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Re: [Wlug] wall messages on Gentoo

by Josh Huber

"Karl Hiramoto" <karl(a)hiramoto.org> writes: > I've had the wall behavior before broadcasting to allusers work > before on other distro's (slackware & redhat) but now on gentoo it > seems to be locked down. > > talk works, but instead of "talk user" you need to specify "talk > user@localhost" > > wall works, but you have to be root. > >> Don't know specifically about gentoo, but try the 'write' or 'talk' >> command instead of 'wall', but that'll go only to speified users. >> >> Karl Hiramoto wrote: >> >>> Anyone know how to allow users other than root to wall messages to other >>> logins? >>> >>> wall "test" >>> only displays to other users if doing it from root. >>> >>> Do i need to be in a certain group? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> >>> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 >>> Cell: 508-517-4819 >>> Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ >>> AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> -- >> Dwight A. Ernest, dwight at significant dot com GPG key A6999567 >> Cell: +1-508-523-1416 FAX: +1-978-405-2504 YIM: dwight_ernest >> RHCE #803004293310030 http://significant.com/~dwight/ KA2CNN >> Papa, partner, pilot, net geek, sysadmin, consultant, cohouser. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> -- Josh Huber

March 21, 2004

Re: [Wlug] wall messages on Gentoo

by Karl Hiramoto

I've had the wall behavior before broadcasting to allusers work before on other distro's (slackware & redhat) but now on gentoo it seems to be locked down. talk works, but instead of "talk user" you need to specify "talk user@localhost" wall works, but you have to be root. > Don't know specifically about gentoo, but try the 'write' or 'talk' > command instead of 'wall', but that'll go only to speified users. > > Karl Hiramoto wrote: > >> Anyone know how to allow users other than root to wall messages to other >> logins? >> >> wall "test" >> only displays to other users if doing it from root. >> >> Do i need to be in a certain group? >> >> >> -- >> Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> >> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 >> Cell: 508-517-4819 >> Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ >> AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- > Dwight A. Ernest, dwight at significant dot com GPG key A6999567 > Cell: +1-508-523-1416 FAX: +1-978-405-2504 YIM: dwight_ernest > RHCE #803004293310030 http://significant.com/~dwight/ KA2CNN > Papa, partner, pilot, net geek, sysadmin, consultant, cohouser. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto

March 21, 2004

Re: [Wlug] wall messages on Gentoo

by Dwight A. Ernest

Don't know specifically about gentoo, but try the 'write' or 'talk' command instead of 'wall', but that'll go only to speified users. Karl Hiramoto wrote: > Anyone know how to allow users other than root to wall messages to other > logins? > > wall "test" > only displays to other users if doing it from root. > > Do i need to be in a certain group? > > > -- > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > Cell: 508-517-4819 > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Dwight A. Ernest, dwight at significant dot com GPG key A6999567 Cell: +1-508-523-1416 FAX: +1-978-405-2504 YIM: dwight_ernest RHCE #803004293310030 http://significant.com/~dwight/ KA2CNN Papa, partner, pilot, net geek, sysadmin, consultant, cohouser.

March 21, 2004

wall messages on Gentoo

by Karl Hiramoto

Anyone know how to allow users other than root to wall messages to other logins? wall "test" only displays to other users if doing it from root. Do i need to be in a certain group? -- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto

March 21, 2004

Re: Instant Messaging Software

by Bob George

Keller, Tim wrote: >[...] >I only wish that Trillian supported Jabber. I deployed a Jabber server and >it worked, but the clients for windows were so crummy that nobody used it. > > One of Trillian's biggest strengths (and from the corporate perspective, perhaps weakness) is the ability to create and manage IM accounts with AIM, Yahoo! etc. If you're after a Jabber-only capability (i.e. internal jabber server), I've found Exodus and PSI to be excellent clients, available on Windows and X. PSI supports SSL, which is nice for off-site users. - Bob

March 20, 2004

Salvage flashdisk

by Joel Desrochers

Tim, Here is one software I have heard was good, but have never used, Photorecovery. It is offered for XP or Mac OS 10. The demo is free. http://www.lc-tech.com/photorecovery.htm If you try it and it works, please let me know. Joel Desrochers Message: 6 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:24:37 -0500 From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> Subject: [Wlug] Salvage flashdisk To: "'wlug(a)wlug.org'" <wlug(a)wlug.org> Message-ID: <CAC3BCBB443DEC439198F230B4BCC7E9035B1A9F(a)exna6-ftsaa.mis.stratus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I've got a 32mb flash disk that's gone bad. Ironically it went bad before I had a chance to pull the pictures off of it. I can't open it with fdisk nor will doing a dd if=/dev/sda of=image_of_flash_disk will work. Anybody got any good ideas or know of utilities that might be capable of salvaging the data? Thanks, Tim. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/

March 19, 2004

Re: [wlug] Re: Instant Messaging Software

by Chuck Homic

On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 04:16:20PM -0500, Keller, Tim wrote: > I only wish that Trillian supported Jabber. I deployed a Jabber server and > it worked, but the clients for windows were so crummy that nobody used it. Trillian supports IRC, and an IRC server is really easy to set up. I did this at work, and no one used it, either. :) -Chuck

March 19, 2004

RE: [wlug] Re: Instant Messaging Software

by Keller, Tim

The biggest problem usually isn't the messaging client itself, secure or insecure. The biggest problem is the users who don't understand the technology under it. Inside of Stratus we've done a lot of education to get users to understand that IM is a completely insecure medium and that no business information is to be transmitted over it. Once you explain to Suzy accountant that when she pasts the financials into the IM window and send it to her coworker that they shoot out the door, zip half way across the country and then come back and anybody in between can read them, it suddenly hits home... I only wish that Trillian supported Jabber. I deployed a Jabber server and it worked, but the clients for windows were so crummy that nobody used it. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Bob George [mailto:mailings02@ttlexceeded.com] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 2:30 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Re: Instant Messaging Software Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > [...] > I work at a large company in Natick that has recently decided to > disallow instant messaging clients from being used on corporate PC's. If the policy is "no instant messaging clients", I don't think I'd load jabber, then argue the finer points. Especially if disciplinary action is noted for violations. If nothing else, make the case for an INTERNAL server, but GET APPROVAL before using it. Jabber has much to recommend it for such a server. > They sight a concern that it is an insecure network link to the outside > world that could allow hackers, worms, trojans, viruses, etc ... into > the otherwise protected network. That's a commonly cited concern, and not unwarranted. > [...] What does affect my team is the ability to easily > communicate with each other on a "live" or instant platform within the > company firewall (we have no interest really to communicate outside the > firewall yet). I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction > of an Open Source alternative to an instant messaging platform? For > starters I'm just looking for software to run on a server (either Linux > or Doze) and the associated clients to use on primarily XP or 2000 desktops. Again, I'd get approval first, but IRC can do much of what you want. There are plenty of Win clients and servers for it. - Bob _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 19, 2004

Re: Instant Messaging Software

by Bob George

Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > [...] > I work at a large company in Natick that has recently decided to > disallow instant messaging clients from being used on corporate PC's. If the policy is "no instant messaging clients", I don't think I'd load jabber, then argue the finer points. Especially if disciplinary action is noted for violations. If nothing else, make the case for an INTERNAL server, but GET APPROVAL before using it. Jabber has much to recommend it for such a server. > They sight a concern that it is an insecure network link to the outside > world that could allow hackers, worms, trojans, viruses, etc ... into > the otherwise protected network. That's a commonly cited concern, and not unwarranted. > [...] What does affect my team is the ability to easily > communicate with each other on a "live" or instant platform within the > company firewall (we have no interest really to communicate outside the > firewall yet). I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction > of an Open Source alternative to an instant messaging platform? For > starters I'm just looking for software to run on a server (either Linux > or Doze) and the associated clients to use on primarily XP or 2000 desktops. Again, I'd get approval first, but IRC can do much of what you want. There are plenty of Win clients and servers for it. - Bob

March 19, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Instant Messaging Software

by Theo Van Dinter

On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 02:01:09PM -0500, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > I don't think IM is a replace-all for phones or in-person meetings, > but it does better handle/allow a lot of communications in a more > efficient manner. IMHO. Oh, I forgot one... It's easier for me to encrypt my IM sessions than it is to encrypt my phone conversations. If you're paranoid, as I am(*), this is important. * - As someone you routinely captures network traffic at work, and who watches other people in the group addicted to running AIMsniff off the firewall port ... -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch?" - W.C. Fields

March 19, 2004