August 2005 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] PCI IDE card?

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] PCI IDE card?; "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> adds: Chuck> Most IDE/SATA RAID (especially onboard) is shite and completely not Chuck> worth using, to the point that Linux software RAID is vastly Chuck> superior. Even if I had a so-called "RAID" chipset on my Chuck> motherboard, I'd disable it and use software RAID. [snip] john> I keep waffling back and forth between RAID1 (mirroring) and RAID5. john> And I keep waffling between booting from RAID or not. Part of the If you don't boot from RAID, then you still have a single point of failure. It's quite possible that this is a fine solution for your home setup. john> problem is that to boot off raid, you need to build a intrd image, john> and since I do a bunch of kernel compiles and reboots all the time john> (say once a week or so...) I've been a bit leary of all that. Let me rephrase your reasoning: You don't want to use an initrd because you aren't familiar with the process. Just because you do a lot of kernel builds/reboots (and your definition of a lot is my definition of very few, here), that is no reason not to use an initrd. What distribution do you use? You could simply use the packaging scripts that they provide to build your custom kernels. This, in the end, would be the best solution in my opinion. john> Now that would be a good meeting some evening, talking about and john> showing how to setup a bootable RAID system for the OS and how to john> upgrade your kernel easily and automatically. Two separate issues, I think. -Jeff

Aug. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] PCI IDE card?

by John Stoffel

Chuck> Most IDE/SATA RAID (especially onboard) is shite and completely Chuck> not worth using, to the point that Linux software RAID is Chuck> vastly superior. Even if I had a so-called "RAID" chipset on Chuck> my motherboard, I'd disable it and use software RAID. I've been looking into HW RAID for my home setup, just because with 120gb drives, it's almost impossible to backup to tape, esp when your DLT7k starts flaking out on you. I keep waffling back and forth between RAID1 (mirroring) and RAID5. And I keep waffling between booting from RAID or not. Part of the problem is that to boot off raid, you need to build a intrd image, and since I do a bunch of kernel compiles and reboots all the time (say once a week or so...) I've been a bit leary of all that. Now that would be a good meeting some evening, talking about and showing how to setup a bootable RAID system for the OS and how to upgrade your kernel easily and automatically. Sure, I know there are tutorials out there, somewhere, I just haven't had time to play with it. So for now, I compromise and boot off a single disk for the OS, but my data is mirrored. Works well so far. John

Aug. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] PCI IDE card?

by Chuck Anderson

On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 02:07:04AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > yeah, the nice thing about IDE raids is that they're dirt cheap to setup for a > ton of storage ... the problem with IDE raids is that they're dirt cheap > hardware :) > > my new A8N-SLI mobo is nice in that it has onboard SATA raid ... maybe once i > get some $$$ saved up i can blow it on some more SATA raptors ... probably > not though, those WPI loans suck Most IDE/SATA RAID (especially onboard) is shite and completely not worth using, to the point that Linux software RAID is vastly superior. Even if I had a so-called "RAID" chipset on my motherboard, I'd disable it and use software RAID.

Aug. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] PCI IDE card?

by Mike Frysinger

On Tuesday 30 August 2005 05:04 pm, John Stoffel wrote: > Mike> i want to say a highpoint card ... like HPT3xx > > I've been using my HPT302 without any problems for quite a while now. > But I'm not letting it go right now... at least not until I get a SATA > 3ware controller at some point. :] yeah, the nice thing about IDE raids is that they're dirt cheap to setup for a ton of storage ... the problem with IDE raids is that they're dirt cheap hardware :) my new A8N-SLI mobo is nice in that it has onboard SATA raid ... maybe once i get some $$$ saved up i can blow it on some more SATA raptors ... probably not though, those WPI loans suck anyone have experience with SATA drives and have any recommendations ? ive only heard good things about the WD raptors and i must say, the one i have for my system drive is awesome -mike

Aug. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] PCI IDE card?

by John Stoffel

Mike> i want to say a highpoint card ... like HPT3xx I've been using my HPT302 without any problems for quite a while now. But I'm not letting it go right now... at least not until I get a SATA 3ware controller at some point. :]

Aug. 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] PCI IDE card?

by Mike Frysinger

On Tuesday 30 August 2005 02:19 pm, Keller, Tim wrote: > Sounds like either a promise or a 3ware card... i want to say a highpoint card ... like HPT3xx -mike

Aug. 30, 2005

RE: [Wlug] PCI IDE card?

by Keller, Tim

Sounds like either a promise or a 3ware card... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Mike Frysinger Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 2:05 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] PCI IDE card? On Tuesday 30 August 2005 01:57 pm, Tim Trachimowicz wrote: > I've got a couple of flavors on Linux running on my machine and I'm > looking to add another HD to the system to get another couple of distros > running. If you're like me, you've probably got boxes of random > computer parts sitting around your desk/office "waiting" to be put to > good use... The one thing I >>don't<< have is a PCI card that'll add an > extra IDE channel. Does anyone have an old one they'd part with? I'd > gladly pay for it but donations are also accepted. :) I'm in > Worcester/Framingham and can easily pick it up... Thanks! actually i have a 66mhz card i was using in a raid, but i dont need it anymore since ive dismantled said raid, so you're welcome to it i forget exactly what it is, but linux-2.4 and linux-2.6 have drivers for it and they seemed pretty solid -mike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] PCI IDE card?

by Mike Frysinger

On Tuesday 30 August 2005 01:57 pm, Tim Trachimowicz wrote: > I've got a couple of flavors on Linux running on my machine and I'm > looking to add another HD to the system to get another couple of distros > running. If you're like me, you've probably got boxes of random > computer parts sitting around your desk/office "waiting" to be put to > good use... The one thing I >>don't<< have is a PCI card that'll add an > extra IDE channel. Does anyone have an old one they'd part with? I'd > gladly pay for it but donations are also accepted. :) I'm in > Worcester/Framingham and can easily pick it up... Thanks! actually i have a 66mhz card i was using in a raid, but i dont need it anymore since ive dismantled said raid, so you're welcome to it i forget exactly what it is, but linux-2.4 and linux-2.6 have drivers for it and they seemed pretty solid -mike

Aug. 30, 2005

SR Solaris position

by Ritacco, Alan

All, I have posted in the past here (successfully once) regarding job opening(s) at UMASS Medical School in Worcester MA. A SR Unix (Solaris) Admin position is now open and is accepting resumes. Thanks Al

Aug. 30, 2005

PCI IDE card?

by Tim Trachimowicz

I've got a couple of flavors on Linux running on my machine and I'm looking to add another HD to the system to get another couple of distros running. If you're like me, you've probably got boxes of random computer parts sitting around your desk/office "waiting" to be put to good use... The one thing I >>don't<< have is a PCI card that'll add an extra IDE channel. Does anyone have an old one they'd part with? I'd gladly pay for it but donations are also accepted. :) I'm in Worcester/Framingham and can easily pick it up... Thanks! --Track

Aug. 30, 2005