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Re: [Wlug] Zaurus SL-5500

by brad

On Thursday 12 September 2002 08:57 pm, Wesley Allen wrote: > John, > I know they just solved this issue with a new version of qtopia > desktop, Linux should sync fine now. Why they didn't do this from the > get go, who knows? Good question. Syncing on the Ipaq has always worked, but syncing on zuarus with linux is a new addition. > Anyone with iPAQ running linux, how do you sync with Linux? I have actually never tried to sync with my ipaq (i mostly use FreeBSD as my workstation, and QT's sync software doesn't run on FreeBSD). There has been some work on getting sync framework in place for KDE called KitchenSync. I don't know where this project stands (it is scheduled to be in 3.1 release, but i don't know how realistic that is). --brad

Sept. 13, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Converting an iPAQ

by Wesley Allen

thanks, got the source rpm, FUN! Wes On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 20:59, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 08:55:23PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: > wallen> Nope, even did a urpmi xbill and nothing. > > I was surprised to find this (Google): > > http://www.xbill.org/ > > -- > Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ > PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 > Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > --

Sept. 13, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Converting an iPAQ

by Charles R. Anderson

On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 08:55:23PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: wallen> Nope, even did a urpmi xbill and nothing. I was surprised to find this (Google): http://www.xbill.org/ -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Sept. 13, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Zaurus SL-5500

by Wesley Allen

John, I know they just solved this issue with a new version of qtopia desktop, Linux should sync fine now. Why they didn't do this from the get go, who knows? Anyone with iPAQ running linux, how do you sync with Linux? wes On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 19:31, jfmurphy wrote: > On Thursday 12 September 2002 13:31, Wesley Allen wrote: > > For the last few months I've been hoping to save up some money and > > get a Zaurus, I don't think that it's going to happen any time > > soon. So, I've got an iPAQ that I can't sync, or even connect, > > with my linux laptop and it's beginning to get on my nerves. So, > > even though I've got some software on my iPAQ that I'll miss (a > > Bible Reader with the Greek Text and SimCity 2000), I'm thinking > > that it's time to take the plunge and get Linux and Qtopia on my > > 3835. > > Funny for the past day I've been looking into the Zaurus SL-5500. > Looked on Cnet price comparison to check prices. Three or four prices > between $330 and $350. From the Windows OS side they look great. > >From the Linux desktop side there seems to be a problem getting them > to sync. No software for the Linux user to get them working provided > with the Zaurus. I use Suse, is anyone using a Zaurus on the Linux > desktop side? You would think there wouldn't be an issue with Linux. > > John > > -- > "Two roads diverged in a wood, and I -- I took the one less traveled > by, And that has made all the difference." -- Robert Frost > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > --

Sept. 13, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Converting an iPAQ

by Wesley Allen

On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 16:29, maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu wrote: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 03:05:08PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: > > On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 14:41, maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 01:31:27PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: > > > > For the last few months I've been hoping to save up some money and get a > > > > Zaurus, I don't think that it's going to happen any time soon. So, I've > > > > got an iPAQ that I can't sync, or even connect, with my linux laptop and > > > > it's beginning to get on my nerves. So, even though I've got some > > > > software on my iPAQ that I'll miss (a Bible Reader with the Greek Text > > > > and SimCity 2000), I'm thinking that it's time to take the plunge and > > > > get Linux and Qtopia on my 3835. > > > I would recommend OPIE over Qtopia. Its the fork of Qtopia. It seems to > > > making very good process. Qtopia has been quiet lately. (lately - meaning > > > the last 6 months or so) > > > > > > Bible Reader - i'm not sure there is an alternate app for that, yet > > > SimCity 2000 - There's always xbill! Nope, even did a urpmi xbill and nothing. > > > > I know of an alternative app for a BibleReader, it's the modules I'll > > miss. What's xbill? > xbill is a game that has come with every linux disto that i've tried. > It's kind of a classic linux game. > Try typing 'xbill' in a shell (while in X), and take a look > > > > > Three Questions, > > > > 1. Has anyone on the list done this, especially with this model? > > > i haven't. Mine is a 36xx. But i have gone through the install before. > > > > I know the process is the same, so... > > > > > > > > > 2. Has anyone who has done this used any of theKompany's embedded apps? > > > i have not used theKompany's apps. Which ones were you thinking of > > > using? > > > > Their ogg player for one, and a couple of other things that Shawn Gordon > > says SHOULD run on an iPAQ. I want tKc to stay in business, so I don't > > mind paying some money, for stuff like that. I like their Calendar > > better than Qtopia's or Opie's for example. Though Opie's got the > > "today" screen, great touch! Will qtopia apps run in Opie, how "forked" > > is it? > > ahhh, i see. I would like to see theKompany to stay in business as well. > Good point. > > There are a couple of calendar programs, > - theKompany's (never seen/used it) > - OPIE's and Qtopia's (believe they are pretty simaler) > - korganizer (it was ported to QTe, it has the same code base as > korganizer for KDE So they both look very similar, one is just > smaller than the other). > > Yeah, the ogg player would be nice. > > One of OPIE's goals is to be binary compatable with Qtopia, as well as > the sharp zaurus. So you should be able to run any on either Qtopia, or > OPIE the apps. > > > > > 3. Is there anyone willing to help me do this face to face? I could do > > > > this on my own, but the idea of potentially owning a $599 paperweight > > > > dims my enthusiasm when I think of going it alone. (I'll buy the > > > > coffee) > > > Perhaps, i don't know if i can make it to the next meeting or not. I > > > will be in boston that day. It's hard to say at this point whether i > > > can be back in time. > > > > Actually, I was thinking of just setting up shop in a local coffee house > > with laptop, iPAQ, and mug. How long does the install take? It might > > I'm a tea drinker ;) ... I don't remember how long it takes exacly. It > takes a few minutes to transfer all that data through a serial port. > Also i seem to remember that i took a while to make a backup image of > WinCE (16Mb of files for me, probably 32Mb of files for you). > > > > make a good meeting topic though, an "embedded linux installfest!" > > (Imagine trying THAT outside a bestbuy! > heh, intersting idea. > > -brad > > WARNING: this was not checked for spelling errors. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > --

Sept. 13, 2002

Zaurus SL-5500

by jfmurphy

On Thursday 12 September 2002 13:31, Wesley Allen wrote: > For the last few months I've been hoping to save up some money and > get a Zaurus, I don't think that it's going to happen any time > soon. So, I've got an iPAQ that I can't sync, or even connect, > with my linux laptop and it's beginning to get on my nerves. So, > even though I've got some software on my iPAQ that I'll miss (a > Bible Reader with the Greek Text and SimCity 2000), I'm thinking > that it's time to take the plunge and get Linux and Qtopia on my > 3835. Funny for the past day I've been looking into the Zaurus SL-5500. Looked on Cnet price comparison to check prices. Three or four prices between $330 and $350. From the Windows OS side they look great. >From the Linux desktop side there seems to be a problem getting them to sync. No software for the Linux user to get them working provided with the Zaurus. I use Suse, is anyone using a Zaurus on the Linux desktop side? You would think there wouldn't be an issue with Linux. John -- "Two roads diverged in a wood, and I -- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference." -- Robert Frost

Sept. 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Converting an iPAQ

by maitre＠ccs.neu.edu

On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 03:05:08PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: > On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 14:41, maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 01:31:27PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: > > > For the last few months I've been hoping to save up some money and get a > > > Zaurus, I don't think that it's going to happen any time soon. So, I've > > > got an iPAQ that I can't sync, or even connect, with my linux laptop and > > > it's beginning to get on my nerves. So, even though I've got some > > > software on my iPAQ that I'll miss (a Bible Reader with the Greek Text > > > and SimCity 2000), I'm thinking that it's time to take the plunge and > > > get Linux and Qtopia on my 3835. > > I would recommend OPIE over Qtopia. Its the fork of Qtopia. It seems to > > making very good process. Qtopia has been quiet lately. (lately - meaning > > the last 6 months or so) > > > > Bible Reader - i'm not sure there is an alternate app for that, yet > > SimCity 2000 - There's always xbill! > > I know of an alternative app for a BibleReader, it's the modules I'll > miss. What's xbill? xbill is a game that has come with every linux disto that i've tried. It's kind of a classic linux game. Try typing 'xbill' in a shell (while in X), and take a look > > > Three Questions, > > > 1. Has anyone on the list done this, especially with this model? > > i haven't. Mine is a 36xx. But i have gone through the install before. > > I know the process is the same, so... > > > > > > 2. Has anyone who has done this used any of theKompany's embedded apps? > > i have not used theKompany's apps. Which ones were you thinking of > > using? > > Their ogg player for one, and a couple of other things that Shawn Gordon > says SHOULD run on an iPAQ. I want tKc to stay in business, so I don't > mind paying some money, for stuff like that. I like their Calendar > better than Qtopia's or Opie's for example. Though Opie's got the > "today" screen, great touch! Will qtopia apps run in Opie, how "forked" > is it? ahhh, i see. I would like to see theKompany to stay in business as well. Good point. There are a couple of calendar programs, - theKompany's (never seen/used it) - OPIE's and Qtopia's (believe they are pretty simaler) - korganizer (it was ported to QTe, it has the same code base as korganizer for KDE So they both look very similar, one is just smaller than the other). Yeah, the ogg player would be nice. One of OPIE's goals is to be binary compatable with Qtopia, as well as the sharp zaurus. So you should be able to run any on either Qtopia, or OPIE the apps. > > > 3. Is there anyone willing to help me do this face to face? I could do > > > this on my own, but the idea of potentially owning a $599 paperweight > > > dims my enthusiasm when I think of going it alone. (I'll buy the > > > coffee) > > Perhaps, i don't know if i can make it to the next meeting or not. I > > will be in boston that day. It's hard to say at this point whether i > > can be back in time. > > Actually, I was thinking of just setting up shop in a local coffee house > with laptop, iPAQ, and mug. How long does the install take? It might I'm a tea drinker ;) ... I don't remember how long it takes exacly. It takes a few minutes to transfer all that data through a serial port. Also i seem to remember that i took a while to make a backup image of WinCE (16Mb of files for me, probably 32Mb of files for you). > make a good meeting topic though, an "embedded linux installfest!" > (Imagine trying THAT outside a bestbuy! heh, intersting idea. -brad WARNING: this was not checked for spelling errors.

Sept. 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Converting an iPAQ

by Wesley Allen

On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 14:41, maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu wrote: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 01:31:27PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: > > For the last few months I've been hoping to save up some money and get a > > Zaurus, I don't think that it's going to happen any time soon. So, I've > > got an iPAQ that I can't sync, or even connect, with my linux laptop and > > it's beginning to get on my nerves. So, even though I've got some > > software on my iPAQ that I'll miss (a Bible Reader with the Greek Text > > and SimCity 2000), I'm thinking that it's time to take the plunge and > > get Linux and Qtopia on my 3835. > I would recommend OPIE over Qtopia. Its the fork of Qtopia. It seems to > making very good process. Qtopia has been quiet lately. (lately - meaning > the last 6 months or so) > > Bible Reader - i'm not sure there is an alternate app for that, yet > SimCity 2000 - There's always xbill! I know of an alternative app for a BibleReader, it's the modules I'll miss. What's xbill? > > > > Three Questions, > > 1. Has anyone on the list done this, especially with this model? > i haven't. Mine is a 36xx. But i have gone through the install before. I know the process is the same, so... > > > 2. Has anyone who has done this used any of theKompany's embedded apps? > i have not used theKompany's apps. Which ones were you thinking of > using? Their ogg player for one, and a couple of other things that Shawn Gordon says SHOULD run on an iPAQ. I want tKc to stay in business, so I don't mind paying some money, for stuff like that. I like their Calendar better than Qtopia's or Opie's for example. Though Opie's got the "today" screen, great touch! Will qtopia apps run in Opie, how "forked" is it? > > > 3. Is there anyone willing to help me do this face to face? I could do > > this on my own, but the idea of potentially owning a $599 paperweight > > dims my enthusiasm when I think of going it alone. (I'll buy the > > coffee) > Perhaps, i don't know if i can make it to the next meeting or not. I > will be in boston that day. It's hard to say at this point whether i > can be back in time. Actually, I was thinking of just setting up shop in a local coffee house with laptop, iPAQ, and mug. How long does the install take? It might make a good meeting topic though, an "embedded linux installfest!" (Imagine trying THAT outside a bestbuy! Wes > > Are there other people that want to try this? Or watch this? > > --brad > > WARNING: This email has not been spell checked. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > --

Sept. 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Converting an iPAQ

by maitre＠ccs.neu.edu

On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 01:31:27PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: > For the last few months I've been hoping to save up some money and get a > Zaurus, I don't think that it's going to happen any time soon. So, I've > got an iPAQ that I can't sync, or even connect, with my linux laptop and > it's beginning to get on my nerves. So, even though I've got some > software on my iPAQ that I'll miss (a Bible Reader with the Greek Text > and SimCity 2000), I'm thinking that it's time to take the plunge and > get Linux and Qtopia on my 3835. I would recommend OPIE over Qtopia. Its the fork of Qtopia. It seems to making very good process. Qtopia has been quiet lately. (lately - meaning the last 6 months or so) Bible Reader - i'm not sure there is an alternate app for that, yet SimCity 2000 - There's always xbill! > > Three Questions, > 1. Has anyone on the list done this, especially with this model? i haven't. Mine is a 36xx. But i have gone through the install before. > 2. Has anyone who has done this used any of theKompany's embedded apps? i have not used theKompany's apps. Which ones were you thinking of using? > 3. Is there anyone willing to help me do this face to face? I could do > this on my own, but the idea of potentially owning a $599 paperweight > dims my enthusiasm when I think of going it alone. (I'll buy the > coffee) Perhaps, i don't know if i can make it to the next meeting or not. I will be in boston that day. It's hard to say at this point whether i can be back in time. Are there other people that want to try this? Or watch this? --brad WARNING: This email has not been spell checked.

Sept. 12, 2002

Converting an iPAQ

by Wesley Allen

For the last few months I've been hoping to save up some money and get a Zaurus, I don't think that it's going to happen any time soon. So, I've got an iPAQ that I can't sync, or even connect, with my linux laptop and it's beginning to get on my nerves. So, even though I've got some software on my iPAQ that I'll miss (a Bible Reader with the Greek Text and SimCity 2000), I'm thinking that it's time to take the plunge and get Linux and Qtopia on my 3835. Three Questions, 1. Has anyone on the list done this, especially with this model? 2. Has anyone who has done this used any of theKompany's embedded apps? 3. Is there anyone willing to help me do this face to face? I could do this on my own, but the idea of potentially owning a $599 paperweight dims my enthusiasm when I think of going it alone. (I'll buy the coffee) I've got a serial adapter, so that's not a problem. So, what do you say, anyone out there willing to teach me something new? Wes --

Sept. 12, 2002