January 2003 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] Notebooks...

by webmaster＠atari-users.net

Have you considered a Apple iBook or Powerbook? An iBook runs for about $1000 and PB's $2000. Compared to my Dell Laptop for work.. Apple has some nice hardware. I have an iBook 500mhz.. I was shocked how well Yellow Dog Linux ran on it. The speed difference over Mac OS X was very noticable. I also tried Mandrake PPC linux on it, not very impressed with it. Unfortunetly, the 20 gig drive I placed in the iBook fried, so all I have now is Mac OS X. The 10 gigs is too tight for a dual system. I'm having a hard time converting the wife to linux.<G> A buddy down in CT has a Powerbook running Yellow Dog also, only issue is the ATI video is not fully supported yet. just throwing my 2 cents in.. Rob Mahlert

Jan. 6, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Toshiba Laptop?

by doug waud

Wesley Allen wrote: > What's your collective opinion of Toshiba laptops? Circuit City > has got a decent machine (Satellite 1415-s173) for $999 and they actually > let me boot Knoppix on it to check out hardware support (everything > worked). I have an old toshiba satellite ( 2595cdt ) which runs nicely for me on SuSE 7.2. I have had it since 0ct/99. No problems. Have added memory and put in a large hard drive. > The only thing I'm wondering about is the battery. Battery life sucks. Like Andy I seem to get very poor running time. I get an hour or less on battery so, for all practical purposes, I just run it off the AC. > MY HP > laptop doesn't let Linux read the battery info with either apm or acpi, > and I think this is a function of an incredibly bad bios > implementation. The demo models at Circuit City didn't have batteries, > so I had no way of checking this bug out on that brand. Does anyone > have experience with a Toshiba laptop t I ran xapm and got a display which said I had 15% charge so I assume the bios was readable. The 15% probably means little since the computer has been sitting in its case inactive since the last WLUG meeting. doug PS while drafting this email the % came up to 21 so it seems the xapm is working as expected.

Jan. 6, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Notebooks...

by Wes Allen

When I have $1500, that's what I'm getting. I'm saving now! I looked at it the other day, what a cool machine! Wes On Monday 06 January 2003 9:45 am, Chuck Homic wrote: > On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 08:04:00AM +0000, Wesley T Allen wrote: > > My question is, what's known to work with Linux. Are Toshiba's > > friendly? I'm not touching a compaq with a 10 foot pole, and does > > anyone have an HP laptop that is fully functional with linux? What > > about the latest Dells? Or even, gasp GATEWAY???? > > > > I checked out linux on laptops, but most of the models weren't even > > close so I figured I'd ask all of you... > > Weren't close to what, exactly? You mean not close to working with Linux? > > I was looking for a simple machine (ie. more powerful than my desktop > P-200 was my minimum requirement) that would be ultra portable. I was > looking for something uber-small and uber-light that I'd carry around with > me everywhere because it was so uber-small and uber-light. > > I decided on a Fujitsu Lifebook P-2000, and it was the best purchasing > descision of my life. It has a couple of 1337 features: > > * 800MHz Crusoe chip (I mean come on, Linus helped design the chip!) > * 16:9 aspect ratio screen (1280x768), awesome for watching DVDs > * Wikkid 6+ hour battery life, with so-called "normal usage" > * Tiny: 10.5" by 6" by 1" > * Optional integrated 802.11b > * Everything works in Linux except the shatty WinModem > > All of my friends (who don't want a 19" screen on their laptop) drool over > the thing, so I'd highly recommend it if you don't need a number-crunchin' > gaming system. > > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Jan. 6, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Notebooks...

by Chuck Homic

On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 08:04:00AM +0000, Wesley T Allen wrote: > My question is, what's known to work with Linux. Are Toshiba's > friendly? I'm not touching a compaq with a 10 foot pole, and does > anyone have an HP laptop that is fully functional with linux? What > about the latest Dells? Or even, gasp GATEWAY???? > I checked out linux on laptops, but most of the models weren't even > close so I figured I'd ask all of you... Weren't close to what, exactly? You mean not close to working with Linux? I was looking for a simple machine (ie. more powerful than my desktop P-200 was my minimum requirement) that would be ultra portable. I was looking for something uber-small and uber-light that I'd carry around with me everywhere because it was so uber-small and uber-light. I decided on a Fujitsu Lifebook P-2000, and it was the best purchasing descision of my life. It has a couple of 1337 features: * 800MHz Crusoe chip (I mean come on, Linus helped design the chip!) * 16:9 aspect ratio screen (1280x768), awesome for watching DVDs * Wikkid 6+ hour battery life, with so-called "normal usage" * Tiny: 10.5" by 6" by 1" * Optional integrated 802.11b * Everything works in Linux except the shatty WinModem All of my friends (who don't want a 19" screen on their laptop) drool over the thing, so I'd highly recommend it if you don't need a number-crunchin' gaming system. -Chuck

Jan. 6, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Notebooks...

by William Smith

On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 08:04 "Wesley T Allen" <wallen(a)charter.net> wrote: > My question is, what's known to work with Linux. Are Toshiba's > friendly? I'm not touching a compaq with a 10 foot pole, and does > anyone have an HP laptop that is fully functional with linux? What > about the latest Dells? Or even, gasp GATEWAY???? i can't speak for the latest Gateway systems, but i know that my Gateway Solo 9100 works nicely with Linux... i run RH8.0 on it... I've been using Linux on it since I got it, with RH7.2. > I checked out linux on laptops, but most of the models weren't even close so I figured I'd ask all of you... I have found that it is always safer to ask. now... back to searching for Rio utils... ;) William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA www.chezsmith.com

Jan. 6, 2003

Suse Linux: Internet access

by philrmcss＠netscape.net

I recently installed Suse Linux on my Pentium III, 600 mHz computer that had Windows XP installed previously. Linux seems to work OK, except that I can't access my cable modem or dial-up modem from it. If I want to go to the internet, I have to go via windows. I got this machine from my son-in-law, and it has never printed in either windows or Linux. I have "properly" installed my deskjet 932 printer, it looks to be installed ok, but when I try to print, the printer never gets the data that the computer supposedly sends to it. Any help I can get from you folks would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Phil philrmcss(a)netscape.net __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

Jan. 6, 2003

Zaurus or Convert iPAQ?

by Wes Allen

Hi gang, I'm currently wrestling with getting a Zaurus or just going ahead and converting my iPAQ to Linux. What do you guys think? Wes -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Jan. 4, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Notebooks...

by Robert L Krawitz

Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 08:04 From: "Wesley T Allen" <wallen(a)charter.net> My question is, what's known to work with Linux. Are Toshiba's friendly? I'm not touching a compaq with a 10 foot pole, and does anyone have an HP laptop that is fully functional with linux? What about the latest Dells? Or even, gasp GATEWAY???? I have a Dell Inspiron 8000 that works perfectly under Linux. I can suspend and resume it just fine, which impresses a lot of folks since they can't even do that under Windows. The 8200 is the current model; you can find 8000's and 8100's for reasonable money on eBay. It's a big, clunky-looking machine, but the internals are well done, it's very fast, and it has a very nice screen (1400x1050 or 1600x1200; none of this silly 1024x768 on a 15" screen). It can also take two batteries. I'd actually go for an 8000 rather than an 8200 if you want long battery life; the slower processors (mine is 700 MHz) make for much longer battery life. I get 5 hours from a 2700 and 3800 mAH battery; you can buy 4400 mAH batteries now, which should give about 7 hours of battery life. There are lots of other configuration options; you can get a combo DVD/CDRW drive, or two optical drives, if you like. You don't need a docking station, as it has all of the connections on the back panel. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net Project lead for Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton

Jan. 4, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Web site down?

by Frank Sweetser

On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 11:57:42AM -0500, Keller, Tim wrote: > At least from Stratus, I'm not getting any connectivity to www.wlug.org ... > (actually I'm not sure that this email will get there either...) The building that hosts www.wlug.org lost network connectivity for a couple of days due to some unscheduled maintainence on our fiber plant. The mailing list did stay up, though. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu WPI Network Engineer

Jan. 4, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Notebooks...

by Brian J. Conway

> My question is, what's known to work with Linux. Are Toshiba's > friendly? I'm not touching a compaq with a 10 foot pole, and does > anyone have an HP laptop that is fully functional with linux? > What about the latest Dells? Or even, gasp GATEWAY???? I checked > out linux on laptops, but most of the models weren't even close so > I figured I'd ask all of you... I'm a big fan of Dells and have run Linux on a few Inspiron and Latitude models (my current laptop is an Inspiron 8000). Every piece of hardware in it was supported out of the box by Mandrake: ATi video card, Maestro3 sound, EEPro100 onboard ethernet, DVD drive, and winmodem, which is of the Lucent variety, though I never bothered to set it up as I don't have any dial-up accounts. They're a bit more pricey than what you can find in a clearance at a store, but they're very customizable for a laptop (on Dell's web site), and that made it worth it to me. My $0.02. Brian J. Conway bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu "LINUX is obsolete" - Andrew S. Tanenbaum, creator of Minix - Jan 29, 1992

Jan. 4, 2003