September 2002 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

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by Charles R. Anderson

Heh...somehow SpamAssassin flagged this as a Viagra spam :) Interesting, since it didn't mention Viagra anywhere... Stop talking dirty Keith! It might be time to get a new ISP, too, since yours is blackholed in an RBL.... ----- Forwarded message from Keith Wright <kwright(a)gis.net> ----- Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: [Wlug] WLUG's membership in BUG X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=5.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,X_AUTH_WARNING,DOUBLE_CAPSWORD,FOR_FREE,VIAGRA, PORN_14,ASCII_FORM_ENTRY,RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM version=2.31 X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Level: ***** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.31 (devel $Id: SpamAssassin.pm,v 1.94.2.2 2002/06/20 17:20:29 hughescr Exp $) X-Spam-Report: 5.5 hits, 5 required; * -3.4 -- Found a In-Reply-To header * -0.7 -- Found a X-Authentication-Warning header * 1.1 -- BODY: A word in all caps repeated on the line * 1.1 -- BODY: No such thing as a free lunch (1) * 4.7 -- BODY: Plugs Viagra * 0.2 -- BODY: Uses words and phrases which indicate porn (14) * 0.5 -- BODY: Contains an ASCII-formatted form * 2.0 -- RBL: Received via a relay in relays.osirusoft.com [RBL check: found 245.48.41.216.relays.osirusoft.com., type: 127.0.0.3] ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Sept. 4, 2002

RH7.3 Questions -round 4

by Richard Goodman

Well, I thought everything was working, but sendmail won't receive mail. 1) Doing a status on sendmail says its running 2) dig says that named is running on that server and returns all proper looking info. 3) I had saved the WORKING access, local-host-names and virtusertable files before replacing the bad hard drive and had copied them back into /etc/mail and done a make, so I assume they're good 4) I just restarted the mail server, which logged the following: Sep 3 19:03:39 boron sendmail[2674]: alias database /etc/aliases rebuilt by root Sep 3 19:03:39 boron sendmail[2674]: /etc/aliases: 40 aliases, longest 10 bytes, 395 bytes total Sep 3 19:03:40 boron sendmail[2687]: starting daemon (8.11.6): SMTP+queueing@01:00:00 The test mailing has the following entries in the SENDING sendmail log, and NO entries in the receiving sendmail log or firewall log: Sep 3 17:12:40 bach sendmail[11154]: g83LCec11154: from=<dick(a)goodman1.net>, size=385, class=0, nrc pts=1, msgid=<4.2.0.58.20020903171330.00a3f418(a)pop.goodman1.net>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=hos t3.goodman1.net [192.168.1.3] Sep 3 17:12:41 bach sendmail[11156]: g83LCec11154: to=<r.goodman(a)11harvard.com>, ctladdr=<dick@good man1.net> (503/503), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=30385, relay=11harvard.com. [66.92.78.250], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by 11harvard.com. and the following on a retry Sep 3 18:23:52 bach sendmail[11217]: g83LCec11154: to=<r.goodman(a)11harvard.com>, ctladdr=<dick@good man1.net> (503/503), delay=01:11:12, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=210385, relay=11harvard.com. [66.92.78.250], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by 11harvard.com. I have three similar servers (the other two still RH7.0) and I have never touched the sendmail config - only the access, local-host-names and virtusertable files on any of them. Has something changed between the versions of sendmail on RH7.0 and RH7.3 or have I missed something. The lack of any message on the receiving server puzzles me. Or has something changed in named relating to mail? Dick

Sept. 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] WLUG's membership in BUG

by Keith Wright

Andy> From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)attbi.com> Andy> Andy> Last year around this time, an organization was formed Andy> called the Boston User Groups Andy> Andy> Our yearly membership dues are being requested by BUG. Andy> Andy> Take a look at the BUG webpage... I wonder how many did that, nobody has praised it here. Andy> My initial question was to wonder about what tangible Andy> benefit WLUG received for its $50 expenditure. Andy> Andy> a) BUG has a link to the WLUG website on its website For $5 I will put a link on my website. Does anybody check the BugSite regularly? I found it rather unpleasant, with font too small and javascript to open a new window when you tried to link to one of the member groups. Andy> b) WLUG had a table at last year's MegaMeeting and Andy> gave out literature advertising the group, its Andy> meetings, etc. What would it take to get a table at this meeting? The strongest argument I can think of for sending in the $50 to give a new group a second chance. That is, send the money, go again to the meeting, try again to get on their calendar, but let them know we are unhappy. If we are not going to the only meeting they have in a year, then what is the purpose of sending them money so we can ignore each other for another year? Andy> c) I met some leaders of other regional user groups Andy> while eating free pizza, drinking free soda, and Andy> touring the US DataCenters facility in Marlboro, MA. Fifty bucks is a lot of money for free pizza, especially if someone else eats it. Does the dues money get anyone into the MegaMeeting free? Andy> My question to WLUG is: Andy> Andy> Do we as a group wish to continue our participation in Andy> BUG for $50/year ? Clint> From: "Clint Moyer" <cdmoyer(a)charter.net> Clint> Clint> If some people feel somewhat bruised by a tangential Clint> connection to MS, well that's kind of sad. The question is not whether some of the User Groups are connected to MS, but whether any of them are connected to Worcester or Linux. jkinz> From: jkinz(a)rcn.com jkinz> jkinz> My 0.02: Spend the $50. It helps give your jkinz> organization visibility and a professional cachet. But how much visibility do we get? A link on a web page is not the cover of the Rolling Stone. As for professional cachet, that is an expensive cologne that I only wear when I am getting paid. jkinz> But I don't get a vote since I'm not a member. At jkinz> least I don't think I'm a member. jkinz> jkinz> How do you officially join up ? I don't know either. I don't think there is an official membership list. Maybe voting on this topic should be confined to people who can say that (the dollars put in the collection box minus the soda cans emptied at the meetings) is positive. From: "Brian J. Conway" <bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu> Brian> Brian> I vote no. We received no real benefits from our Brian> original 50 dollars spent, they won't list our events Brian> on their calendar, and their user group links don't Brian> even work through a text browser. That 50 bucks Brian> would be much better spent elsewhere (beer and Brian> pizza??). Brian> Perhaps people should just address their votes to Brian> Andy and not the list? A vote with no discussion of the issue is a meaningless ritual. We don't even have an official list of voting members. I think the discussion is more important than the outcome. GM> From: "George Metz" <wolfstar(a)shadownet.wox.org> GM> GM> I'm not a member, but I DID work at RCN during that GM> MegaMeeting. GM> GM> Boston User Groups was started as a corporate-sponsored GM> way to get US Datacenters into the User Group scene, as GM> it were. I don't know what a US Datacenter is, but that doesn't sound like it means they were started to help us. GM> Incidentally, US Datacenters is no longer in that GM> building, IIRC. This years MegaMeeting is not in the same place as last year, I think. GM> Of course, I MIGHT be biased by the fact that they took GM> over the building I worked at for a meeting that they GM> didn't clear with (or notify) any of the other companies GM> OR the management in the building. That doesn't sound very professional. Andy> Unless I hear otherwise, my plan is to inform Rick of Andy> our departure from BUG within the next few days. I Andy> currently have no plans to have a WLUG presence at the Andy> MegaMeeting, but I'm open to hearing different Andy> opinions (if any). Well I suppose it would be polite to let him know that the check may not be in the mail. But since membership seems to have no effect at all, except they put a semi-broken link from their website to ours, there is no hurry to quit either. I checked the web pages cited in Rick's message, mostly to check that the link was valid after I re-edited back to Ascii... Dvorak> John C. Dvorak raves on: Dvorak> Dvorak> The industry has recently stagnated as market Dvorak> penetration has stopped dead, How is this possible with all the great deals on Viagra that come through the Internet every day!? He goes on to taunt the marketing departments of several very large corporations for failing to throw money at "users groups". He may be right, although he gets paid the same for being wrong. In either case it's not my problem. WPI gives us a place to meet, and an internet connection. (do I have that right?) This is just the support we need. I am glad we have no corporate sponsor sending marketing droids to hijack our meetings. Rich's repeated references to "aggressive promotion" and "increased visibility" also leave me cold. If I had just spent $3000 to rent a room for the evening I might care about that, but I wasn't that stupid. I also checked the web page for the MegaMeeting, although I did not expect I would want to drive all the way into Boston for it. When I saw that it was to be in Framingham, I changed my mind and thought it might be worth dropping in to see what's happening. Then I saw they are charging ten dollars admission. In that case, I want to know what's happening before I blow my weeks allowance. I could see Spiderman for that! The main attraction is Bob Davis, former CEO of Lycos and Terra Lycos, and currently a venture partner at Highland Capital Partners, will present Street Smart Lessons from the Front Lines of Business.  Bob will also be available following the presentation for a book signing of Speed Is Life Or in other words, unemployed yet suspiciously rich guy in suit, who thinks he's a technology guru even though he could not write the device driver for a lightbulb, promotes himself, his book, and his plan for YOU to get RICH using the revolutionary power of Positive Thinking^W^W The Internet^W^W buying his advice. The more I see, the less I feel I have in common with these people. Maybe we would have more fun joining with the Northampton Homebrew Beer Filter Users Group. I have squelched the HTML which adds nothing much to the text. BUG> ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > BUG> Subject: An update to all user group leaders... BUG> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:18:34 -0400 BUG> From: Rick Zach <rzach(a)bostonusergroups.com> BUG> To: members(a)bostonusergroups.com > BUG> Our annual user group MegaMeeting-III is near! Wed, Sept-25 > BUG> Sheraton Tara in Framingham, MA BUG> Wednesday, September 25 from 6:30 - 9:30 PM BUG> http://www.BostonUserGroups.com/MegaMeeting > > BUG> To all user group leaders: > BUG> Boston User Groups is now almost one year old (at least BUG> as a true non-profit corporate entity) and BUG> MegaMeeting-III is just around the corner. Our value BUG> proposition TO you and our expectations OF you as a BUG> user group leader are quite simple: > > BUG> Boston User Groups' value proposition TO you: BUG> * Greatly increase your user group's visibility to the public BUG> * Help promote, increase and cross pollinate your user group BUG> membership with other groups BUG> * Assist to provide speakers via BUG web site awareness BUG> * Provide an annual MegaMeeting for face-to-face BUG> networking and exposure > > BUG> Boston User Groups expectation OF you as a user group leader BUG> * Greatly increase your User Group's visibility to the public BUG> by promoting BUG and it's other user groups BUG> * Have a link on your home page or other readily visible BUG> location on your web site back to BUG (again to increase BUG> mutual awareness) BUG> * Promote the MegaMeeting to your group to increase our BUG> mutual awareness > > BUG> As you can see, even BUG's expectations OF you are BUG> solely to help promote all user groups which certainly BUG> includes you. I would like to leave you with two BUG> thoughts and a "call to action": > BUG> 1) Like your own user group, Boston User Groups is BUG> mostly funded by out-of-pocket personal donations of BUG> it's User Group leadership. In the case of BUG> MegaMeeting-III, we could not locate a free facility of BUG> adequate size and location so certain people fronted BUG> about $3,000 for room rental in the expectation of BUG> re-covering the costs by renewed BUG/UG leader BUG> memberships, door admission and a few corporate BUG> sponsorships. We are VERY non-profit. > BUG> 2) I ask you to please help to aggressively promote the BUG> upcoming MegaMeeting and BUG. In the process, you will BUG> be promoting your own group! > > BUG> MegaMeeting-III Chairperson Brad Dinerman will be BUG> following up with a "call to action" email with BUG> specifics on up-front cash costs to you (none) and how BUG> to help promote the MegaMeeting and your own group! > BUG> Please look for Brad's email coming soon. > > BUG> And finally: > BUG> Please note a recent article by John C. Dvorak on the death of BUG> User Groups and the few glimmers of light out there. As a BUG> united group of groups, we may be one of those few glimmers. BUG> Please help us to help each other! > BUG> The URL is BUG> http://www.pcmag.com/print_article/0,3048,a=29639,00.asp > > BUG> ______________________________________ BUG> Rick Zach, President BUG> Boston User Groups, Inc. BUG> cel: 508-395-8730 > BUG> http://www.bostonusergroups.com/Benefactors/

Sept. 3, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Attorney asks son for advice on breaking DMCA

by Keller, Tim

I second that instinct. I've run across a couple of CD's that my wife's sony stereo wouldn't play, but I could rip with cdparanoia and then created a "real" redbook CD that worked fine. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Homic [mailto:chuck@vvisions.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 17:14 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Attorney asks son for advice on breaking DMCA On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 05:01:47PM -0400, Brian J. Conway wrote: > Now that I have your attention (almost), my Dad recently bought one of the > so-called copy-protected audio CDs and he is unable to rip it. ... > Any ideas? My first instinct is to load up cdparanoia and see what it says. Judging from the mass media interpretation of the copy prevention scheme... ie. "Invalid data track crashes windows" part of me thinks it would just work, since at no point would you be automounting an invalid ISO filesystem. On the other hand, it might be an invalid TOC, which means you might have to send cdparanoia some options. But if the CD works in a CD player, the TOC must be valid "enough" to point to redbook data that can be ripped. -Chuck _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Attorney asks son for advice on breaking DMCA

by Chuck Homic

On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 05:01:47PM -0400, Brian J. Conway wrote: > Now that I have your attention (almost), my Dad recently bought one of the > so-called copy-protected audio CDs and he is unable to rip it. ... > Any ideas? My first instinct is to load up cdparanoia and see what it says. Judging from the mass media interpretation of the copy prevention scheme... ie. "Invalid data track crashes windows" part of me thinks it would just work, since at no point would you be automounting an invalid ISO filesystem. On the other hand, it might be an invalid TOC, which means you might have to send cdparanoia some options. But if the CD works in a CD player, the TOC must be valid "enough" to point to redbook data that can be ripped. -Chuck

Sept. 3, 2002

Attorney asks son for advice on breaking DMCA

by Brian J. Conway

Now that I have your attention (almost), my Dad recently bought one of the so-called copy-protected audio CDs and he is unable to rip it. As he regularly uses both a Rio while running and has a Rio receiver hooked up to the downstairs stereo, that's a real pain. I haven't looked at the CD myself yet so I don't know if I can use the Sharpie-over-the-corrupt-data-track trick, but has anyone else run into this and come up with a good solution? There's been a million Slashdot stories on the problem with no real resolution that I can find. I figured there would be an answer on this side of the pond if nothing else, but a Windows workaround would work too. Any ideas? My suggestion was, of course, to return the CD and write a nasty letter to the company about selling something labeled as a Compact Disc that does not conform to the Red Book standard, but that doesn't really fix the problem. Thanks in advance. Brian J. Conway bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu "Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves." - Albert Einstein

Sept. 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] laser printer?

by Charles R. Anderson

On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 04:18:23PM -0400, stoffel(a)lucent.com wrote: stoffel> I've got a Laserjet 4M that I picked up used and it works great. stoffel> Haven't had to do a thing to it except feed paper. I got it from a stoffel> used computer dealer in Littleton, MA who is on Rt 2A (exit 31 off Rt stoffel> 495, take 2A East, he's through the light, on the left about a mile stoffel> down). I wholeheartedly agree. HP 4's with the JetDirect card in them are your best bet. It doesn't need to be PostScript--you can use ghostscript on your Linux box and print HPGL to the printer over port 9100. WPI uses mainly HP's in this manner. I recommend ifhp as the print filter, since it natively supports port 9100 printing and has some other neat features (like displaying the username of the person printing on the LED panel of the printer). -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Sept. 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] laser printer?

by stoffel＠lucent.com

Bill> I'm considering getting a laser printer (I'm tired of buying all Bill> those ink jet cartidges that my kids burn through), and I'm Bill> interested in recommendataions for low-cost models. (I'm Bill> running RedHat 7.2.) Bill> HP has a model (LaserJet 1000) for $250 retail. It has a USB Bill> connection that the HP web page says is for "window only". Bill> ("Non-Windows based operating systems will not be supported.") My first suggestion is to get a printer that goes directly on the Network, which will save you no end of grief when you want to print to it. I've got a Laserjet 4M that I picked up used and it works great. Haven't had to do a thing to it except feed paper. I got it from a used computer dealer in Littleton, MA who is on Rt 2A (exit 31 off Rt 495, take 2A East, he's through the light, on the left about a mile down). If you do this, Linux and your PCs shouldn't have any problems talking to it. John John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies stoffel(a)lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-399-0479

Sept. 3, 2002

laser printer?

by Bill Mills-Curran

I'm considering getting a laser printer (I'm tired of buying all those ink jet cartidges that my kids burn through), and I'm interested in recommendataions for low-cost models. (I'm running RedHat 7.2.) HP has a model (LaserJet 1000) for $250 retail. It has a USB connection that the HP web page says is for "window only". ("Non-Windows based operating systems will not be supported.") Any suggestions? TIA, Bill

Sept. 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] RH7.3 Questions -round 3 (success)

by Richard Goodman

The modprobe did the trick - firewall (with a couple minor messages) and masquerading came right up. Then it took over an hour playing with the firewall which no longer allowed DHCP handshaking to occur (probably behaving right now, was acting wrong under RH7.0) so that I could access mail on this laptop (all the desktops have static IPs) I do plan to switch to IPtables, but I wanted the luxury of learning it first. Thanks to all, especially Charles-- I'm 99% up and definitely functioning again. Dick At 10:43 AM 9/3/2002 -0400, you wrote: >On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 10:32:08AM -0400, Richard Goodman wrote: >dick> One unresolved issue - when I issue an IPChains command, the first >time I >dick> get "IPchains incompatible with this kernel" and thereafter "IPChains >dick> protocol not available". The IPChains command is there, as for example >dick> "ipchains -h" works. But I haven't got masquerading or firewalling yet >dick> because of this. > >I've seen this before. The /etc/rc.d/init.d/ipchains script manually >modprobe's the ipchains module. If you aren't using that script, then >you need to do it yourself: > >/sbin/modprobe ipchains > >-- >Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ >PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 >Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Richard Goodman dick(a)goodman1.net

Sept. 3, 2002