August 2003 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

RE: [Wlug] AMD systems

by Simoncini, Matthew

Mike, Just called 1-877-4-turing and they said there are no more "system 3.0" systems left and the "system 4.0" systems only come with 256MB RAM. The guy I spoke to wasn't willing to come down on the price at all, but agreed to give me the 512MB RAM for an additional $25. Just wanted to let everyone know what they were willing to offer me. Matthew > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Peckar [mailto:fog@fognet.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:40 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] AMD systems > > > > My 11 yr. old is finishing up his computer camp this week and > the camp is > selling off it's inventory. All systems must be picked up > 8/23 (sat.) in > Burlington, MA at the camp (Hampton Inn next to the Naked Fish off the > Middlesex Tkp 2-3 miles N of the Burlington Mall near Sun campus). > > Contact is mail(a)campturing.com. > > If interested, probably should call asap 1-877-4-turing to > reserve/negotiate > your system. They have many more of the "4's" than the "3's"... > > "system 3.0" -- $600 "system 4.0" -- $600 > Med. Silver tower (w/ window) Med. Black tower > 1.44 floppy 1.44 floppy > 16x dvd-rom 16x dvd rom > 10/100 enet 10/100 enet > Kbd, mouse kbd, mouse > Shuttle AK31A VIA KT266A 4xagp DDR MSI K7N2 Delta-L Nforce2 > (FSB 400) 8xAGP DDR > AMD Athlon XP 1800+ (1.53 GHz 266Mhz) AMD Althon XP > 1800+ (1.53 GHz > 266Mhz) > 2 X 256 DDR266 PC2100 2 X 256 > DDR400 PC3200 > 60GB 7200 ATA100 40GB 7200 ATA100 > AOPEN Gforce2 MX400 64mb 4xAGP MSI GFORCE4 > MX440 64mb 8xAGP TV > CTX 17" .27mm 1280x1024 MGC 17" .27mm 1280x1024 > 56k v.90 FAX w/ Voice > > Upgrades: > Cyber Acoustics 2.1 ($20) 2 x 256 - 512MB DDR400 > PC3200 ($60) > Cd-RW ($65) > 40GB+80GB=120GB 7200 > ATA133 (-40GB 7200 ATA100)($105) > DVD-RW ($220) 56k v.90 FAX w/ > Voice ($20) > > Firewire ($25) Cd-RW ($65) > Win xp home ($95) DVD-RW ($220) > Win xp pro ($145) Firewire ($25) > Win xp > home ($95) > Win xp > pro ($145) > > Do say you're a friend of "Charlie's Dad" and that should be > good for better > discounts. > Don't reply to me - I'm too busy in the next week or so to > provide timely > replies > Also, do let me know if you got a good deal... > > Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 22, 2003

AMD systems

by Mike Peckar

My 11 yr. old is finishing up his computer camp this week and the camp is selling off it's inventory. All systems must be picked up 8/23 (sat.) in Burlington, MA at the camp (Hampton Inn next to the Naked Fish off the Middlesex Tkp 2-3 miles N of the Burlington Mall near Sun campus). Contact is mail(a)campturing.com. If interested, probably should call asap 1-877-4-turing to reserve/negotiate your system. They have many more of the "4's" than the "3's"... "system 3.0" -- $600 "system 4.0" -- $600 Med. Silver tower (w/ window) Med. Black tower 1.44 floppy 1.44 floppy 16x dvd-rom 16x dvd rom 10/100 enet 10/100 enet Kbd, mouse kbd, mouse Shuttle AK31A VIA KT266A 4xagp DDR MSI K7N2 Delta-L Nforce2 (FSB 400) 8xAGP DDR AMD Athlon XP 1800+ (1.53 GHz 266Mhz) AMD Althon XP 1800+ (1.53 GHz 266Mhz) 2 X 256 DDR266 PC2100 2 X 256 DDR400 PC3200 60GB 7200 ATA100 40GB 7200 ATA100 AOPEN Gforce2 MX400 64mb 4xAGP MSI GFORCE4 MX440 64mb 8xAGP TV CTX 17" .27mm 1280x1024 MGC 17" .27mm 1280x1024 56k v.90 FAX w/ Voice Upgrades: Cyber Acoustics 2.1 ($20) 2 x 256 - 512MB DDR400 PC3200 ($60) Cd-RW ($65) 40GB+80GB=120GB 7200 ATA133 (-40GB 7200 ATA100)($105) DVD-RW ($220) 56k v.90 FAX w/ Voice ($20) Firewire ($25) Cd-RW ($65) Win xp home ($95) DVD-RW ($220) Win xp pro ($145) Firewire ($25) Win xp home ($95) Win xp pro ($145) Do say you're a friend of "Charlie's Dad" and that should be good for better discounts. Don't reply to me - I'm too busy in the next week or so to provide timely replies Also, do let me know if you got a good deal... Mike

Aug. 22, 2003

Wyse 520 terminals

by Clint Moyer

If anyone is interested, you can pick up one or more cheap locally: http://arstechnica.infopop.net/OpenTopic/page?a=tpc&s=50009562&f=57909216&m…

Aug. 21, 2003

RE: [Wlug] LTSP meeting slides - VPNs

by gboyce＠badbelly.com

Ugh, a quick apology to anyone who tried to respond to this e-mail. I recently setup a new server at my house and this was the first time I actually sent e-mail on it using pine instead of from evolution. The sending domain in pine is fixed now, and my server should accept e-mail address to that domain just in case. On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 gboyce(a)h00207813f68b.ne.client2.attbi.com wrote: > Kerneltrap.org just posted a couple of articles about the native IPSec and > how it's different from FreeS/WANs. > > http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/748 > > (Hello from a newly joined member of the mail list by the way) > > On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Steve Freitag wrote: > > > Speaking of VPNs... > > > > I just noticed that the September 2003 issue of SysAdmin Magazine, which > > just showed up in my mail box, has and article titled "Build IPSec VPNs > > Using the Linux Kernel 2.6". The author talks about a native IPsec Stack > > being part of the new 2.6 kernel. > > > > The article is not online as far as I know, but here is a link to a web page > > describing the issue. > > http://www.samag.com/articles/2003/0309/ > > > > And for those wondering what other goodies might be in the 2.6 Kernel: > > http://www.kniggit.net/wwol26.html > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf > > > Of Andy Stewart > > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:27 PM > > > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] LTSP meeting slides > > > > > > On Sunday 17 August 2003 11:51 pm, Michael Long wrote: > > > > Andy, thank you for the excellent talk and demo. The tools available to > > > > the linux community are top notch. The LTSP project is a prime example > > > > of that fact. I would like to suggest a talk on the OpenVPN project for > > > > the next meeting. I think it would be really cool if WLUG could sponser > > > > a project this winter that involved setting up a network w/ VPN, > > > > securing it and then attempting to hack it to find its vulnerabilities. > > > > This is probably a naive idea for many reasons...but I think many of us > > > > would be interested in learning the proper way of installing, securing, > > > > and maintaining our networks. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Mike > > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > > > I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed the LTSP meeting! > > > > > > With regard to OpenVPN, this is definitely a possibility. Another type of > > > VPN > > > is FreeS/WAN. Are there others? Can somebody compare/contrast these two? > > > Is anybody sufficiently knowledgeable to give a talk on these topics? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Everybody, > > > > > > > > > > I've just posted the slides from the previous WLUG meeting on the > > > > > > > > website. > > > > > > > > > There are in StarOffice format as well as HTML. From the WLUG home > > > > > > > > page, > > > > > > > > > scroll down and click the link for "Past Meeting Information". > > > > > > > > > > For those of you who were unable to attend, I dare say you missed a > > > good > > > > > meeting. There were alot of questions and people really seemed > > > > > > > > interested in > > > > > > > > > the topic. Fortunately, my client computer booted off of my laptop > > > > > > > > server > > > > > > > > > just like it did when I left home. > > > > > > > > > > I even went out on a limb and attempted to get Doug Waud's computer > > > > > > > > working as > > > > > > > > > a client, since the "live demo" concept seems to be a popular feature > > > > > > > > of WLUG > > > > > > > > > meetings. I hadn't seen Doug's computer previously, but he did bring > > > the > > > > > proper network boot floppy. I "got Doug-ed" the first time (you've > > > > > > > > got to > > > > > > > > > watch your cables and power cords around Doug) by a network cable that > > > > > > > > wasn't > > > > > > > > > entirely plugged in. By the third attempt, his client booted with > > > minor > > > > > video artifacts, probably due to not using the correct XFree86 > > > software. > > > > > > > > > > I'm soliciting ideas for the next meeting, which will be the first > > > > > > > > meeting of > > > > > > > > > the year with the new crop of WPI students. I hope to have a great > > > > > > > > meeting > > > > > > > > > planned so that the WPI students will continue to attend, as they > > > > > > > > constitute > > > > > > > > > a sizeable percentage of the WLUG membership. > > > > > > > > > > See ya later, > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Andy Stewart, Founder > > > > > Worcester Linux Users' Group > > > > > Worcester, MA USA > > > > > http://www.wlug.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wlug mailing list > > > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wlug mailing list > > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > -- > > > Andy Stewart, Founder > > > Worcester Linux Users' Group > > > Worcester, MA USA > > > http://www.wlug.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 21, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Monitoring Web content

by mhughes＠wpidalamar.com

If the load won't kill the machine, an easy way to do this is by setting up a transparent squid proxy. http://www.squid-cache.org/ Then the squid logs will tell you who accessed what fairly easily. Also ... you'll easilly be able to get the full URL's and get an added bonus of some local caching. -Marc On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Malcolm H. Beaulieu wrote: > > I have a few machines connected to the internet via a linux box that runs > NAT. I need to know which websites are being accessed by the internal > machines. IPTraf is installed, so I have the information, my question is > if there is a utility already out there to format it into something more > easily readable? I want to be able to see that machine A accessed site > XYZ.com and how often they did so. I know that ipchains will print out > the current masq'd connections, but has anybody played with the logging > feature? Unfortunately, this machine is highly used, and I can not just > start randomly modifying the ruleset. Any ideas or suggestions would be > greatly appreciated. Thanx! > > -Malcolm > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

Aug. 21, 2003

Monitoring Web content

by Malcolm H. Beaulieu

I have a few machines connected to the internet via a linux box that runs NAT. I need to know which websites are being accessed by the internal machines. IPTraf is installed, so I have the information, my question is if there is a utility already out there to format it into something more easily readable? I want to be able to see that machine A accessed site XYZ.com and how often they did so. I know that ipchains will print out the current masq'd connections, but has anybody played with the logging feature? Unfortunately, this machine is highly used, and I can not just start randomly modifying the ruleset. Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanx! -Malcolm

Aug. 21, 2003

RE: [Wlug] LTSP meeting slides - VPNs

by gboyce＠h00207813f68b.ne.client2.attbi.com

Kerneltrap.org just posted a couple of articles about the native IPSec and how it's different from FreeS/WANs. http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/748 (Hello from a newly joined member of the mail list by the way) On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Steve Freitag wrote: > Speaking of VPNs... > > I just noticed that the September 2003 issue of SysAdmin Magazine, which > just showed up in my mail box, has and article titled "Build IPSec VPNs > Using the Linux Kernel 2.6". The author talks about a native IPsec Stack > being part of the new 2.6 kernel. > > The article is not online as far as I know, but here is a link to a web page > describing the issue. > http://www.samag.com/articles/2003/0309/ > > And for those wondering what other goodies might be in the 2.6 Kernel: > http://www.kniggit.net/wwol26.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf > > Of Andy Stewart > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:27 PM > > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] LTSP meeting slides > > > > On Sunday 17 August 2003 11:51 pm, Michael Long wrote: > > > Andy, thank you for the excellent talk and demo. The tools available to > > > the linux community are top notch. The LTSP project is a prime example > > > of that fact. I would like to suggest a talk on the OpenVPN project for > > > the next meeting. I think it would be really cool if WLUG could sponser > > > a project this winter that involved setting up a network w/ VPN, > > > securing it and then attempting to hack it to find its vulnerabilities. > > > This is probably a naive idea for many reasons...but I think many of us > > > would be interested in learning the proper way of installing, securing, > > > and maintaining our networks. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Mike > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed the LTSP meeting! > > > > With regard to OpenVPN, this is definitely a possibility. Another type of > > VPN > > is FreeS/WAN. Are there others? Can somebody compare/contrast these two? > > Is anybody sufficiently knowledgeable to give a talk on these topics? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Everybody, > > > > > > > > I've just posted the slides from the previous WLUG meeting on the > > > > > > website. > > > > > > > There are in StarOffice format as well as HTML. From the WLUG home > > > > > > page, > > > > > > > scroll down and click the link for "Past Meeting Information". > > > > > > > > For those of you who were unable to attend, I dare say you missed a > > good > > > > meeting. There were alot of questions and people really seemed > > > > > > interested in > > > > > > > the topic. Fortunately, my client computer booted off of my laptop > > > > > > server > > > > > > > just like it did when I left home. > > > > > > > > I even went out on a limb and attempted to get Doug Waud's computer > > > > > > working as > > > > > > > a client, since the "live demo" concept seems to be a popular feature > > > > > > of WLUG > > > > > > > meetings. I hadn't seen Doug's computer previously, but he did bring > > the > > > > proper network boot floppy. I "got Doug-ed" the first time (you've > > > > > > got to > > > > > > > watch your cables and power cords around Doug) by a network cable that > > > > > > wasn't > > > > > > > entirely plugged in. By the third attempt, his client booted with > > minor > > > > video artifacts, probably due to not using the correct XFree86 > > software. > > > > > > > > I'm soliciting ideas for the next meeting, which will be the first > > > > > > meeting of > > > > > > > the year with the new crop of WPI students. I hope to have a great > > > > > > meeting > > > > > > > planned so that the WPI students will continue to attend, as they > > > > > > constitute > > > > > > > a sizeable percentage of the WLUG membership. > > > > > > > > See ya later, > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Andy Stewart, Founder > > > > Worcester Linux Users' Group > > > > Worcester, MA USA > > > > http://www.wlug.org > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wlug mailing list > > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- > > Andy Stewart, Founder > > Worcester Linux Users' Group > > Worcester, MA USA > > http://www.wlug.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 20, 2003

RE: [Wlug] LTSP meeting slides - VPNs

by Steve Freitag

Speaking of VPNs... I just noticed that the September 2003 issue of SysAdmin Magazine, which just showed up in my mail box, has and article titled "Build IPSec VPNs Using the Linux Kernel 2.6". The author talks about a native IPsec Stack being part of the new 2.6 kernel. The article is not online as far as I know, but here is a link to a web page describing the issue. http://www.samag.com/articles/2003/0309/ And for those wondering what other goodies might be in the 2.6 Kernel: http://www.kniggit.net/wwol26.html > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf > Of Andy Stewart > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:27 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] LTSP meeting slides > > On Sunday 17 August 2003 11:51 pm, Michael Long wrote: > > Andy, thank you for the excellent talk and demo. The tools available to > > the linux community are top notch. The LTSP project is a prime example > > of that fact. I would like to suggest a talk on the OpenVPN project for > > the next meeting. I think it would be really cool if WLUG could sponser > > a project this winter that involved setting up a network w/ VPN, > > securing it and then attempting to hack it to find its vulnerabilities. > > This is probably a naive idea for many reasons...but I think many of us > > would be interested in learning the proper way of installing, securing, > > and maintaining our networks. > > > > Cheers, > > Mike > > Hi Mike, > > I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed the LTSP meeting! > > With regard to OpenVPN, this is definitely a possibility. Another type of > VPN > is FreeS/WAN. Are there others? Can somebody compare/contrast these two? > Is anybody sufficiently knowledgeable to give a talk on these topics? > > Thanks, > > Andy > > > > > > > Hi Everybody, > > > > > > I've just posted the slides from the previous WLUG meeting on the > > > > website. > > > > > There are in StarOffice format as well as HTML. From the WLUG home > > > > page, > > > > > scroll down and click the link for "Past Meeting Information". > > > > > > For those of you who were unable to attend, I dare say you missed a > good > > > meeting. There were alot of questions and people really seemed > > > > interested in > > > > > the topic. Fortunately, my client computer booted off of my laptop > > > > server > > > > > just like it did when I left home. > > > > > > I even went out on a limb and attempted to get Doug Waud's computer > > > > working as > > > > > a client, since the "live demo" concept seems to be a popular feature > > > > of WLUG > > > > > meetings. I hadn't seen Doug's computer previously, but he did bring > the > > > proper network boot floppy. I "got Doug-ed" the first time (you've > > > > got to > > > > > watch your cables and power cords around Doug) by a network cable that > > > > wasn't > > > > > entirely plugged in. By the third attempt, his client booted with > minor > > > video artifacts, probably due to not using the correct XFree86 > software. > > > > > > I'm soliciting ideas for the next meeting, which will be the first > > > > meeting of > > > > > the year with the new crop of WPI students. I hope to have a great > > > > meeting > > > > > planned so that the WPI students will continue to attend, as they > > > > constitute > > > > > a sizeable percentage of the WLUG membership. > > > > > > See ya later, > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > -- > > > Andy Stewart, Founder > > > Worcester Linux Users' Group > > > Worcester, MA USA > > > http://www.wlug.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA USA > http://www.wlug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 20, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Off topic request- Linux Sys Admin and Massachusetts DET

by Mike Clark

Mike, I would be interested as to what questions you have. I am a RHCE and currently work as a Linux/UNIX Sys Admin. Please mail me directly mclark(a)nationaldentex.com At 11:06 PM 8/18/2003 -0400, you wrote: > Off topic request. > >Mass DET(unemployment) will pay for Linux Sys Admin courses but I need to >ask 3 Linux Sys Admin managers several questions. >If anyone could help, I'll can either email the questions or post them here. > >Thanks for the help, >Mike Blake Michael R Clark mclark(a)nationaldentex.com Information Systems ABS/UNIX/LINUX National Dentex Corp. 1-508-358-4422 Ext.205

Aug. 19, 2003

RE: [Wlug] possible meeting topic

by Clint Moyer

Tim Keller gave an excellent presentation on MythTV a few months ago. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Mike Frysinger Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:31 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] possible meeting topic On Monday 18 August 2003 23:18, Matt Higgins wrote: > I don't know if this has been done in the past but what about building a > freevo box? > http://freevo.sourceforge.net could also do it on mythtv ... http://www.mythtv.org/ -mike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 19, 2003