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Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 12, Issue 11
by Arturo
Cool,
If there are any left I would love g-mail account as well!
Arturo
On 10/14/04 10:43 AM, "wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org"
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> 1. Re: gmail invites (Brett Russ)
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> 3. RE: gmail invites (Don Peterson)
> 4. Re: gmail invites (Casey Rankin)
> 5. Re: gmail invites (Casey Rankin)
> 6. RE: NFS question (Don Peterson)
> 7. mountng a pen drive (usb) (Walt Sawyer)
> 8. RE: NFS question (Jeff Moyer)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 07:46:08 -0400
> From: Brett Russ <icycle(a)charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
> Message-ID: <416E6700.5080302(a)charter.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
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> Micheal Bonner wrote:
>
>> I will Take one if you are handing them out please ... I would love to
>> have one .. thanks. just Email what I need to do personal .. if not ..
>> then thank you anyway
>
> Sent!
> BR
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:48:54 -0400
> From: "JONATHAN BEALL" <joncbeall(a)hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:13:18 -0400
> From: "Don Peterson" <dpeterson(a)sterilite.com>
> Subject: RE: [Wlug] gmail invites
> To: "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
> Message-ID:
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> I would love one too if you guys have any left.
> Thanx in advance...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On
> Behalf Of Brett Russ
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:49 PM
> To: Worcester Linux Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
>
> Minkov, Ross wrote:
>
>> I could use one gmail invite... If there are any left...?
>>
>>
>>
> Sent!
> BR
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:20:43 -0400
> From: Casey Rankin <caseyrankin(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
> Message-ID: <cd5bf44b041014062073122d74(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> sent.
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:48:54 -0400, JONATHAN BEALL
> <joncbeall(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> if anyone has an extra it would be greatly appreciated, hotmail is killing
>> me lately.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Jonathan Beall
>>
>>
>>> From: Micheal Bonner <BiggDaddyCool(a)peoplepc.com>
>>> Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
>>> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
>>> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 06:03:03 -0400
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Minkov, Ross wrote:
>>>
>>>> I could use one gmail invite... If there are any left...?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ross
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org
>>>> [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Chuck Haines
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 7:28 PM
>>>> To: Worcester Linux Users Group
>>>> Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yea, I got 8 of them.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:42:12 -0400, Mike Frysinger
>>>> <vapier(a)gentoo.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday 15 September 2004 06:35 pm, Brett Russ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have some to distribute. FCFS, serious inquiries only :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> yeah, i got 6 spare ones too
>>>>> -mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>> I will Take one if you are handing them out please ... I would love
>>>> to have one .. thanks. just Email what I need to do personal .. if
>>>> not .. then thank you anyway
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:21:27 -0400
> From: Casey Rankin <caseyrankin(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
> Message-ID: <cd5bf44b041014062112a4e152(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> sent.
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:13:18 -0400, Don Peterson
> <dpeterson(a)sterilite.com> wrote:
>> I would love one too if you guys have any left.
>> Thanx in advance...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On
>> Behalf Of Brett Russ
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:49 PM
>> To: Worcester Linux Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
>>
>> Minkov, Ross wrote:
>>
>>> I could use one gmail invite... If there are any left...?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Sent!
>> BR
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:24:49 -0400
> From: "Don Peterson" <dpeterson(a)sterilite.com>
> Subject: RE: [Wlug] NFS question
> To: <jmoyer(a)redhat.com>, "Worcester Linux Users Group"
> <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
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> Jeff,
> Thanx for the continued feedback and suggestions, RHCM sounds cool
> but, I've read through some of the bug tracks on it and it sounds like
> there are some bad corruption problems when using it. It also sounds
> like there can be a considerable lag in the time it takes for the shares
> to come up on the secondary server. Are there many people using this in
> a production environment?
> Thanx,
> Don
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Moyer
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:48 PM
> To: Worcester Linux Users Group
> Subject: RE: [Wlug] NFS question
>
> ==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] NFS question; "John Stoffel"
> <stoffel(a)lucent.com> adds:
>
> Don> Thanx for the info John. Unfortunately I can't use the Red Hat
> Don> GFS, it requires v3.0 and we cannot upgrade to that yet.
>
> stoffel> Since it's open source, can't you get it from
> stoffel> http://sources.redhat.com/cluster/gfs/ and see if it will
> stoffel> install on your systems?
>
> Sounds like he wants a supported solution.
>
> Don> I have been pushing for it, but Oracle won't give me an definite
> Don> answer as to whether their apps are certified for RH 3.0.
>
> stoffel> That's silly, but very understandable. From looking at your
> stoffel> corp website, I can see why you're interested in only deploying
>
> stoffel> supportable systems, esp in such a production environment.
>
> Don> We could go with Veritas' Storage Foundation for Oracle RAC, but
> Don> that would require considerable change, and no one here knows the
> software.
> Don> For the time being I'll probably have to go with a NAS device and
> Don> make it as redundant as possible.
>
> stoffel> I know Veritas. :] And I'm looking for a job. :] Well, I know
>
> stoffel> VxVM/VxFS quite well and I've been exposed to their Clustering
> stoffel> software as well. Good stuff all around.
>
> stoffel> But that doesn't solve the question here, which is how to get a
>
> stoffel> good reliable NFS file storage (would the storage be on the
> stoffel> SAN, or local to the server) for a good price.
>
> stoffel> Here's a thought, but a pair of cheap 2U servers and install
> stoffel> RHEL 3.0 along with the GFS filesystem and clustering software.
>
> stoffel> Export via NFS to the other servers. If one node goes down,
> stoffel> you've got a backup and failover. And it would give you
> stoffel> exposure/experience with RHEL 3.0, GFS and clustering so you
> stoffel> would be working to migrate the Oracle instances to the same
> stoffel> type of setup down the road.
>
> If you only need to server NFS, then you can do this without GFS. You
> can use GFS, and it will mean that clients can mount from either server,
> but it sounds like overkill for this case. You simply want failover of
> NFS filesystems, and that can be accomplished quite easily with AS 2.1
> and RHCM. In fact, you can probably work this into your existing
> environment without buying any more hardware (and I think without
> purchasing new software licenses, too).
>
> -Jeff
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:55:05 -0400
> From: Walt Sawyer <wsawyer(a)norfolk-county.com>
> Subject: [Wlug] mountng a pen drive (usb)
> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
> Message-ID: <1097762105.2591.9.camel(a)localhost.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> How do I get my SanDisk cruzer mini 256 mb pen drive to mount on my
> Fedora Core 2 laptop?
> Thanks in advance
> Walt
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:09:56 -0400
> From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com>
> Subject: RE: [Wlug] NFS question
> To: "Don Peterson" <dpeterson(a)sterilite.com>
> Cc: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
> Message-ID: <16750.34996.638953.41770(a)segfault.boston.redhat.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> ==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] NFS question; "Don Peterson"
> <dpeterson(a)sterilite.com> adds:
>
> dpeterson> Jeff, Thanx for the continued feedback and suggestions, RHCM
> dpeterson> sounds cool but, I've read through some of the bug tracks on it
> dpeterson> and it sounds like there are some bad corruption problems when
> dpeterson> using it. It also sounds like there can be a considerable lag
> dpeterson> in the time it takes for the shares to come up on the secondary
> dpeterson> server. Are there many people using this in a production
> dpeterson> environment?
>
> Are you certain you are looking at the right product? In bugzilla, query
> Product: Red Hat Enterprise Linux
> Version: 2.1AS
> Component: clumanager
>
> There are no open bugs. You are probably looking at the clustering
> infrastructure related to GFS, which is a very new offerring for Red Hat.
>
> There are at least hundreds of deployments of AS2.1 and clumanager. As for
> the lag, it is, of course, configurable (at least it was last I worked on
> it, several years ago). There are a couple of components to this, of
> course. First, how long does it take to detect a failure, and second, how
> long does it take for application/filesystem recovery. Using a journaled
> filesystem, you will see fairly quick recovery times on that end. To
> simply failover NFS, you won't be looking at too much overhead.
>
> The one hardware component you may need to buy would be a fencing device.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> -Jeff
>
> dpeterson> -----Original Message-----
> From> wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On
> dpeterson> Behalf Of Jeff Moyer
> Sent> Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:48 PM
> To> Worcester Linux Users Group
> Subject> RE: [Wlug] NFS question
>
> ==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] NFS question; "John Stoffel"
>>> stoffel(a)lucent.com> adds:
>
> Don> Thanx for the info John. Unfortunately I can't use the Red Hat GFS,
> Don> it requires v3.0 and we cannot upgrade to that yet.
>
> stoffel> Since it's open source, can't you get it from
> stoffel> http://sources.redhat.com/cluster/gfs/ and see if it will install
> stoffel> on your systems?
>
> dpeterson> Sounds like he wants a supported solution.
>
> Don> I have been pushing for it, but Oracle won't give me an definite
> Don> answer as to whether their apps are certified for RH 3.0.
>
> stoffel> That's silly, but very understandable. From looking at your corp
> stoffel> website, I can see why you're interested in only deploying
>
> stoffel> supportable systems, esp in such a production environment.
>
> Don> We could go with Veritas' Storage Foundation for Oracle RAC, but that
> Don> would require considerable change, and no one here knows the
> dpeterson> software.
> Don> For the time being I'll probably have to go with a NAS device and make
> Don> it as redundant as possible.
>
> stoffel> I know Veritas. :] And I'm looking for a job. :] Well, I know
>
> stoffel> VxVM/VxFS quite well and I've been exposed to their Clustering
> stoffel> software as well. Good stuff all around.
>
> stoffel> But that doesn't solve the question here, which is how to get a
>
> stoffel> good reliable NFS file storage (would the storage be on the SAN,
> stoffel> or local to the server) for a good price.
>
> stoffel> Here's a thought, but a pair of cheap 2U servers and install RHEL
> stoffel> 3.0 along with the GFS filesystem and clustering software.
>
> stoffel> Export via NFS to the other servers. If one node goes down,
> stoffel> you've got a backup and failover. And it would give you
> stoffel> exposure/experience with RHEL 3.0, GFS and clustering so you would
> stoffel> be working to migrate the Oracle instances to the same type of
> stoffel> setup down the road.
>
> dpeterson> If you only need to server NFS, then you can do this without
> dpeterson> GFS. You can use GFS, and it will mean that clients can mount
> dpeterson> from either server, but it sounds like overkill for this case.
> dpeterson> You simply want failover of NFS filesystems, and that can be
> dpeterson> accomplished quite easily with AS 2.1 and RHCM. In fact, you
> dpeterson> can probably work this into your existing environment without
> dpeterson> buying any more hardware (and I think without purchasing new
> dpeterson> software licenses, too).
>
> dpeterson> -Jeff _______________________________________________ Wlug
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> http> //mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug
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Oct. 14, 2004
Re: Knoppix install question
by Patrick Sawyer
Jumped the gun. Found it
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:17:55 -0400, Patrick Sawyer
<patricksawyer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Howdy,
> Thanks to everyone who helped with the linux install at the Worcester
> Computer Co Op. We got alot done. Im working on the "problem children"
> right now.
>
> what was the process for running the install script in knoppix?
>
> p
>
Oct. 14, 2004
Knoppix install question
by Patrick Sawyer
Howdy,
Thanks to everyone who helped with the linux install at the Worcester
Computer Co Op. We got alot done. Im working on the "problem children"
right now.
what was the process for running the install script in knoppix?
p
Oct. 14, 2004
Re: [Wlug] mounting a pen drive (usb)
by Gregory Avedissian
SuSE 9.1 will automatically mount and unmount a pen drive, floppy disk or
cd. I haven't yet figured out how it does that.
Greg
Ryan Caron wrote:
> Assuming you do not have any other usb devices hooked up to your laptop,
> adding the following line to your /etc/fstab will allow you to mount and
> use your pen drive as a non-root user:
>
> /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 vfat user,noauto,exec 0 0
>
> Using this method, you will have to type "mount /mnt/sda1" when you insert
> it and "umount /mnt/sda1" when you are done.
>
> I cannot stress how important it is to unmount! Failure to do so will
> either leave your pen drive without the changes you made or with data
> corruption (I know this from experience)
>
> If anybody knows of a way for linux to mount automatically do this I am
> all ears (switching the noauto parameter to auto doesn't do the trick).
>
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Caron
>
>
>
>>Message: 7
>>Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:55:05 -0400
>>From: Walt Sawyer <wsawyer(a)norfolk-county.com>
>>Subject: [Wlug] mountng a pen drive (usb)
>>To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
>>Message-ID: <1097762105.2591.9.camel(a)localhost.localdomain>
>>Content-Type: text/plain
>>
>>How do I get my SanDisk cruzer mini 256 mb pen drive to mount on my
>>Fedora Core 2 laptop?
>>Thanks in advance
>>Walt
>
>
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Oct. 14, 2004
Re: [Wlug] mounting a pen drive (usb)
by Ryan Caron
Assuming you do not have any other usb devices hooked up to your laptop,
adding the following line to your /etc/fstab will allow you to mount and
use your pen drive as a non-root user:
/dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 vfat user,noauto,exec 0 0
Using this method, you will have to type "mount /mnt/sda1" when you insert
it and "umount /mnt/sda1" when you are done.
I cannot stress how important it is to unmount! Failure to do so will
either leave your pen drive without the changes you made or with data
corruption (I know this from experience)
If anybody knows of a way for linux to mount automatically do this I am
all ears (switching the noauto parameter to auto doesn't do the trick).
Sincerely,
Ryan Caron
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:55:05 -0400
> From: Walt Sawyer <wsawyer(a)norfolk-county.com>
> Subject: [Wlug] mountng a pen drive (usb)
> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
> Message-ID: <1097762105.2591.9.camel(a)localhost.localdomain>
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> How do I get my SanDisk cruzer mini 256 mb pen drive to mount on my
> Fedora Core 2 laptop?
> Thanks in advance
> Walt
Oct. 14, 2004
Re: [Wlug] mountng a pen drive (usb)
by Gina Minks
=
How do I get my SanDisk cruzer mini 256 mb pen drive to mount on my
Fedora Core 2 laptop?
Check to see if the pen has already been recognized by hotplug by checking for an entry in /etc/fstab
If there is not an entry there, check to see if the OS recognizes the pen. Lots of places to check..
cat /etc/proc/scsi/scsi
you should see:
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
Vendor: SanDisk Model: Cruzer Mini Rev: 0.1
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
or look for it in dmesg:
dmesg | grep San
Vendor: SanDisk Model: Cruzer Mini Rev: 0.1
or in /etc/sysconfig/hwconf:
grep San hwconf
desc: "SanDisk Corporation Cruzer Mini"
usbmfr: SanDisk Corporation
desc: "Sandisk Cruzer Mini"
If the OS recognizes the pen, most likely updfstab does not have an entry for it. For RH9, entries for updfstab are in /etc/updfstab.conf.default
This is the file hotplug uses to know what to write to the fstab file so you can mount the pen.
I added an entry to the "flash" stanza:
device flash {
partition 1
match hd CompactFlash
match hd ImageMate
match hd SanDisk
match hd "USB Drive"
Once you add that, look in the fstab file to see if hotplug worked.
You will still have to mount it, it should show up as /mnt/flash
-Gina
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RE: [Wlug] NFS question
by Jeff Moyer
==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] NFS question; "Don Peterson" <dpeterson(a)sterilite.com> adds:
dpeterson> Jeff, Thanx for the continued feedback and suggestions, RHCM
dpeterson> sounds cool but, I've read through some of the bug tracks on it
dpeterson> and it sounds like there are some bad corruption problems when
dpeterson> using it. It also sounds like there can be a considerable lag
dpeterson> in the time it takes for the shares to come up on the secondary
dpeterson> server. Are there many people using this in a production
dpeterson> environment?
Are you certain you are looking at the right product? In bugzilla, query
Product: Red Hat Enterprise Linux
Version: 2.1AS
Component: clumanager
There are no open bugs. You are probably looking at the clustering
infrastructure related to GFS, which is a very new offerring for Red Hat.
There are at least hundreds of deployments of AS2.1 and clumanager. As for
the lag, it is, of course, configurable (at least it was last I worked on
it, several years ago). There are a couple of components to this, of
course. First, how long does it take to detect a failure, and second, how
long does it take for application/filesystem recovery. Using a journaled
filesystem, you will see fairly quick recovery times on that end. To
simply failover NFS, you won't be looking at too much overhead.
The one hardware component you may need to buy would be a fencing device.
Hope this helps.
-Jeff
dpeterson> -----Original Message-----
From> wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On
dpeterson> Behalf Of Jeff Moyer
Sent> Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:48 PM
To> Worcester Linux Users Group
Subject> RE: [Wlug] NFS question
==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] NFS question; "John Stoffel"
>> stoffel(a)lucent.com> adds:
Don> Thanx for the info John. Unfortunately I can't use the Red Hat GFS,
Don> it requires v3.0 and we cannot upgrade to that yet.
stoffel> Since it's open source, can't you get it from
stoffel> http://sources.redhat.com/cluster/gfs/ and see if it will install
stoffel> on your systems?
dpeterson> Sounds like he wants a supported solution.
Don> I have been pushing for it, but Oracle won't give me an definite
Don> answer as to whether their apps are certified for RH 3.0.
stoffel> That's silly, but very understandable. From looking at your corp
stoffel> website, I can see why you're interested in only deploying
stoffel> supportable systems, esp in such a production environment.
Don> We could go with Veritas' Storage Foundation for Oracle RAC, but that
Don> would require considerable change, and no one here knows the
dpeterson> software.
Don> For the time being I'll probably have to go with a NAS device and make
Don> it as redundant as possible.
stoffel> I know Veritas. :] And I'm looking for a job. :] Well, I know
stoffel> VxVM/VxFS quite well and I've been exposed to their Clustering
stoffel> software as well. Good stuff all around.
stoffel> But that doesn't solve the question here, which is how to get a
stoffel> good reliable NFS file storage (would the storage be on the SAN,
stoffel> or local to the server) for a good price.
stoffel> Here's a thought, but a pair of cheap 2U servers and install RHEL
stoffel> 3.0 along with the GFS filesystem and clustering software.
stoffel> Export via NFS to the other servers. If one node goes down,
stoffel> you've got a backup and failover. And it would give you
stoffel> exposure/experience with RHEL 3.0, GFS and clustering so you would
stoffel> be working to migrate the Oracle instances to the same type of
stoffel> setup down the road.
dpeterson> If you only need to server NFS, then you can do this without
dpeterson> GFS. You can use GFS, and it will mean that clients can mount
dpeterson> from either server, but it sounds like overkill for this case.
dpeterson> You simply want failover of NFS filesystems, and that can be
dpeterson> accomplished quite easily with AS 2.1 and RHCM. In fact, you
dpeterson> can probably work this into your existing environment without
dpeterson> buying any more hardware (and I think without purchasing new
dpeterson> software licenses, too).
dpeterson> -Jeff _______________________________________________ Wlug
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Oct. 14, 2004
mountng a pen drive (usb)
by Walt Sawyer
How do I get my SanDisk cruzer mini 256 mb pen drive to mount on my
Fedora Core 2 laptop?
Thanks in advance
Walt
Oct. 14, 2004
RE: [Wlug] NFS question
by Don Peterson
Jeff,
Thanx for the continued feedback and suggestions, RHCM sounds cool
but, I've read through some of the bug tracks on it and it sounds like
there are some bad corruption problems when using it. It also sounds
like there can be a considerable lag in the time it takes for the shares
to come up on the secondary server. Are there many people using this in
a production environment?
Thanx,
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Moyer
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:48 PM
To: Worcester Linux Users Group
Subject: RE: [Wlug] NFS question
==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] NFS question; "John Stoffel"
<stoffel(a)lucent.com> adds:
Don> Thanx for the info John. Unfortunately I can't use the Red Hat
Don> GFS, it requires v3.0 and we cannot upgrade to that yet.
stoffel> Since it's open source, can't you get it from
stoffel> http://sources.redhat.com/cluster/gfs/ and see if it will
stoffel> install on your systems?
Sounds like he wants a supported solution.
Don> I have been pushing for it, but Oracle won't give me an definite
Don> answer as to whether their apps are certified for RH 3.0.
stoffel> That's silly, but very understandable. From looking at your
stoffel> corp website, I can see why you're interested in only deploying
stoffel> supportable systems, esp in such a production environment.
Don> We could go with Veritas' Storage Foundation for Oracle RAC, but
Don> that would require considerable change, and no one here knows the
software.
Don> For the time being I'll probably have to go with a NAS device and
Don> make it as redundant as possible.
stoffel> I know Veritas. :] And I'm looking for a job. :] Well, I know
stoffel> VxVM/VxFS quite well and I've been exposed to their Clustering
stoffel> software as well. Good stuff all around.
stoffel> But that doesn't solve the question here, which is how to get a
stoffel> good reliable NFS file storage (would the storage be on the
stoffel> SAN, or local to the server) for a good price.
stoffel> Here's a thought, but a pair of cheap 2U servers and install
stoffel> RHEL 3.0 along with the GFS filesystem and clustering software.
stoffel> Export via NFS to the other servers. If one node goes down,
stoffel> you've got a backup and failover. And it would give you
stoffel> exposure/experience with RHEL 3.0, GFS and clustering so you
stoffel> would be working to migrate the Oracle instances to the same
stoffel> type of setup down the road.
If you only need to server NFS, then you can do this without GFS. You
can use GFS, and it will mean that clients can mount from either server,
but it sounds like overkill for this case. You simply want failover of
NFS filesystems, and that can be accomplished quite easily with AS 2.1
and RHCM. In fact, you can probably work this into your existing
environment without buying any more hardware (and I think without
purchasing new software licenses, too).
-Jeff
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Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
by Casey Rankin
sent.
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:13:18 -0400, Don Peterson
<dpeterson(a)sterilite.com> wrote:
> I would love one too if you guys have any left.
> Thanx in advance...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On
> Behalf Of Brett Russ
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:49 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Wlug] gmail invites
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> Minkov, Ross wrote:
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> >I could use one gmail invite... If there are any left...?
> >
> >
> >
> Sent!
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