January 2003 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

REMINDER: WLUG meeting 15-jan-03

by Andy Stewart

HI everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting to be held on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA. At this meeting, we'll be discussing Linux on handheld devices. Mostly, this meeting will be about actually running Linux on things like the iPAQ, but if anybody is interested, I"ll have my Palm IIIx and jpilot available for a quick demo (more like Linux *with* handhelds). I think Brad and Wes will be bringing iPAQs. Who else is planning on bringing something? I had heard a rumor that somebody in the group had an XBOX running Linux, and if so, that's fair game since it will fit in my hands. :-) Please respond to this e-mail if you are bringing something for this meeting. That info will help to draw interested parties to the meeting and make it a better meeting. Be there - 7:00 PM ! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Jan. 11, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Suse Linux: Internet access

by philrmcss＠netscape.net

Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)attbi.com> wrote: Andy: Good thinking. When I get to rambling, I can really ramble. Thanks for the help. Phil > >Hi Phil, > >Let's break this into two threads so people will have a chance to address each >topic without confusion. > >Secondly, if you could provide more information regarding what you did, what >you expected to happen, and what actually happened (error messages and such >are really helpful), then I'm sure somebody on this list can help get you up >and running smartly. > >Later, > >Andy > >-- >Andy Stewart, Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA USA >http://www.wlug.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

Jan. 8, 2003

RE: [Wlug] Suse Linux: Internet access

by Keller, Tim

Well, If you've got a "winmodem" check a few places like http://www.linmodems.org/ also, google is your friend in this case. If you've got an internal hardware modem, it's been my experience that in order for it to work at all, the port/IRQ settings in your bios have to exactly match the ones postulated in the setserial documentation... /dev/ttys0 (COM1), port 0x3f8, irq 4 /dev/ttys1 (COM2), port 0x2f8, irq 3 /dev/ttys2 (COM3), port 0x3e8, irq 4 /dev/ttys3 (COM4), port 0x2e8, irq 3 As for the broadband, do you have an external broadband modem connected to your machine via ethernet or an onboard broadband adapter? (I'm going on the premise that you've got the former... if you don't you'll have to look around for drivers that'll support the onboard broadband adapter) For your ethernet not working, I'd first check to see that the card was recognized. The best place to start is to see if the drivers been loaded. executing the "lsmod" command (as root) will give you a listing of all the loaded drivers... [root@medusa proc]# lsmod Module Size Used by Not tainted nls_iso8859-1 3488 0 (autoclean) 3c59x 28520 1 ... (this listing could be quite long) You should see something like the 3c59x (if you've got a 3com card) Also, you might want to check the Suse hardware errata to make sure that your cards totally supported. In this day an age, only rather exotic hardware isn't fully supported... Another place to look is /proc/interrupt aka "cat /proc/interrupt" (once again as root) this will give you a listing of all the devices linux sees on the machine. If you don't see your ethernet card listed, you probably have some sort of conflict. I hope this helps... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Robert L Krawitz [mailto:rlk@alum.mit.edu] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:11 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Cc: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Suse Linux: Internet access From: "Aramico" <aramico(a)duahati.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:55:51 +0700 Well, if the modem can work under Linux, the name is not WinModem, It's a kind of Hardware Modem. No, a few manufacturers have provided Linux drivers for their WinModems. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net Project lead for Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 7, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Suse Linux: Internet access

by Robert L Krawitz

From: "Aramico" <aramico(a)duahati.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:55:51 +0700 Well, if the modem can work under Linux, the name is not WinModem, It's a kind of Hardware Modem. No, a few manufacturers have provided Linux drivers for their WinModems. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net Project lead for Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton

Jan. 7, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Suse Linux: Internet access

by Wes Allen

No, it's a "software" modem, it's just that certain software modemns have had their specs open and others have had binary-only drivers released for them... Wes On Tuesday 07 January 2003 1:55 am, Aramico wrote: > Well, if the modem can work under Linux, the name is not WinModem, It's a > kind of Hardware Modem. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Stewart" <andystewart(a)attbi.com> > To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:19 AM > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Suse Linux: Internet access > > > On Monday 06 January 2003 10:47 pm, Aramico wrote: > > > Well, it's a little bit easy to indicate what your modem is ? > > > If your modem is a kind of internal model, it must be a win modem. > > > A win modem is a kind of modem that the mechanism is provided by > > > windows application, it's not workin on linux machine. > > > > Not necessarily true. > > > > > If you got an internal modem with the branded one such as USR Robotics, > > it > > > > is not win modem, it can work on linux platform. > > > Basically, if you found a warning on your modem that your modem need > > > minimum requeirment processor, it means you got a win modem, can not > > work > > > > with Linux. > > > > > > > > > Okay, hope that can clear your problem. > > > > There are a few WinModems that *do* work under Linux, but generally > > speaking, > > > they do not. My laptop has a Conexant chip in it, which does have a > > Linux driver available. > > > > See: > > http://www.mbsi.ca/cnxtlindrv/ > > > > I have not tried to use this software, so I can't say first hand that it > > works. > > > > Later, > > > > Andy > > > > -- > > Andy Stewart, Founder > > Worcester Linux Users' Group > > Worcester, MA USA > > http://www.wlug.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Jan. 7, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Zaurus or Convert iPAQ?

by Wes Allen

OK, THAT is just sick...... I LIKE it! Wes On Monday 06 January 2003 10:12 pm, Andy Stewart wrote: > On Saturday 04 January 2003 3:49 pm, Wes Allen wrote: > > Hi gang, > > I'm currently wrestling with getting a Zaurus or just going ahead and > > converting my iPAQ to Linux. What do you guys think? > > > > Wes > > Buy the Zaurus, convert the iPAQ, and get them to talk to one another via > wireless. Setup VNC servers - amaze your friends! > > :-) -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Jan. 7, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Suse Linux: Internet access

by Aramico

Well, if the modem can work under Linux, the name is not WinModem, It's a kind of Hardware Modem. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Stewart" <andystewart(a)attbi.com> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Suse Linux: Internet access > On Monday 06 January 2003 10:47 pm, Aramico wrote: > > Well, it's a little bit easy to indicate what your modem is ? > > If your modem is a kind of internal model, it must be a win modem. > > A win modem is a kind of modem that the mechanism is provided by windows > > application, it's not workin on linux machine. > > Not necessarily true. > > > > > If you got an internal modem with the branded one such as USR Robotics, it > > is not win modem, it can work on linux platform. > > Basically, if you found a warning on your modem that your modem need > > minimum requeirment processor, it means you got a win modem, can not work > > with Linux. > > > > > > Okay, hope that can clear your problem. > > There are a few WinModems that *do* work under Linux, but generally speaking, > they do not. My laptop has a Conexant chip in it, which does have a Linux > driver available. > > See: > http://www.mbsi.ca/cnxtlindrv/ > > I have not tried to use this software, so I can't say first hand that it > works. > > Later, > > Andy > > -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA USA > http://www.wlug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 7, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Suse Linux: Internet access

by Andy Stewart

On Monday 06 January 2003 10:47 pm, Aramico wrote: > Well, it's a little bit easy to indicate what your modem is ? > If your modem is a kind of internal model, it must be a win modem. > A win modem is a kind of modem that the mechanism is provided by windows > application, it's not workin on linux machine. Not necessarily true. > > If you got an internal modem with the branded one such as USR Robotics, it > is not win modem, it can work on linux platform. > Basically, if you found a warning on your modem that your modem need > minimum requeirment processor, it means you got a win modem, can not work > with Linux. > > > Okay, hope that can clear your problem. There are a few WinModems that *do* work under Linux, but generally speaking, they do not. My laptop has a Conexant chip in it, which does have a Linux driver available. See: http://www.mbsi.ca/cnxtlindrv/ I have not tried to use this software, so I can't say first hand that it works. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Jan. 7, 2003

Upcoming meeting January 15th

by Andy Stewart

Hi Everybody, Our meeting about "Linux and Handhelds" is coming up soon! If you are bringing a handheld device, please send me e-mail so I can post the info on the website and in a subsequent e-mail. If you're bringing some "non-conventional" device running Linux, that's OK too, just let me know so I can tell others. Thanks! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Jan. 7, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Suse Linux: Internet access

by Aramico

Well, it's a little bit easy to indicate what your modem is ? If your modem is a kind of internal model, it must be a win modem. A win modem is a kind of modem that the mechanism is provided by windows application, it's not workin on linux machine. If you got an internal modem with the branded one such as USR Robotics, it is not win modem, it can work on linux platform. Basically, if you found a warning on your modem that your modem need minimum requeirment processor, it means you got a win modem, can not work with Linux. Okay, hope that can clear your problem. ---------------------------------------------------------- Aramico ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Stewart" <andystewart(a)attbi.com> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Suse Linux: Internet access > On Sunday 05 January 2003 10:50 pm, philrmcss(a)netscape.net wrote: > > I recently installed Suse Linux on my Pentium III, 600 mHz computer that > > had Windows XP installed previously. Linux seems to work OK, except that I > > can't access my cable modem or dial-up modem from it. If I want to go to > > the internet, I have to go via windows. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 7, 2003