November 2003 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

WLUG Meeting: Thurs Dec 12 7:00 PM

by Andy Stewart

Hi everybody, I wanted to send this meeting announcement out early for a change. :-) Our next WLUG meeting will actually be a joint meeting with WLUG and the Worcester County IEEE Computer Society. We'll hold the meeting in Olin Hall room 107 (we've been there before) since it seats more people. We're anticipating a larger than normal turnout for this meeting due to the showing of the documentary entitled "Revolution OS" (on DVD!). This documentary runs for 1 hour and 25 minutes. No expertise in Linux is required to understand this documentary. Revolution OS tells the inside story of the hackers who rebelled against the proprietary software model and Microsoft to create GNU/Linux and the Open Source movement. This documentary features interviews with Linus Torvalds, Richard Stallman, Bruce Perens, Eric Raymond, Brian Behlendorf, Michael Tiemann, Larry Augustin, Frank Hecker, and Rob Malda. I've just purchased a few items for the raffle which should arrive prior to the meeting date. The items for raffle are: o a copy of the Revolution OS DVD o a Revolution OS tee shirt o a Revolution OS coffee mug o a Revolution OS poster (11"x7") As always, light refreshments will be served at the meeting. After the meeting, we'll adjourn to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer, and all are invited to attend. -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Nov. 26, 2003

Linux System Administration position...

by Andy Stewart

If you are interested in such an opportunity, please send me e-mail and I'll forward the information to you. The job is in Concord, MA. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Nov. 26, 2003

Re: [Wlug] text mailer recommendation?

by Theo Van Dinter

On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 06:39:40PM -0500, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > you are interested in my configuration files, or if there is enough > interest I can post them here... hehe. mutt config files are so plentiful and varied, they could be a topic for a meeting! ;) /me hearts mutt -- Randomly Generated Tagline: f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n cmptr prgmmng.

Nov. 26, 2003

Re: [Wlug] text mailer recommendation?

by Charles R. Anderson

On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 06:03:02PM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Text-based because I work across a WAN when I access home email from > work & vice-versa. Mutt is included with all recent Red Hat distros, and sounds like what you are looking for: http://www.mutt.org/ "Though written from scratch, Mutt's initial interface was based largely on the ELM mail client. To a large extent, Mutt is still very ELM-like in presentation of information in menus (and in fact, ELM users will find it quite painless to switch as the default key bindings are identical). As development progressed, features found in other popular clients such as PINE and MUSH have been added, the result being a hybrid, or "mutt." At present, it most closely resembles the SLRN news client. Mutt was originally written by Michael Elkins but is now developed and maintained by the members of the Mutt development mailing list." > Connection to xemacs & the gnuclient interface. (I wrote a perl > script to do it.) Mutt can probably be interfaced to gnuclient with perl too. You can set your editor to be anything you want. I tend to use GNU Nano, a Pico clone, since that's where I came from. > It would be nice if my address book ported to the replacement > mailer. Should be simple to convert your Pine address book to a Mutt aliases file: http://www.diku.dk/~pink/pine2mutt_aliases.pl > Interface to LDAP address book server. Mutt can do this: http://mailman.efn.org/pipermail/eug-lug/2003-March/001957.html http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/marius/mutt-ldap.pl > Any suggestions about replacements or just building pine myself? Are > there really problems that make it unattractive? The primary driving force behind me switching away from Pine a couple years ago was the discussion of licensing, and how Pine doesn't fit the definitions of Free or Open Source software. As a result, my situation was very similar to yours, and I customized Mutt to be very similar to Pine w.r.t. key bindings, etc. Feel free to E-mail me if you are interested in my configuration files, or if there is enough interest I can post them here... -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Nov. 25, 2003

text mailer recommendation?

by Bill Mills-Curran

I'm a pine user, and I was looking at the release notes for fedora core 1. Pine is not included due to license and "long term maintenance" issues. I've enjoyed using pine for 8 or more years, and I really like it. I'm disappointed that it won't be continued under Red Hat. (I know I could install it myself. Maybe that's the right answer.) Although I'm not enthusiastic about switching mailers, maybe it's time. My needs are pretty basic: Text-based because I work across a WAN when I access home email from work & vice-versa. Connection to xemacs & the gnuclient interface. (I wrote a perl script to do it.) It would be nice if my address book ported to the replacement mailer. Interface to LDAP address book server. Any suggestions about replacements or just building pine myself? Are there really problems that make it unattractive? TIA, Bill

Nov. 25, 2003

Re: [Wlug] upgrading suse 7.2 to 8.1

by doug waud

Hi Gregory Avedissian wrote: > > Doug, > > Thanks for the info and the link (snip, snip) I need to get > the pro version on cd. I have it and you are welcome to borrow it. (Note how this does not have to be done surrepticiously a la MicroSoft ! :-) ). I can always bring them to the next WLUG meeting if that is easiest. Otherwise, perhaps we could meet somewhere. Let me know. (I live in the north end of Shrewsbury.) I do want them back since I still have that version running on my grandkids boxes. doug

Nov. 25, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Digitally signed e-mails

by brad noyes

On Monday 24 November 2003 10:12, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > My question is this: how do I get someone's public key ? > > with kmail/gnupg it *can* be automagic ... otherwise you could just use the > web interfaces keyservers (like the mit one) provide or the cmdline > interface gnupg provides (it's harsh :D) > here's some nice options i use in my ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf file: > keyserver x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu > keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve > keyserver-options verbose > keyserver-options verbose > keyserver-options verbose There is a KDE front end, kgpg, which is a seperate app, but will be part of the kdenetwork module in the kde3.2 release, sometime in february. It handles importing keys from a key server as well as other gpg functions through a GUI. http://devel-home.kde.org/~kgpg/ --brad

Nov. 25, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Digitally signed e-mails

by Theo Van Dinter

On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 09:32:38AM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote: > This is clearly not a topic on which I can speak. I'm soliciting volunteers > who might like to address WLUG on this topic. Any takers for the January > meeting? My knowledge isn't such that I can speak about it at length either, but I have held some key signing "parties" (namely the 2 at LISA 2003) and wouldn't mind organizing one for a WLUG meeting. :) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "My stereo's half fixed," said Tom monotonously.

Nov. 24, 2003

Re: [Wlug] simple debian question

by Chuck Homic

On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 01:48:33PM -0500, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > Where do I put commands that I want executed immediately after bootup? > In suse, I put them in /etc/rc.d/boot.local, but debian has no such > directory or file. I just created a file called /etc/rc.d/local and ran "update-rc.d local defaults 99" (man update-rc.d for details) I don't know if that's "right" or not, but I know it works. > I notice that when I look at the home directory on the other system, the > owner is listed by the user number rather than the name, so what I've > done is to create a user in debian whose name is the same as the suse > number for the same user, so that user owns the suse user's home > directory, then change permissions so all users can read/write that > directory. That's pretty ugly, and I have to change permissions when I > reboot suse. There's gotta be an easier, cleaner way. You're right. You'll want to choose one single uid-to-username mapping and configure both systems to use it. You can change the numbers in /etc/passwd and /etc/group then chown all the user directories like you've just said. (But in this case, you do it just once.) -Chuck

Nov. 24, 2003

Re: [Wlug] simple debian question

by Baris Hasdemir

If I didn't get you wrong, you can edit the /etc/passwd files in both distributions, and set the user ID(UID) and group ID(GID) to same numbers, here is a sample: debian:x:500:100:,,,:/home/penguen:/bin/bash where 500 is the UID and 100 is the GID baris On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 13:48, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > Where do I put commands that I want executed immediately after bootup? > In suse, I put them in /etc/rc.d/boot.local, but debian has no such > directory or file. > > OK, I lied. Here's the real question. I have two linux installations on > the same box (suse 7.2 and debian woody). How do I arrange permissions > so that I can access the user's (my) home directory in the other > installation without rebooting to that other installation? > > I notice that when I look at the home directory on the other system, the > owner is listed by the user number rather than the name, so what I've > done is to create a user in debian whose name is the same as the suse > number for the same user, so that user owns the suse user's home > directory, then change permissions so all users can read/write that > directory. That's pretty ugly, and I have to change permissions when I > reboot suse. There's gotta be an easier, cleaner way. > > Thanks, > > Greg > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Nov. 24, 2003