February 2005 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] xbiff

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] xbiff; Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> adds: ==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] xbiff; Jeff Kinz <jkinz(a)kinz.org> adds: jkinz> On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:50:13AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:07:18AM -0500, Jeff Kinz wrote: > >>> replacement? hmm - my email clients seem to let me know without extra >>> > features. >>> Mine notifies me, too, but only if I'm in that screen. (Multiple >>> screens (insert correct name if not "screens") on my desktop.) Also, I >>> use it to notify me of new activity in other files. It's really quite >>> flexible and useful for local event notification. jkinz> Sounds very useful. I believe Gnome and KDE have built something jkinz> into their respective packages to do similar functionality. jkinz> Also- didn't something called "inotify" just make it into the jkinz> kernel? I think that is also a file change notification utility? jmoyer> It's not in the kernel as of 2.6.10. There are patches, of course, jmoyer> but even if it were in the kernel, it wouldn't be a drop in jmoyer> replacement for xbiff (obviously). jmoyer> Though, it wouldn't be too difficult to write a replacement using jmoyer> inotify. I just looked into this further. It seems inotify, in its current form, has little chance of inclusion in mainstream kernels. Al Viro puked all over it, and with good reason. You could use dnotify, but that would mean more caching within the user space app than should be necessary. But, that really isn't the issue here. Sorry, Bill, I don't know what others use to replace xbiff. You could always build and install it yourself, especially since it works for you. -Jeff

Feb. 1, 2005

Re: [Wlug] xbiff

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] xbiff; Jeff Kinz <jkinz(a)kinz.org> adds: jkinz> On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:50:13AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:07:18AM -0500, Jeff Kinz wrote: > >> replacement? hmm - my email clients seem to let me know without extra > >> features. >> Mine notifies me, too, but only if I'm in that screen. (Multiple >> screens (insert correct name if not "screens") on my desktop.) Also, I >> use it to notify me of new activity in other files. It's really quite >> flexible and useful for local event notification. jkinz> Sounds very useful. I believe Gnome and KDE have built something jkinz> into their respective packages to do similar functionality. jkinz> Also- didn't something called "inotify" just make it into the jkinz> kernel? I think that is also a file change notification utility? It's not in the kernel as of 2.6.10. There are patches, of course, but even if it were in the kernel, it wouldn't be a drop in replacement for xbiff (obviously). Though, it wouldn't be too difficult to write a replacement using inotify. -Jeff

Feb. 1, 2005

Re: [Wlug] xbiff

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] xbiff; Jeff Kinz <jkinz(a)kinz.org> adds: jkinz> On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 09:38:52AM -0500, Charles R. Anderson wrote: >> Hey Phro, do you still maintain PhroMail ;-) jkinz> That's Frank Sweetsers baby, isn't it? Yes, Frank wrote that when learning to program with the gtk+ library, iirc. I never maintained it, though I did submit patches. ;) From the readme: ,---- | Where the heck did you come up with *that* name? | --------------------------- | | When I first started writing this program, I didn't have a good name for | it. I mentioned to a friend of mine - you guessed it, his nickname was | Phro - that I was writing an xbiff replacement. He said "Yeah! You can | call it phromail - it'll send you mail to let you know that you've got new | mail!" While the overall idea didn't quite pan out, the name stuck. `---- -Jeff (a.k.a. phro)

Feb. 1, 2005

Re: [Wlug] PSC1210 and CUPS server

by Chuck Haines

I actually ended up figuring out a way to get it to work. Aparently HP doesn't ship the INF file that is required, they force you to use their stupid setup program, which assumes the printer is locally connected. So since I had the print drivers installed in cups and samba set up for the printers, I was able to install an Adobe Generic Postscript printer and point it to the samba printer. It seems to work fine since the all processing is done on the linux machine. Thanks for everyone's help. On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 23:17:11 -0500, Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 04:59:23PM -0500, Chuck Haines wrote: > > I just recently decided to put my PSC1210 on my linux server so I > > could share it with other people. I installed it using cups just > > fine, it's prints beautiful from the linux machine. However when I > > try and install the printer from Windows, it asks me for the INF file > > to install the driver. Not unfortunately HP doesn't include this INF, > > as they want you to install all their crap. I was curious if anyone > > else had any experience with this. > > > > Chuck > > > <snip> > > Hmmm... I thought you'd need to set up Samba. When you configure > Samba, there's a place where you can store the setup files for a > printer so that a Windows box can get them from there. I've never > done the driver directory setup myself -- it's one of those things I > never get around to doing. > > Bill > -- Chuck Haines chaines(a)gmail.com ------------------------------------------- Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity TKE-ZM Web Coordinator ECE Systems Administrator ------------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex YIM: CyberGrex_27 ICQ: 3707881 ------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt

Feb. 1, 2005

Re: [Wlug] PSC1210 and CUPS server

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 04:59:23PM -0500, Chuck Haines wrote: > I just recently decided to put my PSC1210 on my linux server so I > could share it with other people. I installed it using cups just > fine, it's prints beautiful from the linux machine. However when I > try and install the printer from Windows, it asks me for the INF file > to install the driver. Not unfortunately HP doesn't include this INF, > as they want you to install all their crap. I was curious if anyone > else had any experience with this. > > Chuck > <snip> Hmmm... I thought you'd need to set up Samba. When you configure Samba, there's a place where you can store the setup files for a printer so that a Windows box can get them from there. I've never done the driver directory setup myself -- it's one of those things I never get around to doing. Bill

Feb. 1, 2005

Re: [Wlug] PSC1210 and CUPS server

by James Baldassari

Also, be aware that Windows formats documents _before_ sending them to the printer, so when you have CUPS serving up a printer with Samba to Windows machines you need to tell the CUPS server to expect preformatted data: in /etc/cups/mime.types uncomment this line: #application/octet-stream in /etc/cups/mime.convs uncomment this line: #application/octet-stream application/vnd.cups-raw 0 - As for the INF file, you might just have to run the HP install program on one machine and try to figure out which INF file it installed for the printer. If you can find out which one is correct, you should be able to either copy it to the other Windows machines or configure CUPS/Samba to push the driver to the Windows clients when they add the printer. -James > On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 16:59 -0500, Chuck Haines wrote: >> I just recently decided to put my PSC1210 on my linux server so I >> could share it with other people. I installed it using cups just >> fine, it's prints beautiful from the linux machine. However when I >> try and install the printer from Windows, it asks me for the INF file >> to install the driver. Not unfortunately HP doesn't include this INF, >> as they want you to install all their crap. I was curious if anyone >> else had any experience with this. >> > > I am not sure whether this is the proper way to do it(ideologically and > practically) but I remember installing ESP print pro on win machine to > make it capable of printing via Internet Printing Protocol, IPP. > > Of course, do not forget to specify a list of allowed clients > in /etc/cupsd.conf > > Baris > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Feb. 1, 2005