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Re: [Wlug] Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 7, Issue 11

by Jeff Moyer

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 7, Issue 11; Josh Huber <huber(a)alum.wpi.edu> adds: huber> Thumper <postgres(a)sedo.net> writes: >> On the other hand I have many good things to say about RCN. Fast, not >> bound to specific MAC address, great uptime, IP addresses don't change >> very often... Grass is much greener on the RCN side of the fence. At >> least from my vantage point. huber> Yes, I've had excellent service from RCN. I even have a static IP huber> address, and the connection has been up for ~8 months no with NO huber> issues. Assuming you pay for a static ip, they block Heh. How quickly we forget, Mr. Huber. Remember when you called tech support, and the guy gave you network info which was totally horked? Like a gateway not on your subnet! - -phro -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 <http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/> iD8DBQFArLpBH/inyh944bQRAiloAKC3+wAEZjjXDVusFegw/q+tGTT90gCgsXFI l/LppDitb70ImuyBGZp/J88= =HCDC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

May 20, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 7, Issue 11

by Josh Huber

Thumper <postgres(a)sedo.net> writes: > On the other hand I have many good things to say about RCN. Fast, > not bound to specific MAC address, great uptime, IP addresses don't > change very often... Grass is much greener on the RCN side of the > fence. At least from my vantage point. Yes, I've had excellent service from RCN. I even have a static IP address, and the connection has been up for ~8 months no with NO issues. Assuming you pay for a static ip, they block nothing. (otherwise they block outbound SMTP to anywhere but their SMTP server, and various inbound ports). Unfortunately, I think RCN isn't available in the Worcester area, is it? hmmmm....doesn't look too good :P -----------8<-----------8<-----------8<-----------8<-----------8<---- Congratulations! RCN provides service to your area! Your Address: 9 GOULDING ST worcester, MA 01609 The following services are available to the address shown above: Dialup Internet -- Josh Huber

May 20, 2004

Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 7, Issue 11

by Thumper

Since I have no good things to say about Comcast/ATT, I refuse to say anything about that rotten, thieving company that will never get any more of my business. On the other hand I have many good things to say about RCN. Fast, not bound to specific MAC address, great uptime, IP addresses don't change very often... Grass is much greener on the RCN side of the fence. At least from my vantage point. > > I have Comcast (AT&T Broadband) in southern NH and have nothing but > > good things to say about them. In the 3 years I had them, I think I > > can count the number of outages on 1 hand and they were always very > > brief. > > > > > > > > > I've heard nothing but overwhelming complaints about Comcast. I have had > > > email contact with dozens of municipalities who use Comcast for Internet > > > service. Things like "weeks without service" is a common theme. I can't > > > remember hearing anything good about them. > > > > > > - Rob > > >

May 20, 2004

Vonage

by Dwight A. Ernest

We use Vonage at home. It works well for us. We have two lines, one for FAX and one for voice (the single Cisco box can support two lines). Our connectivity is through Charter Communications; we're in Boylston; the service we have is 768 down, 256 up. Keller, Tim wrote: > Does anybody on the WLUG list use Vonage? I constantly see banner ads for > them, but I don't know anybody who uses them. -- Dwight A. Ernest, dwight at significant dot com GPG key A6999567 Cell: +1-508-523-1416 FAX: +1-978-405-2504 YIM: dwight_ernest RHCE #803004293310030 http://significant.com/~dwight/ KA2CNN Papa, partner, pilot, net geek, sysadmin, consultant, cohouser.

May 19, 2004

RE: [Wlug] Comcast experiences Plug for Speakeasy.net

by Keller, Tim

Does anybody on the WLUG list use Vonage? I constantly see banner ads for them, but I don't know anybody who uses them. Later, Tim. "I can not bring myself to believe that if knowledge presents danger, the solution is ignorance" - Isaac Asimov -----Original Message----- From: Josh Huber [mailto:huber@alum.wpi.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:41 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Comcast experiences Plug for Speakeasy.net Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> writes: > the trouble is that if everyone has a cellphone and thus the local > line never gets used, you have to add $30 to the price of dsl since > that's how much a local line will run you -mike Check for the no long distance, local metered plans. I had this (before I canceled my phone line) and it cost $10 from verizon. After the excessive taxes and fees, it came out to around $16, if I recall. All outgoing calls cost money, so you really only want to do this if you don't use the phone for voice... -- Josh Huber _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 19, 2004

RE: [Wlug] Charter experiences? -was:Comcast experiences ?

by Baris Hasdemir

On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 09:09, Martin, Eric wrote: > Um...what package did you have with Verizon / Charter? Last I checked, > verizon was 49.99, and Charter only adds on $35 to your cable bill if you > already have any form of cable (or it costs an extra 10 or 11 if you > don't)...Granted those are base rates, but...'sides, buy the bridge, you can > get one from Best Buy for $60 or less if you get rebates.... > > Eric > Verizon 1.5Mbits/s is $35 for a year now. Charter was 2Mbits/s for $43.28 including tax and $2 or $3/month rent for the cable modem. I guess they are supplying 3Mbits/s for the same price now. I did not have any form of tv subscription, so charter package was only high speed cable service.

May 19, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Comcast experiences Plug for Speakeasy.net

by Josh Huber

Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> writes: > the trouble is that if everyone has a cellphone and thus the local > line never gets used, you have to add $30 to the price of dsl since > that's how much a local line will run you -mike Check for the no long distance, local metered plans. I had this (before I canceled my phone line) and it cost $10 from verizon. After the excessive taxes and fees, it came out to around $16, if I recall. All outgoing calls cost money, so you really only want to do this if you don't use the phone for voice... -- Josh Huber

May 19, 2004

RE: [Wlug] Comcast experiences ?

by Hemstreet, Jeffrey L (Jeffrey)

I have & like Charter... I had the same MAC problem 0->O when they typed it in. I've had less than 6 outages at an average of about day each time over the past 3 years. Tech support can take forever to get to since you call into level 1 and they ask the "is your PC plugged into the modem?" questions, but the second-level support is pretty good. Speed is good. 768K base service, but some people are getting 1.5-2 in areas that aren't limited. (My loop is pretty busy, but I still get a good connection.) jeff -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Eric Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:07 AM To: 'Worcester Linux Users Group' Subject: RE: [Wlug] Comcast experiences ? Charter's not too bad here...Sometimes their tech support is bad (but who's isn't) eg took me a week or 2 to convice them that they wrote my MAC for my bridge wrong, and that was why I couldn't get on the net...As far as speed I think it's fine. Agree? Disagree? -----Original Message----- From: Mike Frysinger [mailto:vapier@gentoo.org] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 3:06 AM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Comcast experiences ? err, replace every occurence of 'comcast' with 'charter' :) -mike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 19, 2004

RE: [Wlug] Charter experiences? -was:Comcast experiences ?

by Martin, Eric

Um...what package did you have with Verizon / Charter? Last I checked, verizon was 49.99, and Charter only adds on $35 to your cable bill if you already have any form of cable (or it costs an extra 10 or 11 if you don't)...Granted those are base rates, but...'sides, buy the bridge, you can get one from Best Buy for $60 or less if you get rebates.... Eric -----Original Message----- From: Baris Hasdemir [mailto:penguen@hasdemir.com] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 10:22 AM To: WLUG Subject: Re: [Wlug] Charter experiences? -was:Comcast experiences ? On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 03:04, Mike Frysinger wrote: > i was talking with a guy who claimed comcast provided great cable > service in > worcester and was basically way better than anything dsl could offer (i use > speakeasy myself and love it). seeing as how he is a non-computer person, i > took his opinion with a large grain of salt ... > > it did get me wondering though as ive never used comcast in worcester > myself, > just in holden (and it sucked a lot), how have other people got along with > comcast here ? looking for the standard fare, speeds/tech support/response > times/etc... > -mike > I did not like Charter's service very much when I switched to it from Verizon DSL. Charter charges ~10 dollars more than Verizon DSL including a rent for cable modem but they gave us 2Mbits (I Think they're now giving 3Mbits) Besides the higher bandwidth, most of the time especially in the evenings I experienced latencies, if it's the right word to use. For example, I click on an ordinary link, wait for sometime and *then* it finally starts loading which is fast, of course. So I got back to Verizon again. I have 1.5Mbits and I'm fine enough. Regarding the customer support, all I can say is they did not refund anything when I canceled my subscription in 20 days. Neither the installation fee(although I had to do it myself, since there was no working version of windows) nor usage fee. baris _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 19, 2004

RE: [Wlug] Comcast experiences ?

by Martin, Eric

Charter's not too bad here...Sometimes their tech support is bad (but who's isn't) eg took me a week or 2 to convice them that they wrote my MAC for my bridge wrong, and that was why I couldn't get on the net...As far as speed I think it's fine. Agree? Disagree? -----Original Message----- From: Mike Frysinger [mailto:vapier@gentoo.org] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 3:06 AM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Comcast experiences ? err, replace every occurence of 'comcast' with 'charter' :) -mike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 19, 2004