapshots persistent across reboots? If not by default, can Adam> they be made to be persistent? >From what I know, LVM snapshots aren't that reliable, but I admit I haven't touched them lately. Adam> o How many snapshots can I have at once? Bunches I think, but... Adam> Last year I took advantage of one of those occasional Tiger Adam> Direct ( shameless plug ;) deals to get myself a 200GB drive for Adam> 50 bucks. I am using the drive to backup my machines. Right Adam> now I backup once a month by copying the user data from my Adam> iBook, my wife's iMac, and my Knoppix laptop to the drive. Each Adam> time it comes to about 15GB total. I am beginning to fill the Adam> drive, so I want to design a more efficient way of using it with Adam> OSS tools. My plan is this: What some people do is use 'rbackup' which will only backup those files which actually change, and hardlink to the un-changed ones. This way each snapshot looks complete, but they're actually fairly compressed. http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ And google for "rbackup rsync snapshot" and you'll get more hits. Adam> o Acquire a cheap used PIII pc. Install the 200GB drive and Centos Adam> (for familiarity's sake, RHEL is one of the distros I use at work) sounds good. I've been looking to setup a main home file/backup/mysql/http server type device with lots of disk. But I want it to be *quiet* so I can just leave it on all the time and not worry about noise bothering people. Unlike my current do everything box which is loud. One of the Via EPIC boards looks nice, if it could hold enough disks to make a good RAID5 setup with hotspare. John

Sept. 13, 2005

Re: [Wlug] samba & symbolic links

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 01:14:04PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:35:08AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > I have a linux server that's exporting a samba share at a > > windows-dominant site. In a directory of the share, there's a > > symbolic link to a different (non-shared) partition. (We had to move > > a directory due to space limitations.) Windows clients can mount the > > share and follow the symbolic link. My fedora-3 client can mount the > > share (smbmount), but cannot follow the link. I seem to remember that > > a RH 9 client would follow the link. > > > > Any idea what's going on? > > Not sure, but you can try CIFS instead of SMBFS: > > mount -t cifs -o user=<user/workgroup> //server/share /mnt/point Chuck, I tried it. It mounted, but the symbolic link behavior was the same. Thanks, Bill

Sept. 13, 2005

Re: [Wlug] samba & symbolic links

by Chuck Anderson

On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:35:08AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I have a linux server that's exporting a samba share at a > windows-dominant site. In a directory of the share, there's a > symbolic link to a different (non-shared) partition. (We had to move > a directory due to space limitations.) Windows clients can mount the > share and follow the symbolic link. My fedora-3 client can mount the > share (smbmount), but cannot follow the link. I seem to remember that > a RH 9 client would follow the link. > > Any idea what's going on? Not sure, but you can try CIFS instead of SMBFS: mount -t cifs -o user=<user/workgroup> //server/share /mnt/point

Sept. 13, 2005

samba & symbolic links

by Bill Mills-Curran

I have a linux server that's exporting a samba share at a windows-dominant site. In a directory of the share, there's a symbolic link to a different (non-shared) partition. (We had to move a directory due to space limitations.) Windows clients can mount the share and follow the symbolic link. My fedora-3 client can mount the share (smbmount), but cannot follow the link. I seem to remember that a RH 9 client would follow the link. Any idea what's going on? Thanks, Bill

Sept. 13, 2005

Re: [Wlug] workspace selection by app?

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 12:49:03PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 09:41:31AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > Is there a way to have an application start in all gnome workspaces? > > For my particular need, I am using xmessage to inform me of specific > > events on my machine. To make it harder to lose track of the xmessage > > (pop-up) window, I'd like it to display in all my workspaces. I > > figure there's some magic setting in gconf (or, even better, an X > > display setting), but I can't find any documentation on it. > > Your window manager controls this. For Metacity at least, you can set > the window to appear "On All Workspaces" and this setting should be > rememberd across session restarts. Chuck, I guess that's a way to try to find the settings in gconf. Make the change as you suggest, log out (using the "save current settings" option), then see what shows up in gconf. Thanks, Bill

Sept. 11, 2005

Re: [Wlug] workspace selection by app?

by Chuck Anderson

On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 09:41:31AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Is there a way to have an application start in all gnome workspaces? > For my particular need, I am using xmessage to inform me of specific > events on my machine. To make it harder to lose track of the xmessage > (pop-up) window, I'd like it to display in all my workspaces. I > figure there's some magic setting in gconf (or, even better, an X > display setting), but I can't find any documentation on it. Your window manager controls this. For Metacity at least, you can set the window to appear "On All Workspaces" and this setting should be rememberd across session restarts.

Sept. 11, 2005