December 2004 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] Trouble with SATA DVD burner

by Charles R. Anderson

On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 12:06:49PM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote: > Well, I got it working with SuSE's kernel version 2.6.5-7.111.19-smp, but that > doesn't explain to me why I can't make it work with a stock 2.6.10 kernel. > Now I'm hitting the "kernel madness" which broke CD/DVD burning for all but > the root user. I believe it was 2.6.8+ that changed the way cd burning (SCSI generic or ATAPI SG_IO) support worked. This was done to fix some security issues where a user could e.g. reflash the firmware on your drives, rendering them toasters. There is now some SCSI command filtering done to prevent such things. Fedora has pretty much abandoned ide-scsi and has switched instead to the SG_IO API directly on the underlying ATAPI device. This allows applications to send SCSI Generic commands by using the ATAPI device instead of the SG device which required the ide-scsi hack for ATAPI devices. I know this change broke a lot of things, mainly people's expectations on which device to use with cdrecord et al. It is now as simple as: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc or similar.

Dec. 28, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Trouble with SATA DVD burner

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 28 December 2004 12:47 am, Andy Stewart wrote: > HI all, > > I'm having problems with an SATA DVD burner (Plextor 712). I can't get > Linux to see it. Any advice you might offer would be appreciated. Well, I got it working with SuSE's kernel version 2.6.5-7.111.19-smp, but that doesn't explain to me why I can't make it work with a stock 2.6.10 kernel. Now I'm hitting the "kernel madness" which broke CD/DVD burning for all but the root user. I also checked my firware revs, all of which are up to date. I'll still take any advice about why 2.6.10 didn't work for me. Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQFB0ZKwHl0iXDssISsRAjKtAJdZnVZUIpo4CtW/0mIGCqdmQ71PAJ9Nxa2U lQ2plaRVtgIS+ErBFsdOJA== =K7D5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 28, 2004

Proliant 1600 for sale

by Mike Leo

I go back and forth on this, but I have a Compaq Proliant 1600, dual 450 (or 500, i forget), with 6 18gig drives, plus an F1 full of 18gig drives, plus some spares. I can also put in a DLT drive. It runs fine, but is loud. I go back and forth with wanting to sell it 'cause I didn't think anyone would be interested. But is anyone? $600 for the whole shabang. I can get more specific specs once I get home. I can bring it to a lug meeting, or can arrange shipping. Let me know... Mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com

Dec. 28, 2004

Looking for Wine and Winelib experiences

by Ira Krakow

Hello all, I'm co-authoring a book on Wine and Winelib, scheduled to be published by Prentice Hall this summer. I'm looking for "war stories" - any experiences you have had with running Wine and/or porting Windows applications to Linux using Winelib. Please email me (ikrakow_1999(a)yahoo.com) or call (781-938-0550). Thanks. Sincerely, Ira Krakow

Dec. 28, 2004

Trouble with SATA DVD burner

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI all, I'm having problems with an SATA DVD burner (Plextor 712). I can't get Linux to see it. Any advice you might offer would be appreciated. Kernel 2.6.10 x86_64 The (I think) salient portion of /var/log/messages is shown below. I get this when I "modprobe sata_via": amdtux kernel: libata version 1.10 loaded. amdtux kernel: sata_via version 1.0 amdtux kernel: sata_via(0000:00:0f.0): routed to hard irq line 10 amdtux kernel: ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xB800 ctl 0xBC02 bmdma 0xC800 irq 20 amdtux kernel: ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xC000 ctl 0xC402 bmdma 0xC808 irq 20 amdtux kernel: ata1: dev 0 cfg 49:0f00 82:0000 83:0000 84:0000 85:0000 86:0000 87:0000 88:0407 amdtux kernel: ata1: dev 0 ATAPI, max UDMA/33 amdtux kernel: ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/33 amdtux kernel: scsi3 : sata_via amdtux kernel: ata2: no device found (phy stat 00000000) amdtux kernel: scsi4 : sata_via The chipset is VIA VT8237. The rest of the system: MB = MSI K8T Master2 FAR (2xOpteron 244) adaptec 29160 with 1 scsi disk atapi dvdrom sata plextor 712 crappy pci-based sound card ATI Radeon 7500 onboard Gb ethernet onboard usb Another data point: I booted KNOPPIX V3.6 (kernel 2.6.7), in the hope that its generally good hardware detection might make this device magically work. It notices the drive quite nicely and tries to make it available as "hde" (as seen in dmesg). However, once KNOPPIX comes up, I cannot successfully do anything with the drive. I'll burn a KNOPPIX V3.next CD and try this to see if the result changes (since that CD will probably have a more recent kernel). This gives me some hope that this device *might* work with Linux. FYI: When buying HW to build this system, I ordered the Plextor 712 ATAPI version, figuring I'd have trouble like this with SATA. The vendor shipped me the SATA drive at the cheaper ATAPI price...go figure. Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB0PNqHl0iXDssISsRAu8KAJ96wviwjcevfQqRMfoy4fhldIP8OACfWdfQ zlGuL+Wtv9B0iej751ZqPLo= =gRGH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 28, 2004

Re: [Wlug] cheap Compaq at Staples

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 01:30:44PM -0500, Michelle Vadeboncoeur wrote: > On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Chuck Haines wrote: > > CH>Any link for this or is this a in-store only? My dad is looking for a > CH>new desktop for cheap and doesn't need much and this would be perfect > CH>for him. > > http://instorespecials.staples.com/ > > I looked at the Dec. 19 - Dec. 24 circulars ("Current Circular") for both > Worcester MA (storeid=2401091) and Boston MA (storeID=2421006), and there > are no Compaq products listed in the weekly flyer. > > I also checked with http://www.salescircular.com/ma.shtml , and I didn't > find any computer system selling for $199.94 this week in MA among the > stores they follow (store list is here: > http://www.salescircular.com/storedtl.html ). > > I also checked with http://www.saleshound.com/saleshound/store_list.asp > and searched for "Compaq" at stores 50 miles from Boston, MA, and there > were no results. > > Is the $199.94 Compaq Presario listed in the Boston Globe a special for a > particular store, or is it maybe in next week's flyers? > > -- > --==*==-- --==*==-- Michelle R. Vadeboncoeur --==*==-- --==*==-- > mrv(a)kluge.net: http://www.kluge.net/~mrv/ I think it was in a 12/20/4 flyer. But, they were all sold out in the first day. Bill

Dec. 26, 2004

Re: [Wlug] cheap Compaq at Staples

by Bill Mills-Curran

After waiting long enough to decide that, yes, I want to buy this, I discovered they were all sold out. :-( Bill On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 11:13:29AM -0500, Chuck Haines wrote: > Any link for this or is this a in-store only? My dad is looking for a > new desktop for cheap and doesn't need much and this would be perfect > for him. > > CH > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:29:45 -0500, Bill Mills-Curran > <bill(a)mills-curran.net> wrote: > > Staples has a low-priced machine advertised in the Globe: $199.94 for > > a Compaq Presario with an AMD Sempron processor. Any idea how this > > might work with Linux? I picked up a cheap Compaq at Walmart a year > > ago, and I returned it because it was such a dog. > > > > TIA, > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > -- > Chuck Haines > chaines(a)gmail.com > ------------------------------------------- > Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity > TKE-ZM Web Coordinator > ECE Systems Administrator > ------------------------------------------- > AIM: CyberGrex > YIM: CyberGrex_27 > ICQ: 3707881 > ------------------------------------------- > GPG Fingerprint: 303A AB50 4EA9 70ED 2E30 2368 C9CD CCB5 4BD7 0989 > GPG Key: http://www.maxslack.com/gpgkey.txt > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Dec. 26, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Sun's x86 Strategy

by Brian J. Conway

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Gary Hanley wrote: > Hello all. > > I came across this article today that some might find interesting. It touches > on Sun's disadvantage with regard to Solaris development costs compared to > Linux and how it plans to deal with that, as well as the probable demise of > UltraSparc. > > http://www.techuser.net/sunx86.html An interesting read, but people have been predicting "the death of Sparc" every year for the past 10 years (and let's not forget "this is the year of Linux on the everyman's desktop"). I'll believe both when I see them. ;) Brian J. Conway bconway(at)alum.wpi.edu "LINUX is obsolete" - Andrew S. Tanenbaum, creator of Minix - Jan 29, 1992

Dec. 23, 2004

Sun's x86 Strategy

by Gary Hanley

Hello all. I came across this article today that some might find interesting. It touches on Sun's disadvantage with regard to Solaris development costs compared to Linux and how it plans to deal with that, as well as the probable demise of UltraSparc. http://www.techuser.net/sunx86.html -- Gary

Dec. 23, 2004

Re: [Wlug] cheap Compaq at Staples

by Michelle Vadeboncoeur

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Chuck Haines wrote: CH>Any link for this or is this a in-store only? My dad is looking for a CH>new desktop for cheap and doesn't need much and this would be perfect CH>for him. http://instorespecials.staples.com/ I looked at the Dec. 19 - Dec. 24 circulars ("Current Circular") for both Worcester MA (storeid=2401091) and Boston MA (storeID=2421006), and there are no Compaq products listed in the weekly flyer. I also checked with http://www.salescircular.com/ma.shtml , and I didn't find any computer system selling for $199.94 this week in MA among the stores they follow (store list is here: http://www.salescircular.com/storedtl.html ). I also checked with http://www.saleshound.com/saleshound/store_list.asp and searched for "Compaq" at stores 50 miles from Boston, MA, and there were no results. Is the $199.94 Compaq Presario listed in the Boston Globe a special for a particular store, or is it maybe in next week's flyers? -- --==*==-- --==*==-- Michelle R. Vadeboncoeur --==*==-- --==*==-- mrv(a)kluge.net: http://www.kluge.net/~mrv/

Dec. 23, 2004