April 2005 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] New problem! FC3 install

by Chuck R. Anderson

On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 04:09:36PM -0400, Jerome Walczak wrote: > vertical colored lines. I read that this can be fixed by editing the > xorg.conf (or something like that) file & setting everything to defaults > & that the issue is basically with the monitor being set at too high a > resolution but how do I do that? First you have to disable the graphical bootup, and boot into runlevel 3 which disables the gdm graphical login screen: At the bootup menu, hit any key to stop the auto-boot. Then use the arrow keys to move to a Fedora Core (2.6.xx-xx) line, and hit 'e'. Then move to the kernel /vmlinuz... line and hit 'e' again. Now move to the end of that line and delete 'rhgb quiet' and replace it with a space and a three: ' 3'. Then hit enter to save the line, and finally type 'b' to boot the kernel. You should then be able to login as root at the text console and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf using e.g. nano: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf To start up the gdm graphical login screen afterwards, switch to runlevel 5 by typing: telinit 5

April 23, 2005

New problem! FC3 install

by Jerome Walczak

Jared & everyone - thanks for all your help & advice, I'm going to try Ubuntu I think if I can't get FC 3 to work out. The problem I'm having now is with the FC 3 install. I burned the four cd's and upgraded my old box & everything went fine, a bit slow but fine (install took about an hour). Now I boot up for the first time and as soon as it hits kudzu and checks for newly installed equipment the monitor goes to vertical colored lines. I read that this can be fixed by editing the xorg.conf (or something like that) file & setting everything to defaults & that the issue is basically with the monitor being set at too high a resolution but how do I do that? Anger Is A Gift. -----Original Message----- From: Jared Greenwald [mailto:greenwaldjared@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 2:43 AM To: Jerome Walczak Subject: Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130? That depends on how you characterize "easier to work with"... If you mean - easier to install - you might want to try ubuntu linux (http://ubuntulinux.org) If you mean - easier package management - you might want Gentoo. I have to say that I'm rather biased towards Gentoo - purely because I used it in most of my systems that don't have to be Redhat/Fedora/Suse. (I work for a major software house and our main product is supported on the various Redhat and Suse streams so I have to have some systems running those OSes.) All of my home network servers, and both my home and office desktops are both Gentoo (I'm also currently building a mythtv box - http://mythtv.org - and that's Gentoo also). The biggest thing with Gentoo is that you compile everything - so when a new version of KDE comes out - you compile the whole thing - but you don't actually sit there and run make. The thing that I like the most is that the package management is really good. Everything is designed to pull the source kits (and any patches) directly from the project webpage for a given project. You just tell the install tools that you want to install or upgrade a package and it figures out all of the appropriate dependencies for your system (depending on what you already have installed and some configuration params) then it starts downloading source and building things automagically. Also, since you are building the system up from scratch (there is no gui installer or anything - all command-line) you get to decide exactly what is on your system and exactly how it gets setup. There's about 100 core packages (including kernel source, system logger, cron, etc...) but that doesn't include X or any of those things - which is nice for server installations. I've found that the Fedora installer hides too much for installing servers - for desktops its not really all that clear either. Ubuntu hides everything, but you go into it knowing that and it actually figures out what type of installation its doing (laptop/desktop). I had that on my laptop for a while and it ran really well - there's not much package selection there - its more a pre-canned set of binaries depending on your system type (it even knew to download the gnome battery applet for monitoring my laptop battery). So, now that I've sufficiently confused you... did that help at all? Keep in mind that I wrote this at 2:45A - so it might be a little incoherent and rambling... Let me know whatever questions you have and I'll try to answer them... -Jarred -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/2005

April 23, 2005

Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Chuck R. Anderson

On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 07:09:29PM -0400, Jerome Walczak wrote: > but no go, the network card is still MIA - I tried downloading & burning > the SRPMS images for Fedora 3 but I can't boot from them - I'm going to > download the other images listed on the site & try them - does anybody > know why I couldn't boot from the SRPMS images? SRPMS are source code. You don't need them unless you are going to develop Fedora. You need the 4 i386 .iso files, or you can get just the boot.iso and do a HTTP or FTP install off the internet.

April 23, 2005

RE: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Jerome Walczak

Not just yet. I'm in the process of downloading & burning some cd's which (hopefully) will allow me to upgrade the current installation - I'm going to try to go from FC 1 to FC 3 - the cd's I burnt before didn't boot & didn't work ... If the new version doesn't work or I can't get it to install right I'll swap out the MN card for another one I have spare ... Can anyone give me a quick explanation of why the SRPMS cd's didn't boot? I haven't tried any other distros yet with this system but I'm thinking it may be a good idea. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Jared Greenwald Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 9:36 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130? I assume that means that you gave up on Fedora? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005

April 23, 2005

Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Jared Greenwald

I assume that means that you gave up on Fedora? On 4/22/05, Jerome Walczak <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > Uses the prism 2 chipset, or maybe just prism, but either way its a > standard (to myknowledge) chipset found on linksys cards. So under normal > circumstances you should be able to use the tulip module to get this to > work. But of course microsoft had to go in and put in their 2 cents and > screw it up for everyone. Apparently the I/O address built onto the card was > changed so you have to rewrite the tulip module manually in order to get it > to work. To begin insert the following line at line 201 (its a function I > beleive) of the tulip module source code (tulip_core.c) > " {0x1414, 0x0002, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, COMET}, " > save and do the following commands. > cd /usr/src/linux**** #(**** = kernel number) > make dep > make modules > make modules_install > do a restart and everything should be ok > right now I'm using mine in slackware so I know it works. > > --- I got this from linuxquestions.org ... I tried doing this but no > go, the network card is still MIA - I tried downloading & burning the SRPMS > images for Fedora 3 but I can't boot from them - I'm going to download the > other images listed on the site & try them - does anybody know why I > couldn't boot from the SRPMS images? > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

April 23, 2005

RE: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Jerome Walczak

Uses the prism 2 chipset, or maybe just prism, but either way its a standard (to myknowledge) chipset found on linksys cards. So under normal circumstances you should be able to use the tulip module to get this to work. But of course microsoft had to go in and put in their 2 cents and screw it up for everyone. Apparently the I/O address built onto the card was changed so you have to rewrite the tulip module manually in order to get it to work. To begin insert the following line at line 201 (its a function I beleive) of the tulip module source code (tulip_core.c) " {0x1414, 0x0002, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, COMET}, " save and do the following commands. cd /usr/src/linux**** #(**** = kernel number) make dep make modules make modules_install do a restart and everything should be ok right now I'm using mine in slackware so I know it works. --- I got this from linuxquestions.org ... I tried doing this but no go, the network card is still MIA - I tried downloading & burning the SRPMS images for Fedora 3 but I can't boot from them - I'm going to download the other images listed on the site & try them - does anybody know why I couldn't boot from the SRPMS images? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005

April 22, 2005

Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Jared Greenwald

That was the point I was trying to make... On 4/22/05, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> wrote: > ==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?; "Jerome Walczak" <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> adds: > > vze4jtbs> The kernel I have installed is 2.4 --- I'm currently > vze4jtbs> downloading version 3 off the site & expect everything to be > vze4jtbs> ready to burn in about, oh 3 hours or so. We'll see if it > vze4jtbs> works. Or ... Is there any way to install a new kernel in Fedora > vze4jtbs> 1? Forgive me if I'm not saying that right but that's what I > vze4jtbs> think is possible? > > You would need to update/install other packages to get a 2.6 kernel to boot > on a 2.4 based distribution. Arjan used to keep around all of the > necessary packages on his people page, but he's since removed that. I > don't believe it to be worth the headache. > > -Jeff

April 22, 2005

Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Jared Greenwald

It would really have to depend on the chipset that is on the card. Can you run lspci? On 4/22/05, Eric Martin <freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I believe you can grab a newer kernel although it would prob be an FC3 > (Fedora Core 3) kernel. I personally haven't used Fedora much so I'm not > sure. Have you tried googling that name? I've never even heard of that > nic. From the quick google search I did it sounds like it's a Microsoft > card. Did see a few topics about linux drivers, but all dead ends at a > short glance. > > > On 4/22/05, Jerome Walczak <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > The kernel I have installed is 2.4 --- I'm currently downloading > > version 3 off the site & expect everything to be ready to burn in about, > > oh 3 hours or so. We'll see if it works. Or ... Is there any way to > > install a new kernel in Fedora 1? Forgive me if I'm not saying that > > right but that's what I think is possible? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > > Behalf Of Jared Greenwald > > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:23 PM > > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130? > > > > I would imagine that a newer release of Linux might have it. I don't > > even remember if Fedora 1 was in the 2.6 kernel stream... > > > > -Jared > > > > On 4/21/05, Jerome Walczak <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > OK here we go - I'm a Linux newbie &'ve used Mandrake in the > > > past occasionally but that's about it. I've installed Fedora 1 on an > > > old computer at work but it has an MN-130 network card & the system > > > isn't recognizing that it's there. According to a couple articles I've > > > > > checked I need to edit the Tulip driver (tulip_core.c) & add a line of > > > > > code at line 201. I did this and then checked the dependencies & typed > > > > > modules_install & restarted the system & STILL the network card didn't > > > > > show up. What am I doing wrong? Does anyone have any advice to get me > > > out of this frustration? I'm very close to swapping out the card for > > > another one that's more likely to work but I'd like to avoid that if > > > possible ... Can anybody help? > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

April 22, 2005

RE: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?; "Jerome Walczak" <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> adds: vze4jtbs> The kernel I have installed is 2.4 --- I'm currently vze4jtbs> downloading version 3 off the site & expect everything to be vze4jtbs> ready to burn in about, oh 3 hours or so. We'll see if it vze4jtbs> works. Or ... Is there any way to install a new kernel in Fedora vze4jtbs> 1? Forgive me if I'm not saying that right but that's what I vze4jtbs> think is possible? You would need to update/install other packages to get a 2.6 kernel to boot on a 2.4 based distribution. Arjan used to keep around all of the necessary packages on his people page, but he's since removed that. I don't believe it to be worth the headache. -Jeff

April 22, 2005

Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130?

by Eric Martin

I believe you can grab a newer kernel although it would prob be an FC3 (Fedora Core 3) kernel. I personally haven't used Fedora much so I'm not sure. Have you tried googling that name? I've never even heard of that nic. >From the quick google search I did it sounds like it's a Microsoft card. Did see a few topics about linux drivers, but all dead ends at a short glance. On 4/22/05, Jerome Walczak <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > The kernel I have installed is 2.4 --- I'm currently downloading > version 3 off the site & expect everything to be ready to burn in about, > oh 3 hours or so. We'll see if it works. Or ... Is there any way to > install a new kernel in Fedora 1? Forgive me if I'm not saying that > right but that's what I think is possible? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Jared Greenwald > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:23 PM > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [Wlug] FW: MN-130? > > I would imagine that a newer release of Linux might have it. I don't > even remember if Fedora 1 was in the 2.6 kernel stream... > > -Jared > > On 4/21/05, Jerome Walczak <vze4jtbs(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > OK here we go - I'm a Linux newbie &'ve used Mandrake in the > > past occasionally but that's about it. I've installed Fedora 1 on an > > old computer at work but it has an MN-130 network card & the system > > isn't recognizing that it's there. According to a couple articles I've > > > checked I need to edit the Tulip driver (tulip_core.c) & add a line of > > > code at line 201. I did this and then checked the dependencies & typed > > > modules_install & restarted the system & STILL the network card didn't > > > show up. What am I doing wrong? Does anyone have any advice to get me > > out of this frustration? I'm very close to swapping out the card for > > another one that's more likely to work but I'd like to avoid that if > > possible ... Can anybody help? > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 22, 2005